This was a weird one

[alpha]

Just had another one on the same day.I was trying to get on here to read up on something.But aol wouldnt let me on.So I watched out cold.Really funny movie btw.I only made it to about half of it and started feeling sleepy.So I got a blanket and pillow and went off to sleep on the couch.I felt my legs slip off and upper body started to go.Till I was dangling there by my head.it didnt hurt just felt kinda uncomfortable.I guess it finally came lose and I felt myself spin around.Very disorientating.Almost like I was laying on a merry-go round and someone spun me.I found myself in my kitchen.And I walked over to look out the window.My legs felt really weird,like I had these huge calf muscles.When I looked out the window it just didnt make much sense to me.It wasnt what was suppose to be there.I could see some guys car on jackstands.And there was what appeared to be a motel by my house,where there was suppose to be my garage and a few others.This must of been the alice in wonderland affect.I decided I wanted to go back to my body.All I had to do was think about it and I was already there.But I couldnt move.So I did what I read.Tried to move one finger.One of my hands was on my head and I started to feel it moving against the side of my head.It didnt happen right away but eventually I could move my arms again and so on.This felt kind of disturbing to me that I couldnt move.I dont know whats going on seems im on autopilot evertime I fall asleep now.And it just happens.Will this have a bad affect on me or anything?Ive been giving myself messages when in trance Like robert bruce says.And I guess they worked.What if I were to project every night like this?Should I look into some kind of protection?Is there something simple I could maybe do before I go to sleep?

[PeacefulWarrior]

I wouldn't worry about it...just keep informing yourself by reading and studying.  It sounds like you are projecting and then going quickly into the "mental planes" in which your subconscious mind is creating your enviornment.  I am sure you are also in the real time zone for a while and with practice you will begin to discover more and more and eventually will gain a lot more control over your OBE/dream state, etc.  Very exciting!  COngrats, you are obviously naturally predisposed to expereince this phenomena....

-DAN

fides quaerens intellectum

[alpha]

Yah its funny how I was so skeptic in the beginning.But I did it anways.I knew that meditation would eventually help me out with  my anxiety.So I didnt mind spending extra time in trance.I dont know if Im a natural.Sometimes I go to bed and spend the whole night meditating,till the sun comes  up eventually.I think that has to do somethin with how im just finding myself out now.Im gettin astral dynamics next week.I cant wait.Theres been some strange things that happened in the past 2 days.But I think it could be  just be my imagination growing..Im posting it in the pychic defence forum.Have a look if you like.I think Im still afraid to do it from a waking state.To me it doesnt seem that natural.And Robert is able to do it so easily.Ive had  some crazy vibrations pounding through my head and body before.I know robert says that the vibes dont hurt you but they sure feel like they are.Im sticking with this way till some more of my fears go away.Or I might not do it that way at all.We,ll see!Maybe Ill change my mind when I read more of his book.

[alpha]

hey I made it in the real time zone again yesterday.This time it looked even realer than ever.But it didnt last to long.Most likely because I wasnt really that tired.It was like a very breif nap.I tried to get out my window.But I couldnt I kinda dropped down and hit my head on the radiator lol.I noticed something when im almost falling asleep I start to sway.Almost like im on a swing.Its like a very gentle swaying.And another reason maybe why I can do this.Ive never been a good sleeper.Always had a hard time falling asleep.Its like I dont go right into that deep sleep like most people.I remeber times when id be sleeping but I felt as if I was awake the whole time.Even if Im dead tired i wont fall asleep right away.I always was jelous of people who could fall asleep so easily.But now I take that back.Im going to try that card trick to freak out my girlfriend.She says she believes me about this.But I dont know because I wouldnt believe it,if I told myself.

[Tisha]

Sometimes just knowing that you are NOT crazy, that this OBE thing is real, is enough to clear up anxiety or other psychiatric issues.  Heaven knows that when I used to project without knowing I was projecting . . . eek that was stressful.

The point now is to find peace with yourself and the world . . . you are truly special and probably have many more OBEs ahead of you.  So get ready! The more you forgive the world and those around you, the more you exercise kindness (to yourself too), the more peaceful and rewarding your OBE experiences will be.  There is an axiom in Magickal practice:  As above, so below.  You will take your state of mind with you into the Astral.

There is another saying:  Wherever you go, there you are!  Trite sounding but true.

I seem to be saying all this to everyone.  I must be sounding like a broken record these days.  All I know is that it works.  So pet some animals, hug your mate, eat healthy (not Ramen, egad!), and smile.  

Peace,
tish

[alpha]

well here goes.I wasnt feeling well.Right now im gettin off of anti-anxiety medication.So my body is still adjusting to this change.I had a half a bowl of good ole ramen noodles,than lied down on bed to sleep.Im very new too this stuff.Ive only had 2 short obe and some lucid dreaming so far.I wasnt even trying to project because I decided not too till I was feeling normal again.I somehow woke up in my astral body.These are the parts I remember.Being in some house it was more like a mansion,with atleast 20 foot ceilings.There was a casino table with a few people,playing what looked like to be poker.There was an older man maybe in his 50s with white hair nearby.He spoke to me and said the noises Ive been hearing upstairs were them.Well he said something like that.I taught about this and  I have been hearing banging for quite some time..But I dont believe it is some entity.Just the people who live above me make alot of noise sometimes.It bothers me Especially when trying to meditate or read it kinda pisses me off.But they never complain about my tv being to loud,im sure they can hear it.So i try to not let it bother me too much.I told this white haired man somethin about that I wasnt reallly good at cards.Started to walk away and they were a bunch of other people on the side standing around.Well one of them looked like he was gettin to close.Looked like he touched me..I couldnt really see that clearly at this point.So I rembered to fly upwards.When I started going through the ceiling I hit what felt to be some kind of force field.It felt as if I couldnt get through,I could feel like some kind of gravity pulling at my body.Especially at my head.Everything was black.Than I ended up in a hallway.There was a couch on the side,I was looking in a mirror I think.There was nobody on it.Than I must of turned my head towards where the couch was.There was this dark guy.Dressed in like some kind of black outfit.On that same  couch,.he didnt have a face it was like some kind of tight black mask.Almost like a dark nylon type thing.You couldnt see through it.He was sitting there with his arms crossed.He told me to leave.I felt I disturbed him,I heard myself say please forgive me a bunch of times.With him saying go away.After every time I said it. I started walking away.Than  I was back in the physical again.I layed there and taught about what just happened.I started to feel really weird shivering sensations and my skin was crawling.Especially near the back of my head near my neck.I did some bounce techniques from head to toe a bunch of times.The feelings went through my whole body.And it felt like they got worst..It could of been that  I had a fan blowing in my face.But I didnt feel cold.And I usually sleep with the fan on and ive never felt anything like that.Maybe I was kind of spooked from the experience.It felt like goosebumps were covering my body.When I was bouncing.But I didnt really feel scared,I was pretty calm,Like I usually am when I wake up.Well I got up put my clothes on and came on here.Weird feelings seem to be gone.
What do you guys think about this?