Astral Projection and World Peace.....

[Ybom]

Approaching from a different direction. One cannot be peaceful without being suffered first. Can peace be defined without understanding of the dark side? Sort of like the sweet isn't as sweet without the sour thing.

[G!]

THis is God, let's remember that World peace is only the beginning.

[G!]

World peace is way beyond evil in all.
I AM SATAN>

[Stookie]

"One cannot be peaceful without being suffered first."

That reminds me of a man named Jesus... according to some, he "suffered" so we don't have to.

"Can peace be defined without understanding of the dark side?"

I guess that's why he decended into hell first.

I'm not trying to preach Christianity to anyone. It's just what popped into my mind when I read it.

[Ybom]

"One cannot be peaceful without being suffered first."

That reminds me of a man named Jesus... according to some, he "suffered" so we don't have to.

"Can peace be defined without understanding of the dark side?"

I guess that's why he decended into hell first.

I'm not trying to preach Christianity to anyone. It's just what popped into my mind when I read it.

No, I emotionally tagged my post with Jesus, so yes you might have picked up on it. If so, that's amazing! However it was more of a warning to avoid the concept of Jesus doing it for us. I understand that that is one translation of what the Bible means, but I believe there is more to it than that, since Jesus spoke of following in his footsteps. If you want to discuss Jesus, then by all means let's, but...I'd prefer not to at this point.

Who here knows anyone who could use a bit more of an open mind? Alternatively, how about people who need to be a bit more closed minded? I think there are more people who could be a bit more open about changes than people who could be a bit more closed about them, but this is just hypothesizing. What do you think?

[Stookie]

Who here knows anyone who could use a bit more of an open mind? Alternatively, how about people who need to be a bit more closed minded?

So very true. In the search for truth, it's easy to get wrapped around concepts that don't apply. Look at all the New Age books out there. Someone a bit too open-minded could really get pulled into some crap. And a closed minded person would be limited on what they learn. It's hard to find a balance in life. I guess that why times of peace are interrupted by times of war.

[SilverSlider]

Well, I got here kind of late but anywho...here we go!

Someone mentioned at the beginning that would peace would be dull because we would all be the same. I thought that same way several years ago, but something happened...I think it was when I really started to be a more compassionate individual and really started hoping for peace that I realized peace would be far from boring. Imagine peace on a small scale; a night where none of your friends fight, isn't that great? We would all retain our individuality, it's just everyone would be good to each other.

IMO, sin can be translated into karma, or atleast that's roughly how I think of sin as. When I think of sin I think it as an act that gets punishes for, which seems like a test, of sorts, administered by God. When I think of karma, it seems to fit better with what goes on here on earth - learning.  

I don't know about the rest of you, but when I am really nice and compassionate to people, I notice a *huge* difference in how other peolpe treat me, even if I'm not being overly nice.  Especially vice versa, if I treat people poorly, I notice an ever bigger difference in how I'm treated by other people.

For the person that mentioned people striving for peace are dreamers, I feel the same way as the late John Lennon about that. From "Imagine" by John Lennon:

You may say Im a dreamer,
but Im not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And the world will live as one.

I like to read this as "Each person walks their own path but everyone's goal is the same. When we all have gone through the same things, we'll meet back home."

The idea that one must know evil before seeing the good reminds me of another quote, actually, by a famous man named Frederick Nietzche and goes something along the lines of "If a trees branches reach to heaven, it's roots surely reach to hell." Which, I think, Illustrates this pretty well.

This is where IMHO, reincarnation comes in. I have not had a violent past, but I am striving for a peaceful world; where did I learn it? I'm sure many of us have gone through lives of both extremes, and probably everything inbetween.

all right that's enough for now

brad

[Stookie]

I don't know about the rest of you, but when I am really nice and compassionate to people, I notice a *huge* difference in how other peolpe treat me, even if I'm not being overly nice. Especially vice versa, if I treat people poorly, I notice an ever bigger difference in how I'm treated by other people.

My job doesn't really entail that I deal with customers, but sometimes I have too. Before when I had to deal with one, my attitude would immediately turn too "oh God, here we go...". I would be nice to the people, but it would all be very business, no pleasure.

But since I've been practicing AP, my attitude towards people have changed, and the dealings with customers have improved greatly. I still treat them pretty much the same way, but my inward attitude has changed, and I notice this through the way they interact with me. I feel as though sometimes I leave an impression on them, and maybe even changed their day. Sometimes they change mine. Maybe by saying something nice, or even a smile.

I think that's one step towards peace.

[David Warner]

Stookie,

I know what you are talking about with ap and how it can help with situations like you said. This can help at work, through friends, family, customers, everyday occurrences. Also, mix in a little Dale Carnegie and you will go far...

Tvos