How I Got Out For The First Time

[Fresco]

Kurt, do you use a headrest when AP'ing??  Or do you just keep your body straight at a 90 degree angle??

[kurtykurt42]

I usally have my iPod playing with my little iHome player. But then other entities will try talking to me and I usually turn down the music so that I can hear them better. And my chair probably keeps my back at about 75 degrees.

[Fresco]

I usally have my iPod playing with my little iHome player. But then other entities will try talking to me and I usually turn down the music so that I can hear them better. And my chair probably keeps my back at about 75 degrees.

But you dont lean the back of your head against a wall or headrest, right??

[kurtykurt42]

My head is not supported by anything.

[Fresco]

My head is not supported by anything.

OK thanx, that means I'm doing it right then 

[Anemani]

Nope It did not look like that and besides it was not going up it was going to the side, like a plane.

sort of looked like this, but bigger and one was wayyyy  brighter, very beautiful. the other was dull. and no one could see it but me... I tried to right it off as something like a plane, but it was not the shape at all, it disappeared into thin air and it came out of no where. The only reason I saw it was because I was staring off at the sky thinking and then I saw it. I looked at for a second turn away, looked again and then pointed it out. The other people called me crazy and said that there was nothing there, then they said maybe it is a star. which I pointed out to them it could not be a star or they would have seen it themselves (plus it was way too bright for any stars and stars are not that big)

[Fresco]

Once we're all capable of exiting we should have an astral meeting between all of us.  That be cool.
We could meet at an astral strip joint and have a few astral beers  

[Anemani]

O.O but my little mind is not ready for that. lol ^^ but a meet up would be cool. I was just trying to AP again and I had my eyes open after a while of laying there, but did not realize it until they started to close  I did not even know I had opened them. When I decided to stop geez was there a bad taste in my mouth -.-  I think my progress was better than last night, woot woot

[Fresco]

O.O but my little mind is not ready for that. lol ^^ but a meet up would be cool. I was just trying to AP again and I had my eyes open after a while of laying there, but did not realize it until they started to close  I did not even know I had opened them. When I decided to stop geez was there a bad taste in my mouth -.-  I think my progress was better than last night, woot woot

Are you getting to the point where the vibrations are steadily getting worse (with worse I mean better)??!!

[Anemani]

I do not really feel the vibrations anymore. If you find your pulse on you neck and feel it, that is what I feel except a bit stronger. Then after that my legs and my arms start to feel like they are being poked with needles (like when you foot or hand starts to fall asleep), but not really like vibrations. (or at least what I had been feeling)  I miss the vibrations

[Fresco]

I do not really feel the vibrations anymore. If you find your pulse on you neck and feel it, that is what I feel except a bit stronger. Then after that my legs and my arms start to feel like they are being poked with needles (like when you foot or hand starts to fall asleep), but not really like vibrations. (or at least what I had been feeling)  I miss the vibrations

Wow, thats weird 

I'm the exact opposite my vibrations are getting more and more violent (with violent I mean stronger in a good way).

[Anemani]

Yeah, I wonder why things have changed, it seemed to be going so well not that many days ago. 
Well I was just focusing on the ringing in my ear and the it sort of went away for a split second before coming back a bit higher pitched. ^^ I had to stop short because my foots what got itchy. I tried to sit it out, but it was like torture and I had to itch it. 
How are you coming along?

[Fresco]

How are you coming along?

I'm doing the babysteps method.  Each day I do my trance and vibrations a bit longer.
This morning I did it for 20 min.  Tomorrow I'll do 25 min.  The next day half an hour, and so on and so on until I exit.

My vibes are getting more and more intense though, so thats progress 

[Anemani]

I do not know if what I have planned will work, but I am going to keep my eyes open and focus on moving my hand out.... I wonder if I get it out if I can pull the rest of me out.  I was just trying that a bit ago and it helps to make sure I am not moving my physical hand. My vision started to go white form staring so long  ^^ if this works I will call Anemani`s technique, get one hand out and pull the rest of you out! my brother inturupted me thats why I did not get to see if it worked

[personalreality]

There was an old (Monroe) technique where your goal was to "reach out to the vibrations" and pull them back to your body.  But what you were really doing was "grabbing vibrations" and pulling yourself out of your body to them.

[personalreality]

I use full head support.  Actually I lay in my bed.  I used to use an upright chair, but now I use my bed with full head and neck support.  It has been a lot easier for me this way.

[Anemani]

There was an old (Monroe) technique where your goal was to "reach out to the vibrations" and pull them back to your body.  But what you were really doing was "grabbing vibrations" and pulling yourself out of your body to them.

Well I would give that a try, but I do not feel the vibrations anymore 

[personalreality]

I never felt them like that either, it seemed a bit whacky, but it was essentially the point-shift method. 

I stopped feeling vibes a long time ago, but I feel buzzing now.  It feels different.  I buzz when I actually move from in body to out of body.

I would say you're doing well.

[Anemani]

Really?  I was beginning to worry that I was going backwards instead of forward. I hope that I am getting closer. lol I was talking to myself half an hour ago saying. Tonight I am going to AP. That`s right watch out cuz I am coming. *blushes* I was getting really pumped up then I went back to what I was doing and started to see... how do I describe this.. ^^ well lets just say it looked like a bunch of sparkles where dance across my eyes. I looked around to see if they would go away and closed and opened my eyes but they went away on their own time. Was this just an eye trick?

[Fresco]

I read in a book tonight that the vibrations are supposed to go away after 20 to 40 minutes (sometimes earlier).
The vibes are actually part of OBE and not astral projection

[Anemani]

What is the difference from OBE and AP?

[Fresco]

What is the difference from OBE and AP?

I only had an OBE but no AP yet, but from what I read an OBE simply means you hover a few feet outside your body.
An AP means a much advanced stage of OBE involving travelling to different astral planes.

Think of it being at an airport.  While you take off in the plane looking back at the runway, thats would be an OBE.
But a few hours on your plainride flying over a carribean paradise island would be the AP.

Best I can describe it anyways

[Anemani]

Oh I see.  lol I have had neither.

[kurtykurt42]

So, when I go to these higher dimensional planes that aren't in the astral am I still astral projecting? I guess not, my group calls it remote extension or density travel but I think astral projection sounds cool anyways! 

[Anemani]

I fell asleep trying to AP again I woke up though like at 2 in the morning, because I was on my back and I was going to turn on my side in my sleep and got tangled up in my headphone cords. ^^ I thought well this is a great opportunity to try again and I lay on my back and instantly fell back to sleep. ^^ and then I had "another" creepy dream -.-