How I Got Out For The First Time

[Anemani]

Nighttime is the worst time to AP they say, also its not good to AP after a meal (wait at least 3 to 4 hrs.)
Best time is afternoonish around 4 or 5PM.

Stick with it though, practice makes perfect.  I'm told anyone can do this

I am going to try and find some earplugs... really all the noise that goes on in the morning/afternoons freak me out and messes everything up. ^^"

[Xanth]

Nighttime is the worst time to AP they say

Nighttime for *most of us* means "time to sleep".
Our bodies know this as well.  Generally it's a time after we've spent a long while being awake and doing stuff... so we're mentally tired.
This isn't quite the state of mind we want to be in to practice projection or do trance work.

, also its not good to AP after a meal (wait at least 3 to 4 hrs.)

This is because your body diverts a good portion of your blood to your stomach area to assist in the digestion process.  This can be quite distracting.

Best time is afternoonish around 4 or 5PM.

For a good chunk of us, this is the best time to do it as you're physically and mentally wide awake... yet, you're slightly on the "becoming tired" side of your day. 

Stick with it though, practice makes perfect.  I'm told anyone can do this

This is quite possibly the best advice anyone can give on these forums.
"Stick with it"... if you quit, you're guaranteeing that you'll *NEVER* do it.
And yes, *ANYONE* can do it. 

[Fresco]

Well said Xanth.

Its now taking me less than 10 minutes for my body to go into vibrations.  This is after only 3 days of trying.
So I'm quickly getting better at it. 

I still havent exited yet but I'm sure it wont be long now. 
I still find it a little scary, kinda like taking my first hit of LSD 

Here's a website of some guy who travelled to distant planets (or so he claims): http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/VisitedPlanets.html

[Anemani]

I have a question. How do you know when your really really close to exiting... like on the verge of it?

[Fresco]

I have a question. How do you know when your really really close to exiting... like on the verge of it?

I dont know yet, I'll let you know when I do exit.

My first OBE was totally spontaneous, I never planned for it, it was a complete surprise.  
I'll never forget it though.  Its as real as me sitting here typing this right now.

They say when you're ready to exit you will somehow sense it

[Anemani]

When you try to ap/obe. Do you also get where everything is shaking?

[Fresco]

When you try to ap/obe. Do you also get where everything is shaking?

Totally!!  I get sweaty too!

But I read this is normal and doesnt affect your physical body at all (READ:  you cant die or injure yourself).
I cant wait to do a (planned) Exit.  This stuff is cool!!   

[Anemani]

Crap I am having a serge of energy. makes me want to scream. ^^ yeah but schools is almost out and I am pumped to get this. There is so much that I want to do!!! ^^ I tell my friend every day that today will be the day I get it. I have been trying for... well for a couple or so weeks (have to find that one dream so I can use it to figure out when I started)

[11_Chimp_11]

I'm the same as you Fresco in that I get really close (vibes, shaking) and then freak out at the last minute (usually because it's dark)
I've been practicing nearly every afternoon and night for about 26 days using other methods but this post from PersonalReality has made all the difference for me.

Question: The other day I got the closest I'd ever been where I felt like I was covered in cling wrap and then noticed a wierd smell/taste at the height of it. I'm pretty sure it was the smell and taste of NOTHING (which we've never experienced in the physical before). When you think about it those senses are bombarded continually with all kinds of flavors every minute of every day, and when it's not there it's super noticeable.  Just a weird thing that I wasn't expecting. Can anyone else confirm this or am I hallucinating?

[Anemani]

  That was awesome. I can only imagine what it will be like when I actually exit. It took me a little longer to start feeling the vibrations, but they were waaaay stronger. I do not think I am getting in the right state of mind though. ^^... also  while I was trying to ap I heard this weird clear whistle, right by my ear, it formed a short tune, but I did not hear it for long.... what was that??

[Tiny]

Dear folks,

it must always be mentioned however,

that desire is one of the primary inhibitors!


We often attach ourselves to experiences because in our mind we remember them as pleasant, desiring to repeat them. This causes us to interfer the next time, instead of letting it happen and with force it can not work. Therefore, desire is a primary inhibitor.

He who realizes this soon enough can save himself a lot of frustration. I wish I had realized it earlier.


peace

[Anemani]

Thanks for this, I will keep it in mind when I try later on today and tonight

[personalreality]

I have said it before, I'll say it again.  I'm thrilled that the way I get out is helping so many. 

@ Anemani

The state of mind is the real sign that you're close to exit.  Being that you're relatively new to getting this close to projecting, you'll probably continue to feel strong exit sensations (energy rush, heavy vibes, tingling, heart center surge, rapid shallow breath, etc.) and in my experience these always end the attempt.  But, if you keep at it you'll develop the trance state more and you'll be able to achieve the proper level of trance.  Once you achieve the appropriate level of trance the sensations diminish.  You'll be told a lot that the more you practice the less intense the sensations are and that's true.  I think it's partially because you're becoming desensitized to them but I think that what's really happening is that you're understanding and achieving a state of trance that you weren't reaching before.  The big goal here is to shift awareness from your body to your mind as completely as possible.  It's the same for phasing as it is for the old style exit (in phasing though, you are "turning" your awareness rather than "pushing" it out of your body).  When you become so entranced with what's happening in your mind, you have almost no awareness of your body and so you don't feel any sensations.  It may be that the sensations are still there and you're just not aware of them (possibly, but I'm not so sure) or what I think is happening is that you have effectively "disconnected" from your brain/body and your consciousness is no longer sending signals to your body to tell it something strange is happening, something that shouldn't happen when you're awake.  (NOTE: I'm not saying that's it's unnatural to project from a waking state, I'm just saying that in your body/brain/ego's opinion it's misaligned with your typical experience.  Your body is habituated to projecting during sleep, but you have to get it used to the idea of doing it from a waking state)  What's probably happening is that you've successfully "copied" your consciousness into a form that is ready to project away from the body, but back on the body side of things, your normal consciousness is sleeping peacefully and so your body takes no notice of the fact that you just left.

So what are you going to feel at that magical moment?  Well, maybe nothing.  To be honest, the only way I know that it's time to project is when I wake (from a state of flickering consciousness, not from normal sleep) and feel that my consciousness has already started the transition and I feel myself already buzzing out.  At this point I just "push" myself the rest of the way out.  From here I have usually just managed to separate my awareness from existing solely in my body, but I'm not really out yet, I still need to do some kind of exit technique.  By this I don't mean the Rope or anything, I'm past that point.  This is where I roll-out, stand up, somersault backwards, or some other movement that will give me some forward momentum away from the body. 

I think the most important thing to notice in order to exit is what your consciousness feels like.  Do you feel fully aware?  Do you feel like you can pay attention to something (anything) or like you have enough awareness to do some method or technique?  Are you thinking at all?  Do you have enough awareness to say to yourself, "OK, I feel like I'm in the right place, let's try an exit technique now"?  If you answered yes to any of those then you're not there yet.  You want your mind to feel like it's pretty much asleep.  For example, yesterday I was doing some trance practice just to get into trance and stay in a single-minded state for as long as I could and at one point my awareness came back to a degree that I had some cognitive ability and I took a second to notice my body and see how it felt and I WAS SNORING!  It was the weirdest thing.  I was asleep but I was awake inside my body.  I mean talk about mind awake/body asleep!  I actually heard and felt myself snoring.  It kind of sucks because I've been telling my fiance for years that I don't snore.  What was funny was that I also felt a little furry body on my hand breathing (my cat, he likes to project with me) and he was snoring too, at almost the same rate as me!    But you see my point.  You want to be in such a deep trance state that your cognitive function is pretty much gone.  It's hard to explain if you haven't felt it, but the closest approximation is when you wake up early in the morning (like 4am, hours before you have to get up) and you don't really do anything, you just notice that you're awake but aren't thinking about it.  There's no internal chatter saying, "hey, I'm awake, my feet are cold, I have to pee", you are just aware with no thoughts.  That's what you want to get to.  When you can get there intentionally, you will easily leave your body. 

[Fresco]

I have said it before, I'll say it again.  I'm thrilled that the way I get out is helping so many.  

And I thank you for it.
I bought that book "AP in 90 days", its 478 pages long, they couldve made it 1 page if they printed your method......LOL.

Has anyone else noticed you're a happier person after AP'ing??
I'm a bundle of joy to be around lately, always smiling, cracking jokes.....etc.  Not that I was depressing before I'm just a lot livelier.

Anyone else notice this??

[missym]

Has anyone else noticed you're a happier person after AP'ing??
I'm a bundle of joy to be around lately, always smiling, cracking jokes.....etc.  Not that I was depressing before I'm just a lot livelier.

Even though I have yet to have a successful AP, I'm a much lovelier person these days too. 
Did you practice energy work before starting AP?
I never got into spirituality stuff until about 3 months ago, and since then my entire identity has changed... in a good way though. 

[Fresco]

Did you practice energy work before starting AP?
I never got into spirituality stuff until about 3 months ago, and since then my entire identity has changed... in a good way though. 

I never even heard of energy work until last week, let alone practice it   

[missym]

Are you a spiritual person?

[Fresco]

Are you a spiritual person?

Very!

I always believed in God and the Bible.  No way life on earth formed by itself, and nobody is gonna tell me differently.
I always get a good laugh at atheists when they try to explain their half-baked theories on evolution and how it all started by itself

There's also evidence in the Bible of ancient prophets AP'ing.  Its in 2 Kings (Elisha)

[Fresco]

Here's a good read on AP and the God-plane: http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/GodPlane.html

[personalreality]

I minored in religious studies for my undergraduate and i still take religious studies classes for the fun of it now and if there's one thing I've learned about Christianity, it's that people wrote the Bible and some one would do good to keep that in mind.  (I was raised southern baptist also)

People wrote all the spiritual texts of the world, that doesn't mean there aren't wise words in them.  But remember that these kinds of things are humans doing their best to describe in limited language something that is truly beyond words.

If you want the unabridged version of the old testament you can read ancient sumerian texts.  And some hindu ones.  Funny how those things just popped into Christian history.  Perhaps they all have more in common than we thought.

@ Fresco, I don't disagree that anti-theist explanations are a little lacking in substance, I mean...."BANG! ZAP! People!".  But sometimes, "I'll make light today, earth and sky tomorrow, then maybe some cute little animals, and in 5000 years some talking primates, LET MY WILL BE DONE! POOF" sounds a little ridiculous too.

Science is a religion all it's own.  I was speaking to another graduate psych student yesterday on campus and he made the point that in psychology we're good at the pre and post, we know when there's something wrong with you and we know when it's not wrong anymore, but as for how or why the treatment worked, we have no idea and we're not really gonna push the issue.  So I pointed out that a lot of religious traditions often have a similar perspective, we won't say why this practice works, but do it because we know that everything will be as it should be on the other side of the issue.  Yet scientists still worship their god, the scientific method and call all others false.  Kind of sounds like other types of folk I know.

Science thinks that it has separated itself from world religions by becoming objective, measurable, reproduce-able, but from a certain perspective, science is just as much superstition as all those "religions" they tried to distance themselves from.  The biggest reason is that they too are limited by their scale and position (how "big" they are and the perspective from which they view reality) and unfortunately they seem to think that they know it all (as compared to other traditions that they call superstitions, like religions).

[personalreality]

Also, I'm not saying that you can't have spirituality in religion, I think that's the silliest attempt at separation by "new agers" (no offense intended).  But there is a difference between carrying out your practice for spiritual pursuits and following dogma because you're told it's morally right and because your community does it.

[Fresco]

@ Fresco, I don't disagree that anti-theist explanations are a little lacking in substance, I mean...."BANG! ZAP! People!".  But sometimes, "I'll make light today, earth and sky tomorrow, then maybe some cute little animals, and in 5000 years some talking primates, LET MY WILL BE DONE! POOF" sounds a little ridiculous too

Oh for sure PR, I totally agree.

I'll even go as far to say that God may very well have used evolution to create animals, plants and people.
I just cannot accept that life created itself somehow, it had to have had a "designer".  When you look at the complexity of the human body its inconceivable to think it just popped out of the ground by itself.

But did God use some kind of evolution process to , over millions of years, create life somehow??
Now thats something to ponder and think about

[Anemani]

I think the most important thing to notice in order to exit is what your consciousness feels like.  Do you feel fully aware?  Do you feel like you can pay attention to something (anything) or like you have enough awareness to do some method or technique?  Are you thinking at all?  Do you have enough awareness to say to yourself, "OK, I feel like I'm in the right place, let's try an exit technique now"?  If you answered yes to any of those then you're not there yet.  You want your mind to feel like it's pretty much asleep.  For example, yesterday I was doing some trance practice just to get into trance and stay in a single-minded state for as long as I could and at one point my awareness came back to a degree that I had some cognitive ability and I took a second to notice my body and see how it felt and I WAS SNORING!  It was the weirdest thing.  I was asleep but I was awake inside my body.  I mean talk about mind awake/body asleep!  I actually heard and felt myself snoring.  It kind of sucks because I've been telling my fiance for years that I don't snore.  What was funny was that I also felt a little furry body on my hand breathing (my cat, he likes to project with me) and he was snoring too, at almost the same rate as me!    But you see my point.  You want to be in such a deep trance state that your cognitive function is pretty much gone.  It's hard to explain if you haven't felt it, but the closest approximation is when you wake up early in the morning (like 4am, hours before you have to get up) and you don't really do anything, you just notice that you're awake but aren't thinking about it.  There's no internal chatter saying, "hey, I'm awake, my feet are cold, I have to pee", you are just aware with no thoughts.  That's what you want to get to.  When you can get there intentionally, you will easily leave your body. 

when I go to my sisters house. I sleep in her living room and then later they come in in the morning and I will be half awake half asleep having a dream, but knowing I am awake and hearing the sounds around me. I once was like this having a dream and I told myself I needed to remember what was happening in the dream, later I woke up fully and was a little confused and could not remember what I had told myself to remember. I was a little mad, because I told myself it was important. -.-... but I think that the state I was in at that time was very close to what you are describing, but not close enough... I have been in that state a couple of times ^^".... the first time was on my first or second try and I did not have a clue what to do and I just fully woke myself up.. but it was like I did not really hear anything like my fan or the train that goes by not to far from where I live. And I was aware, like you said, but not really thinking, which is very strange, since I have a brain that loves to think... -.- I wish I had known at the time, but I am glad I know now

[Anemani]

Very!

I always believed in God and the Bible.  No way life on earth formed by itself, and nobody is gonna tell me differently.
I always get a good laugh at atheists when they try to explain their half-baked theories on evolution and how it all started by itself

There's also evidence in the Bible of ancient prophets AP'ing.  Its in 2 Kings (Elisha)

Oh yeah, I believe that is true! -.- biology class makes me mad, we have to learn that everything comes from a small  bacteria and evolved until boom there goes a human...

[Anemani]

If you want the unabridged version of the old testament you can read ancient sumerian texts.  And some hindu ones.  Funny how those things just popped into Christian history.  Perhaps they all have more in common than we thought.

Hum I think a guest preacher we had recently, actually read some of the those texts, but I am unsure. ^^ man was that preacher very different
from the rest.

Science

For some reason I am very good at this. I do not study or pay attention during this class in school, but I have maintained an A average. I did have a 100, but I sort did not do all of my work. In fact I would be in advance classes, had I actually did my work all the previous years.