trouble with WILD and i cant OBE!

[Blackstream]

Sounds like you go lucid, then promptly lose your lucidity (once you start thinking it's real physical life, you have lost your lucidity).  First off, let me suggest "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" for dealing with WILDs and LDs in general.  Very good book.

For example, they suggest that novice LDs when they get into an LD repeat to themselves (out loud) "This is a dream, This is a dream, This is a dream".  Make sure you stay conscious of what you are saying and don't let it become some automatic thing you are saying, otherwise you could still lose your lucidity but dream you are saying "This is a dream", lol!  This helps plant in your brain that you are in fact dreaming and not at your house.  Eventually, you'll get to the point where you will keep your mind in that state all the time and won't have to worry about accidently losing lucidity.

As for going to the astral planes, I can't help you.  Ever since I've discovered AP, I haven't had any chances to get to teh planes

[JustLikeThePill]

after reading astral dynamics, it turns out that i have never had an OBE, just WILD's. i have, however, seperated from my body.

when i am lucid dreaming, i realize that i am lucid dreaming, but its like i forget that things are't real. like in my dream i went along with things as if they were real, even though i knew they weren't.

like for example,in my most recent ld, i saw people outside my window in my room, so i went down the hall to get my dad because i thought they were going to rob us or something. its like i thought it was real life.

after the dream was over, i could see my room through my eye lids . it was like night-vision goggles, except in color. also, in that same dream, i was having sleep paralysis and i was stuck to my bed. i could feel my astral body undulating about me, it felt like i my body was making a waving motion (like the ocean waves) obove my body. what's up with that?


can anyone help me auctually get to the astral plane? no techs. really work for me at all.
thanks,
clint