I don't mean to sound rude

[beavis]

I cant reproduce the proof on command, but I have proven to myself that OBE is real. I will never admit its fake because its not.

[Xvirus]

So your telling me that you that you were out of your body(tell me what did you see)if its ok with you

[Tab]

lol.. you really think this is all a joke?
Kind of extraneous and not very humorous to make for a good joke

When I was out of body I saw my house as I would have in body
well.. there were those nifty glowing geometric shapes on my ceiling that aren't really there.. but anyway

[Xvirus]

I am sure you people just had dreams(or don't get much sleep)

[beavis]

One of the times I proved it to myself:

I had my computer display a random number that I had not seen, with my eyes closed. I layed on my bed and got out for a few seconds, saw the number, opened my eyes, got up, and it was the same 4 digit number.

[Xvirus]

you people really think your seeing something aren't you/when I don't get much sleep i think i see things too

[dkj400]

Xvirus, your gonna get flamed badly. You shouldn't even be here.

Be aware of what you feel like now. You know your not dreaming, it just feels so real. Thats what you feel when out of your body.
When your dreaming, you think its real, then you wake up and realise how fake it was. You don't get that fakeness feeling when having an OBE.

[Xvirus]

I once  thought i was hereing voices like you people at night when i was trying to sleep (its all in the head people)

[beavis]

Xvirus, how do you explain me getting the number right?

"when I don't get much sleep i think i see things too"

If you think it, why do you think you're wrong?

"There is no god but there is science"

I used to be like you. I wouldnt believe anything that conflicted with common science THEORIES. I did not use faith. I experimented with OBE related things and got my proof. I still dont believe in god because he is just a theory with no proof.

[Soulfire]

Hi,

Look at the number of posts many of the people in this forum make, and then look at the length of some of what is written.  People literally spend hundreds or even thousands of hours here sharing ideas.  Does it really make sense that we would do that just to keep some "joke" going?

Also look at some of the insight, wisdom, and intelligence that is reflected in many of the posts here.  Does it really seem likely based on those factors that everybody here is simply delusional?  Even science has documented many OBEs that are not "explainable" by any "normal" means.  I don't think it is possible to prove the existance of anything to another person, especially one who does not want to believe it or is not ready to believe it.  Suffice it to say OBE is real to us and draw your own conclusions.  If you really want to discover the truth, then you will eventually find proof that is adequate to you, but not necessarily to anyone else.  []

--Soulfire

[Xvirus]

ok I can understand that(in these obe's can you take peoples energy)can you be god some how

[beavis]

There are ways to take energy, but I dont recommend you try it, because who you take it from might get mad and take it back with interest.

Sometimes it feels like being a god, if gods exist, but I dont really know what being a god feels like so my guess could be really far off.

[D.E.A.T.H]

xvirus I know its fun to XXXX with people but you'll get over it and realise that OBE's are real.
And why would you wanna be god anyway or steal someone's power,
I don't think that is possible while you're obe-ing.


NOTE FROM MODERATOR - WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Squeek]

Look I haven't even had one and I know it's real.

I mean I'd heard of people having out-of-body-experiences when I was SIX!  At that point I had no idea you could induce your own for fun, but I knew they were real actual occurences.

What's hard to beleive about it?

~Squeek

[Xvirus]

I really want to know please(How would you try to be king in the astral world)thank you

[beavis]

There is no king or form of government. Its anarchy. You cant be king.

[Xvirus]

yes you can there is always a way to get something

[ASunnieSpirit]

*DERP* [^]
This is pointless.....

The astral isnt just some human playground
their are things that have higher spiritual evolutions then
humans so
NO, you cant be king....
This isnt F**king Matrix
There is no ONE

[Xvirus]

[V]well that was not nice

[Squeek]

Of course it isn't nice.  This is the way you get a reaction when you post a topic against what almost everybody here takes as fact.  What did you honestly expect with a topic named "I don't mean to sound rude"?  That just gives it away

I know you're just getting facts, but don't base opinions without them.

~Squeek

[Xvirus]

well what if you trap the souls and use there power

[Xvirus]

what if you take all the astral souls and there power by tricking thing some how

[ASunnieSpirit]

Hey Xvirus

I have a sick sense of humor so please dont take offence

Soul sucking is fairy tales to me but if you want to learn more about the astral and how it works you should read up on it.
Bruce has a good guide on this web page
mabey you can try it for yourself and see if its real

[Soulfire]

Maybe you would do better for yourself trying to figure out how to help other people and increase your ability to love rather than trying to dominate other people and steal their energy?

You will never find a person who engages in this kind of behaviour who is truly happy.  The might have all kinds of "things" and people liking or even worshipping them, they might even appear happy on the outside, but they will always be empty, afraid, and lonely deep inside.

I don't expect that you will believe me, but I urge you to take a few moments of your time and try something.  Think of someone you care about, or maybe even somebody you don't.  Spend 5-10 minutes or more thinking of a way to express some form of love for them.  Even something as simple as giving them an honest compliment about something special about them that few people would normally notice.  Then do it without expecting anything in return, not even a thank you.  Concentrate of feeling love for them as you think about and do this.  Closely observe how you feel as you go through the process and afterwards.  If you allow your heart to be open even a little as you try this, you will be amazed at the result.

It will only take you a few minutes of your time and you have nothing further to lose and everyting to gain.  I sincerely hope you give it an honest try...  

--Soulfire

[Xvirus]

I believe it just takes that one being to change things