I still can't have any OBE

[P5ynergy]

Hi heres a way of doing it

Step 1 : wake up 2 hours earlier then normal.
Step 2 : take a leak , blow your nose etc
Step 3 : maintain your grogginess
Step 4 : find a couch
Step 5 : close eyes and free mind of thoughts (should be easy as your groggy)
Step 6 : start to feel paraylsis after around 30 minutes or heavy vibration
Step 7 : dont panic , dont get too excited . Will yourself to partially sit up or roll off couch.

Seems your problem is an over active mind. If you do the morning thing , the grogginess deals with it . Dont bother trying to ap at any other time unless you have full calm control. I know i dont and i only do it in morning . Had 4th sucess this morning .

[Xanth]

How can I "push" my consciousness?

I do this as well in conjunction with the Noticing exercise.

It's to describe how you "push" your consciousness forward... but I'll try.
As you're sitting there staring at the darkness, the act of pushing your consciousness forward is that you want to move INTO the darkness that's in front of you.
I describe it usually as "drilling your consciousness forward" instead of pushing.  I imagine my consciousness as a drill that's moving forward through the darkness as a drill going through wood or dirt.

[CFTraveler]

I describe it as letting myself 'fall' forward (or, if you've ever gone surfing, letting myself 'lean into' the wave, and getting sucked into the tube.)  Not an effort, more like a 'letting it happen'.

[todd421757]

I describe it usually as "drilling your consciousness forward" instead of pushing.  I imagine my consciousness as a drill that's moving forward through the darkness as a drill going through wood or dirt.

This is a great explanation of it.

[Georgep]

Still cant achieve anything  
I think that the problem is that I can't get into sleep paralysis. When still, I can feel my body and I can, at anytime, stop what Im doing with moving it. (so, I can move anything)

Is there any good advice on how to get in sleep paralysis?  

Thanks!

[todd421757]

Georgep,

Read the last post by embrace about sleep paralysis. It gives a very good way to get sleep paralysis. Good luck. It's called OOBE-the easy way.

[Lionheart]

 George after 8 pages of the same thing I suggest you watch this video by Thomas Campbell. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRar8IOwic8&feature=BFa&list=PLEB923BB17E5849A3&lf=plpp_video. He not only aides people in how to get there, what frame of mind they need, techniques etc., he explains that this is a "life journey", not a foot race. You can not force yourself to view the higher realities. You can teach yourself to attain them though, through hard work and determination. He talks about the importance of meditation, but not in the sense of doing it for a couple of weeks or months, he talks about doing the same thing over 5 years. That finding the higher reality begins with a decision to change. Change the way you think, change the way you act to others. This is not just about closing your eyes and being successful. I have listened to his speeches countless times. Last night for instance I was using his speech as a background to Phase. Some people can't sit and listen to a 3 hour speech, their life is too fast paced for that. I am in no rush at all. You start to see little changes in the way you think and act, you start to notice small progresses that are being made. First you learn to close your eyes and notice. Then all of a sudden vibrations or sounds start to occur. This is usually when a new person will immediately stop for the day, due to the excitement of something unusual occurring. The trick is to passively observe everthing with an air of curiosity. Relax, release, let go, no stress, no pressure. Then write down your results for that session. The next day you repeat, but this time something new happens. Once again write down your results and on to the next day. Approach this as you would an scientific experiment.  

[Xanth]

Still cant achieve anything  
I think that the problem is that I can't get into sleep paralysis. When still, I can feel my body and I can, at anytime, stop what Im doing with moving it. (so, I can move anything)

Is there any good advice on how to get in sleep paralysis?  

Thanks!

You don't EVER have to experience Sleep Paralysis in order to project.  Never.  It's a misconception that it's some kind of goal.  It's not... it's simply not.

You're looking for some quick fix and you simply won't find it.  What you need is to train your mind... and you won't do that over 4 months trying to find a quick fix.  Won't happen.

[Contenteo]

Dude, I mentioned the importance of F10 in my first post to you.

Then I yelled at you and called you out for not reading the material I posted.

Now you ask for sources on the material I told you to read that you said you did!?

Just look back at my first post that info is right there.

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Georgep]

Dude, I mentioned the importance of F10 in my first post to you.

Then I yelled at you and called you out for not reading the material I posted.

Now you ask for sources on the material I told you to read that you said you did!?

Just look back at my first post that info is right there.

Cheers,
Contenteo

I read everything you give me. Except that your post has been posted 3 months ago and I can't remember it, English is not my native language, so, it's a bit difficult for me to keep anything on my mind and remember it.

Sorry, and thanks!  

[Xanth]

LoL

[Georgep]

LoL

If you can't undestand anything very well, you won't be able to remember everything. 

[Contenteo]

lol mb 

you type pretty well for it being not your first.

So I messed up, I post this so often, thought I gave you Tom's focus 10 back there. But I didn't, I gave you to other links.

This is what you want to read.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/focus_10_mind_awakebody_asleep-t24783.0.html

Cheers,
Contenteo

[Xanth]

And that's "Major Tom"  aka Fred... not Tom Campbell as we all are usually talking about these days.  LoL

[Georgep]

you type pretty well for it being not your first.

LOL!  
Thanks. Didn't notice that! Hahaha

This is what you want to read.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_permanent_astral_topics/focus_10_mind_awakebody_asleep-t24783.0.html

WOW. So many letters in this post! I will never finish it!  

[Georgep]

And that's "Major Tom"  aka Fred... not Tom Campbell as we all are usually talking about these days.  LoL

And then it's my fault and you're telling me that I'm not reading everything you give me. No, I read them all. Its yours fault that you give me mistaken links!  
Just kidding of course =))

Sorry for the doublepost. Maybe a Mod can merge my posts.

[todd421757]

Georgep,

Tell me about your OBE practice sessions and how a typical one goes, so we know more on how to help you.

[Georgep]

Georgep,

Tell me about your OBE practice sessions and how a typical one goes, so we know more on how to help you.

OK.
Let me explain you my program when I'm trying to achieve an OBE.

Firstly, I just lay on my bed in a comfortable position. Then, I'm trying not to move any part of my body (except from my eyes - is this bad?). Then, when I'm feeling my body "heavy" (I just can feel my hands and legs heavy. Not any other part of my body is that heavy as them), to be open-faced, I don't really know what I'm trying. Sometimes I just "stay there" with still body, looking at the darkness behind my eyes and trying to see the changes that are created [like lights, circles of light (?)] e.t.c., but I don't tell when I'm seeing it that "oh, look, there, there is a change". I just see them. I try to be passive. I don't know if you can really undestand what I'm saying. Some other times, I just "stay there", with my semi-asleep body (semi: because I can move anytime any part of it, but as I said I can feel my hands e.t.c. heavy), trying to use some methods like "The Rope", or thinking I'm running, swimming, feeling my bed as a big swing (which, most of the times, this method I could say that it's working, 'cause I can feel some "movement" in my body) e.t.c.

If you can't undestand something from my post (or all of it  ), just let me know!

Thanks!  

[todd421757]

When your hands and legs feel heavy, you are experiencing sleep paralysis. Like I said in previous posts, you need to get the vibrations. First goal is sleep paralysis (which you can get), second goal is to get the vibrations (you have gotten them a few times but not often enough), the final goal is separation into an OBE (this you never have gotten). So I think you are halfway between goal number one and two. This is pretty good.

George, can you hear a high pitch sound in your head when it it very quiet? If you can let me know. I may have a technique for you to use.

I never use visualizations in my OBE practice sessions. I only use sounds. I am clairaudient. Maybe you are too.

[Georgep]

George, can you hear a high pitch sound in your head when it it very quiet? If you can let me know. I may have a technique for you to use.

I have a problem in my head that it's called "Tinnitus". Maybe you have heard of it. It's is like this sound, in the "background" of this video, this "zzzzzzzzzzz". I can't really describe this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OE5fIoveLoM#t=28s

so, I (can) hear a high pitch sound in my head, all the time. 

[todd421757]

so, I (can) hear a high pitch sound in my head, all the time. 

This is great news. You can use that sound to have OBE's. I have had many OBE's just from using that sound. I have taught 8 people to have OBE's from listening to this sound. I will gather the technique together and post it on here for you to try.

[Georgep]

This is great news. You can use that sound to have OBE's. I have had many OBE's just from using that sound. I have taught 8 people to have OBE's from listening to this sound. I will gather the technique together and post it on here for you to try.

Thanks you very much Todd. And no, it's not really "great news" ( ), but ok, I learnt to live with it. It's a bit annoying. Do you have this problem tοo?

Thank you again!

[todd421757]

Do you have this problem to?

I don't have tinnitus. But I can make the sound in my head very loud like tinnitus as long as I use my will to raise the volume. Once I let up, the sound goes back to not hearing it.

[Georgep]

I don't have tinnitus. But I can make the sound in my head very loud like tinnitus as long as I use my will to raise the volume. Once I let up, the sound goes back to not hearing it.

Hmm. Wait. That's a post more about "health subjects", but anyway, I'll ask.
In the video that I gave you, they say that they here this sound "IN their ears". But I don't hear it in my ears. I feel that it is in the center of my brain. Can't describe it. Do you know if it's tinnitus or something else? 

[todd421757]

Hmm. Wait. That's a post more about "health subjects", but anyway, I'll ask.
In the video that I gave you, they say that they here this sound "IN their ears". But I don't hear it in my ears. I feel that it is in the center of my brain. Can't describe it. Do you know if it's tinnitus or something else? 

The center of the head is where you want to hear the sound, so you can have an OBE. It is the sound that is made from oscillations or vibrations of the pineal gland which is in the exact center of the head. This is a good thing to have for OBE's. Below is a link to a picture of the pineal gland that is located in the center of the head.

http://sacrededenblog.com/wp-content/uploads/uchr_01_img0052.jpg


On the other hand, tinnitus isn't in the center of the head. Tinnitus is a disorder of the ears. I am a doctor and have treated these disorders.