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Quote from: +Explorer+ on January 09, 2009, 13:27:34Thanks for your answer CFT
Quote from: tvos on January 09, 2009, 14:23:40I have been at it for the last 20+ years never had any problems.. Most of the time I am energized, feel great endeavors for the day. A year or so I projected in 23 times in the month of October 2006. That is almost everyday... No problems here..tvos
Quote from: dingo on January 09, 2009, 16:23:47The body's asleep during projection. How could it lead to exhaustion? I usually feel highly energized after projecting.
QuoteCFTravler,Interupted lack of sleep and returning from the OBE the majority of times I am not exhausted at all. Ready to go and project some more...
QuoteI have been able to put myself into the trance state under 10minutes and I have identified that my OBES are normally under 30mins after I have fallen asleep.
QuoteAll of this is a matter of conditioning, exercise and training. Learning about your body, feeling along with imagination holding that awareness. Most of this came by trial and error but after awhile I figured out how to connect by luck. Tvos
Quote from: CFTraveler on January 09, 2009, 22:46:12 Ok, let me try again:To rest you have to have X amount of deep sleep every day. I can't remember what frequency that is, but I think it's Delta. I'll have to look up that detail, though.When you go to sleep you go from Alpha to Theta to Delta and back to Alpha.When you project you hover around the Theta stage, which is the best state to project out of, and that means that your brain won't get the amount of Delta sleep it usually does.The act of staying aware during sleep disrupts the body's normal sleep patterns- the act of lucid dreaming and general awareness disrupts these patterns, because lucidity and awareness happen at a different frequency than deep sleep does.Eventually you get used to the new patterns of sleep, (you adapt, in other words) and then you are no longer exhausted from projecting (or lucid dreaming, etc.)Some people have a hard time with 'staying in theta'-and end up having insomnia, etc. from these practices.Some people don't- they adapt with very little adjustment.It is known that for some people, getting deep sleep is almost impossible- those are the people that develop certain ailments like diabetes and other problems reacting to stimuli when they don't get the deep sleep patterns they need. The older you get the less deep sleep you get, regardless of how long you sleep- because what matters is the brainwaves reaching a certain frequency for the brain to produce the hormones the body needs to grow and repair itself. If for some reason you don't adapt well to trance work, and your brainwaves are prevented from reaching deep sleep long enough (like by waking up every so many hours trying to project) the effect will be the same- exhaustion.So yes, no matter how long your body is 'asleep', if deep sleep is not achieved for x amount of hours a day, physical problems and plain old exhaustion can happen. This has been documented.If you project naturally, you probably are projecting at such a time your body is naturally at the theta stage, and are retaining the memory of the experience. Chances are you feel great afterwards. But if you don't, are starting out, changing patterns, or forcing the issue (like doing sleep interruption as a means to project) or are simply one of those people who need more Delta than others, you can be affected by it.