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Quote from: Volgerle on April 07, 2014, 15:58:55I think dreams are OBEs on the astral plane (not RTZ) of your subconscious.Did your wife comment on anything related to tis, maybe that she was also dreaming it? I would ask her, it could be a nice kind of validation.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 07, 2014, 16:16:20Dreams are simply just dreams. DMT is released when we sleep and it causes us to have hallucinations. OBEs are different.
Quote from: Volgerle on April 07, 2014, 17:03:33And what are hallucinations exactly? Do you "REALLY" know that? And how does DMT cause them? Is it in the stuff itself? If you drink e.g. a bottle of hard liquor alcohol and then start seeing ETs after that, have they been swimming in that liquid before and that's why you see them?Think about that: Is the experience not something different from a drug or any trigger causing it? That was of course a rhetorical question: it is different. The experience is a reality, no matter how you 'cause' it and by what.And then ... what is "real" anyway? So many questions we think we know the answer for, but we don't.I've had validations through dreams - without doubt. Dream telepathy - without doubt. Shared dreams - without doubt. Precognition and clairvoyance - without doubt.Many people have this, paranormal research literature is full of this (check e.g. Dean Radin's work).Open your mind (literally). Btw, we've had lots of discussions on this on this board already - it's the standad no.1 topic here, a lot to find here on the dream vs. lucid dream vs AP vs OBE issue (use search if you're interested in reading more on this).
Quote from: Enigmatik on April 07, 2014, 13:04:10I recently have dreamt that I was at my grandmas house sleeping in her living room. My wife was in another connecting room sleeping. Anyways, she has never been to my grandmas house and this wasn't even an accurate layout of the house itself. So, I begin hearing the exit noises and my body starts buzzing. I remember thinking to myself out of fear, "I'm not familiar with this place and I don't know if I want to OOB here." At this point I come out of body and float into the room that my wife is in. I float over to the corner and then right up next to her. She is sleeping on her side facing me. As I am observing her she wakes up and looks in my general direction as if she senses something paranormal. I can see the fear in her face as she looks right through me not actually seeing me. She then gets up and runs out of the room. After this I woke up. The thing about this is that it seemed so dream like, but I do remember the exit sensations.... in a dream like way I guess. Anyone experience anything like this? I have had a handful of oob's but some of them seem like they are dreams.
Quote from: Xanth on April 07, 2014, 18:19:50As Volgerle pointed out...What exactly *ARE* dreams?Scientists literally have absolutely no idea what dreams are. So when you say that "Dreams are simply just dreams"... it's a nonsense statement, because you have no idea what they really are, you're merely going on societal-based pseudo-knowledge of what dreams are. What if I told you that this physical reality was nothing but a "dream"? What if I told you that there really is no such thing as a "dream" at all?For me... this physical reality is nothing more than just another "non-physical reality" (use whatever reality-based term you want here... reality, dimension, realm, plane, etc).I've run many experiments while projecting to test the "realness" of each projection... branches on trees feel like branches on trees... concrete feels like concrete... grass underfoot feels like grass underfoot... etc.My point is if I can experience a reality that I identify as not being this physical reality while being fully conscious and aware of this fact and it's something I can directly EXPERIENCE, just as I'm experiencing this physical reality right now... then a "dream" ceases to be a term which exists. You also begin to question what is "real"... and the only conclusion I can derive from all of my experiences is this: Real is anything which you can experience. If you can experience it, it's real. Yes, that means what you would term a "hallucination".Think about that really hard for a second, then consider all the "crazy" people in the world. Makes you really wonder, eh?Anyway, I just want you (and everyone else really) to put aside those common labels which people think they know all about and begin to look at reality differently... ALLOW yourself to change your perspective slightly. You might be extremely surprised by what you learn.And if by some chance you're a materialist... then I'd question why you're even on this forum to begin with.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 07, 2014, 19:15:57Lol, I'm no materialist. But, having a healthy relationship of facts is not a bad idea, even when dealing with the non physical. If reality is nothing but a dream, show me that you are limitless? This is what I mean when I imply that there is a difference between "reality" and "dream". In one, we are limited (or at least things become harder) and in the other, not so much. I wouldn't exactly call it common labels. Thing is, facts are facts. In places like the Astral planes, we can completely ignore those, but in this "waking reality" there is a tendency for law and physics which are unfortunately inevitable.
Quote from: Xanth on April 07, 2014, 21:40:41Which "facts" are you referring to?
Quote from: Volgerle on April 07, 2014, 15:58:55Did your wife comment on anything related to tis, maybe that she was also dreaming it? I would ask her, it could be a nice kind of validation.
Quote from: Enigmatik on April 07, 2014, 22:15:16I did ask her about this and there was no connection what so ever. It just seemed different and more vague than some of the ones I have had before. I just didn't know if people have oob's with this kind of situation or if it were just a dream. I just find it strange that I would get these exit sensations if it were just a dream.
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 07, 2014, 22:07:10A regular dream and an OBE are two different things.
Quote from: Xanth on April 08, 2014, 08:35:50Next question... you do know what a "fact" is, right?After that, you can then tell me exactly what a dream is. You're apparently more informed than the scientific community regarding this. Perhaps you want to issue a paper to the world declaring this. See my point?
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on April 08, 2014, 09:55:21I never claimed to be more informed, but im pretty sure that that is fact.
Quote from: Xanth on April 08, 2014, 11:54:10 I've done a lot of research into what science thinks a dream is. The conclusion of my research is that science has absolutely no idea. They have theories and guesses, but nobody knows "for a fact". If you can find facts regarding it, I'd seriously love to read them. As I said, I spent the better part of a couple years looking.
Quote from: Xanth on April 08, 2014, 15:48:04Exactly. So what we have just confirmed is that what you have been trying to pass off as fact, is in fact not a fact at all. That makes the information you have regarding "dreams", pseudo-knowledge. Are you starting to see why "facts" aren't going to help you much when it comes to the nonphysical? This also goes for the term "hallucination". As I said, it's probably best to leave all that at the login screen before you begin reading and posting. A full cup has no room for more.