Rope Technique

[Xiaolin]

Hi guys ! I've been checking this forum for about a day and i love it, so i have decided to finally register here. I'm pretty new to astral projection, and a technique for projection that Ive been hearing alot around here is the "rope" technique. Now, i know that you are supposed to lay down and imagine that a rope is dangling round about your chest, but from there I'm stuck. Am i supposed to visualize my self grabbing the rope with, lets say- "spirit" hands ? Or do i just need to visualize my own hands grabbing the robe. Second, do i need to visualize me climbing the rope to my ceiling and beyond, or instead of visualizing going up, do i need to visualize me pulling down on the rope but staying where i am ?
Any tips appreciated, Xiaolin.

[Ryuji]

yo, ive been struggling with that one to, but as far as i know
you should see and feel the rope as real as possble. Climbing it upwards.
like you would be climbing the rope in real life. not sure bout it from your cealing or beyond 0_o

[NAB]

The less you visualize the rope, the more mental energy you will have. Just imagine yourself climbing the rope - just like you would be blind. It doesn't matter if you are imaging yourself laying or standing, just climb and imagine the feeling of upward movement. good luck

[Xiaolin]

Thanks guys