What I Am Doing Wrong?

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marwanin

hello,

Everytime I try to project

1) I lay on my back ( I sleep Always on my stomache )
2) I try to clear my mind, I got some obssession thoughts, I try to clear them up ( Not avoiding them ).. and I avoid the others..
3) I start noticing ( Lately I used to listen to music first, and 4 HZ audios later )
4) I try to find: sometimes passively, sometimes actively, the colors changes, or the shapes and forms on my eyelid BLACKNESS

After the step 4, I have 2 results:


5.1)
I get a very light sleep ( 10 - 15 Mins ) without dreams, here I wake up and I feel my body is not relaxed enough to continue practicing.. so I lie on my stomache -> I fall asleep.
5.2) I get BORED and a heavy sensation to change my position, Here I tell my self (ACTUALLY I LIE ON MYSELF) that I will continue my practice on my stomache which leads me to a very Fast Deep Sleep

NB. I m not noob, I know about OBEing, for more than 5 years..
I tried many times, sometimes I go for months without practice, But usually the IDEA of Projecting in my head ...
I Had 8 Lucid dreams (1 Natural, 7 Using Galantamine)

What i'm doing wrong?

Rudolph

You didn't say what time of day you are making attempts.

First attempts are most successful upon awakening after a full night's sleep.

Also try getting up after 6 hours and trying.

Beware the fake "seeker" who finds Truth to be abusive.

marwanin

Quote from: Rudolph on March 04, 2012, 11:54:07
You didn't say what time of day you are making attempts.

First attempts are most successful upon awakening after a full night's sleep.

Also try getting up after 6 hours and trying.



I try in the regular hours of the day, I know it's harder than WBTB.. but it's still possible!

I don't do my attempts after prior sleep,is because after 6 Hours of sleep, I JUST CAN'T FOCUS, and I LOSE MOTIVATION, SO i get back to sleep instantly.

that's why I prefer the regular day hours, when im more awake and Motivated

nickspry

#3
Not practicing after sleep is probably why you're not succeeding.  Although it's possible, it's much more difficult at other times. You're probably better off trying to address the lack of focus problem than maybe wasting your time trying to phase when it's unlikely to work IMO. You could try using an OBE alarm/timer to stop you going straight back to sleep. Just set it for ten or fifteen minute intervals and try not to move each time it wakes you.