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AJDIN

Having some thoughts about if this was an OBE or not

So it was morning after i had just woken up and decided to try to have an OBE

Felt the vibrations like normal and i was picturing myself in my room, so i had the layout and everything planned in my head where i was
going to be when i exit my body

Except for some reason i was thinking of the layout of my OLD House, and i didn't realise till i got out of my body by rolling out of it, i ended up on the floor and i turned around and i was in my old room, i saw someone on a bed and i thought it was me, after that i was crawling on the ground my upper body was free but my legs didn't seem too move,

I crawled out the window, landed on the floor and then i could walk, and now it was then i realised i was in my old house, i walked up my driveway and and looked at my neighbors house too see if i could pick out something to remember so i could have a look in physical life when i woke up

I saw a car down the road and everything looked legit, my view was very wide also thats something that i also noted

There was heaps of distractions during the morning, my dogs for example so when i peered off into the road and thought to myself it would be nice for a guide to help me, but no response for the next few seconds, then the scenary dissolved slowly and i was back in my bed

I'm getting alot better with getting out of my body now and holding the vibrations and letting them take over

So my question is, was this an OBE?

And also i haven't been doing any chakra meditations, is it necessary?

I have had past experiences with LSD and Mushrooms and alot of Lucid dreaming ( I taught myself when i was young , keeping a dream journal and all that ) so I'm thinking my conscience is expanded to where its allowing me to have OB-E's and be conscious about it seeing as i have only been attempting this a week

Boom

Hi,

Sounds like youre attempting to project to the RTZ (Real Time Zone). Which is a typical OBE where you are viewing the physical as it stands at the moment.

You thought about your old house, so you instantly ended up there.  You may have thought that you saw yourself there, because you were expecting to, then you realised you werent where you thought you would be.  Sounds like a classic Astral Projection if you ask me, rather than an out of body experience to the real time zone.   Even if you were in the RTZ (albeit at your old house), it is so subjective that there is going to be huge differences in what is really there at this moment of time.  Personaly i'm starting to question whether there is such thing as projecting to the Real Time Zone.

Either way, good work :)

AJDIN

Thanks for the reply Boom

Little confused between OBE and Astral projection you were talking about,

What i did was projected myself too my old house, as it stands today?

Could it be possible it was someone in my room sleeping there based on the current
owners who live there?

Then this leads to my next question,

Real time zone, this is for example being out of my body and being next to my physical form but in my astral body?
Meaning i can see things on the physical plane and go places as they are happening?

Thanks again for your reply man

Boom

Hi AJDIN, no problem at all.

The terms "out of body experience" and "astral projection" are definitions for what is essentially the same thing.  There are of course differences, hence the reason for two terms made. But these differences are subject to individual interpretations. What one person may call an Astral Projection, another may call an Out of Body Experience.   I would perhaps recommend to try and forget about the specific terms and labels for the experiences you have, and just take each experience as it comes.  Log them all down, read back on them, and perhaps you will eventually realise your own model of these non physical experiences.

I once had an Out of Body experience. I was aware I was in my room, and I decided to go to my girlfriends place. Instantly i became aware that I was at my girlfriends house, in her room.  She was asleep in the bed. Though I never properly saw her.  I was fully concious and aware. I was trying to communicate with her. Actually told her I loved her (awwwww!). Then I noticed her laptop, and for some reason it seemed a good idea to try and skype myself a message.. Now of course that didnt work. Her laptop was a physical thing and I wasnt.  I dunno, I think I wanted to leve some proof I was there!  I did notice however that her bedside table, wasnt the same one that is really there.  Infact there was a huge chest of drawers there instead.

I saw her the next day and told her about the experience.  She was actually in bed asleep at this time.  She asked if I saw her cat as her cat was on her bed all night.... Umm nope I didn't.  She also said her laptop was in the living room.  She didn't have any experience, or awareness of me being there. She didnt recall any dream about me.  Basically as far as she was concerned, it was a normal night.

This threw huge doubt to me whether it was a real time projection. Did I actually go to her room?  Or did I just think about her, and my mind fabricated a copy of her room?  My laptop stays in my room with me at night, and my cat doesnt. So the same had been applied in the projection experience.

As you can see, the whole thing is hugely complicated, and very subjective.  Its easy to be fooled also about where you actually are. 
If your aim is real time projection, then I would recommend you try the card trick (and ensure you can repeat it).
There is plenty of resource about this. But basically, place a random playing card upright out of view of where you are sleeping.  Have an out of body experience, goto the card.. read it.. wake up.. write it down.. go check if you got it right. Some people have claimed success with this.  I haven't.

Greytraveller

Hallo ADJIN
In reply to your question
QuoteSo my question is, was this an OBE?
My answer is YES, it was!
Your experience was very similar to thousands of other first time OBEs.
Another question
QuoteAnd also i haven't been doing any chakra meditations, is it necessary?
No, actually. Yet any type of meditation (or energy work, yoga, martial arts, etc) will help both mentally and physically. It is really up to you. My recommendation is to try a few things (simple visual meditation to start maybe) and then stay with whatever 'feels' right.
Regarding an OBE versus an astral projection. Different people have different definitions. Mine are
OBE is when the consciousness (soul, spirit, etc) separates from the physical body and travels to a location (familiar or unfamiliar) that Does have a physical counterpart in the physical world (example your house, Yankee Stadium, Golden Gate Bridge, etc.).
Astral Projection is when the consciousness separates from the physical body and travels to a location that does NOT have a physical counterpart.

Hope this helps  8-)
Grey

AJDIN

Woo thanks for the reply Boom and Greytraveller,

I understand where your both coming from and Grey is right about people having coming to different conclusions on what an OBE and a AP is,

And that story about your girlfriend Boom , earlier that week i had an AP where i was out of my body and i was in my house, except all the beds were missing, thought that was pretty weird.... what if that AP is somewhere in the past, or the future? Or maybe just the fabrication of the mind

Ima try that card trick out very soon Boom, see how i go ;)

Take it easy guys