Out of Body Experience: An Entrance Into Another Life?..

[omcasey]

October 21-22, 2011

It is my day off and I am laying in late to see what I can bring through.
Sleep is interrupted 4 times in the night- total sleep time prior to the following is 9 1/2 hours

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I am feeling a particular sensation I relate with shifting, it may be in the family of sleep paralysis but nothing like the full physically experienced event many people go through.  It is being felt from the expanded state and is something like a magnetic pull.  It is firm but not forceful and very pleasant.  I feel myself shift from the physically experienced body to the vibrationally experienced body.  Sounds move clean through me, causing ripples of activity in the same way as stones thrown into a pond.  After about an hour I find myself surfacing inside.

Tactile sensations abound, there is no visual imagery yet but I am aware I am in the front bathroom on the floor in front of the commode.  I feel hands slide the length of either side of my spine, over my butt and down the backside of my legs while the voice of Thomas Campbell fades in mid-sentence, and continues on for a sentences more.  I am so captured by the hands and the voice being of someone I know that the details of what is being said are not retained beyond this point.  I do hear them, but lose them immediately as the experience continues.  The next sensation feels like hundreds of hands rummaging through me at my center.  I hear myself non-verbally "..it is too much, I don't know what this is, what is happening?".  Immediately I am taken under.

From what I non-visually perceive as a long, rectangular shaped room I find myself in a mass of happenings.  It takes me awhile to go through it into something specific.  I come across a group, or cluster, within which a certain trio, a woman and two men are becoming highlighted.  I am coming in on their conversation.  One of the men fades in mid-sentence "......then why do we lose so many of us due to insurance reasons" he says.  And then, non-verbally from another "It's such a waste"..  This latter is in regard not only to what the previous man said, but also to the left-over belongings that pile up in this area, never/rarely to be used or seen again.

The trio is working with me, but they are having casual, at least somewhat unrelated conversation- the way we do ourselves at times when we are at work.  So I am aware of multiple environments, the room where I am being worked with and a few others arising from within the conversation.  In the middle of this, from nowhere I hear myself think "Thomas Campbell", and the voice of Thomas Campbell again fades in.  This time he is addressing a question and is explaining -[something]- as it is related to government.  Again, I am so taken by the fact that the rising thought hooked me right up, so immediately, the details of what is said become lost. 

I feel myself becoming agitated- I am with the trio pronouncedly again yet it is like they are working while not even acknowledging my presence.  Like a surgeon who is solely focused on the task, and not the person.  I feel it important to alert them to my presence.  So they give appropriate care and consideration.  I focus very strongly on this and begin to feel the sensation of pushing my face through, until I come eye-to-eye with the woman.  I have full visuals now.  The woman is young, slight/petite with medium blonde hair.  For reasons unknown to me her back teeth (the upper molars) are coming to the fore of my attention.  It is almost like they are painted in the way fingernails are painted, in french manicure style.  The teeth are small, even, clean, porcelain-like.

With no surprise on the woman's part at all, without blinking or skipping a beat she looks right into me and says in a kind voice "God you really love him, don't you?".  With a good deal of focus, to remain neutral and pronounce well / be clear I put through the question "Who?".  The woman says "R____y Brown".  I think for a moment and say "Do you mean Charlie Brown?"  She searches and quickly comes back "........no, I mean the man, Rodney Brown".  I say "I have not yet met a Rodney Brown".  "Well we'll see", she says, and then to the others "Come on, we've got to get the baby in(side)".  During this time it has felt we were in the back of a car, and that we are going into the house now.  With this I shift back into the physical.



Question:
Was this an entrance into another life?  Was I going in after someone? -(interesting).  Many questions.


Notes:

Last night before going to bed, in the mix of everything else running through my mind I was remembering one of my first out of body experiences, where the voice of Graham Hancock was used.  I was thinking how this worked to get my attention, because he has such a commanding voice.  Easy to remember.  At the time, I am also listening to a talk given by Thomas Campbell that is uploaded to his youtube page.  I was thinking he, too, has a commanding, easy to remember voice.  As I laid down to go to bed, as I do most nights I closed my eyes and put through the questions I would like answered during the night.  The principle question this night being "Why do I often not remember details of conversations had while consciously out of body?"  I said I would like a remedy to this, and be able to bring full awareness of dialogue back through with me to the physical.  This morning's experience goes a long way in answering this for me.

[Greytraveller]

Greetings omcasey
From the description of the location that you visited out of body it is possible that the place is some type of non-physical learning center, perhaps in a belief system territory (BST)(or in a focus 27). Your description of this place is consistent with other 'travelers' who have been to that location, or others similar to it.
Several well known authors have reported being to non-physical places that were apparently either education or healing centers. Both Robert Monroe and Bruce Moen have written of such places.
The one thing that I am unsure about is the presence of Thomas Campbell. Did you actually see him there? or was it only his voice as if on a CD or tape?

Regards 
Grey

[c0sm0nautt]

Interesting experience. I often come across the unfortunate phenomena of not being able to remember the context of conversations in the non-physical. I think this is because all of this experience has trouble reintegrating into the physical-mind level of reality. If I lay still in bed after an experience I can almost attract the memories back to me. 

[omcasey]

Hi Grey,

Thanks for your input!, I posted this one here hoping to get some..  There are generally so many layers perceived in my experiences the many details are challenging to bring through.  Some of them come through easy, because the bulk of my attention is resting in that particular layer, but the rest can be like whisps, both during the event and after.  This experience is a really good example.

In considering your reply, and then re-reading what I wrote from this idea alot more came through.  I can see how linking the two men and the woman was perhaps premature.  The woman.... she was able access data about me and charlie brown, determine Cb was my dog and come back with a consistent reply in like a second.  So she was something deeper than a belief system resident (unless they can do this?, I dunno).  I could tell this by the feeling of her, but our brief conversation is good supporting evidence.  Would you say? 

The overall feeling running through me during the experience was that I was in the readying stages for a particular life experience.  It felt like the woman (or what I was perceiving as a woman) had no direct PMR experience.  The energy coming through her when she said what she did about me really loving this Rodney Brown is hard to put in words, but in an attempt, perhaps a gentle, grounded blending of Innocence/awe/knowing/love..  There was also the very clear feeling of this life experience being in what I (Casey) would perceive as the future.

The Thomas Campbell bits were principally audio, I am pretty sure his voice was being used to get my attention, and to help answer the question about bringing more dialogue from my experiences back into the physical.  This is where I like what you see about the BST, because I had asked for a remedy to this, and can see how something stuck in me as a belief, potentially getting in the way was possibly being addressed.  This could align with the 'hundreds of hands rummaging through my center'.  I'll sit with this, and ask more as I lay down to sleep tonight.  Thanks, again, for your reply.

[omcasey]

Interesting experience. I often come across the unfortunate phenomena of not being able to remember the context of conversations in the non-physical. I think this is because all of this experience has trouble reintegrating into the physical-mind level of reality. If I lay still in bed after an experience I can almost attract the memories back to me. 

Hi c0sm0nautt,

As a thought, maybe we just put verbal dialogue in our 'least important' box, so that we can bring through deeper elements of the experience in a way that have more staying power within us.  It's sort of what I see about myself.  This said, after a couple years now of regular, consistent OBEs (2-5x a week), and the capacity to bring through multiple layers within experiences [I can maintain awareness of as many as 3 distinct environments simultaneously] I think I would like to be able add the dialogue, more of the dialogue to what I am able to bring back through to the physical.  At least in some instances.  The ones where the dialogue would not add to any existing confusion.  Gonna give it a go!

[Lionheart]

 If you get into the habit of writing everything you experienced during your session down you will train your mind to remember even the smallest details. You likely will normally remember the important details, which I deem the message or lesson of that session. When you Phase to the Astral, ask questions, you will see that people/guides are most happy to oblige.
Good Luck and Safe Journeys! 

[Volgerle]

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/trouble_remembering_lucid_dreams-t33962.0.html;msg280410#msg280410

maybe it helps, it helped me a lot quite a few times

[c0sm0nautt]

Hi c0sm0nautt,

As a thought, maybe we just put verbal dialogue in our 'least important' box, so that we can bring through deeper elements of the experience in a way that have more staying power within us.  It's sort of what I see about myself.  This said, after a couple years now of regular, consistent OBEs (2-5x a week), and the capacity to bring through multiple layers within experiences [I can maintain awareness of as many as 3 distinct environments simultaneously] I think I would like to be able add the dialogue, more of the dialogue to what I am able to bring back through to the physical.  At least in some instances.  The ones where the dialogue would not add to any existing confusion.  Gonna give it a go!

That's very impressive! Can I ask how you developed the ability to have some many OBEs? Is it just something that comes with practice or do you think one needs to be spiritually read for such frequency? Also - Do you practice meditation?

[Greytraveller]

Hallo omcasey
Just one or two quick thoughts here.
Those "whisps" of layers you referred to are, probably more times than not, incomplete memory. I find it Much easier to remember those parts of an OBE that are closest to a waking physical world experience. And I tend to forget those experiences that are truly ethereal or other worldly, Of course there are always exceptions but, in general, this is most likely the case.
Thought transference (mind reading, telepathy, ESP, etc). is quite common in non-physical locations. So it could be that those people Did read your mind, especially as cb is still important to you.
The Rodney Brown thing might be a case of those people erroneously trying to read your mind and coming up with misinformation. 

Regards 
Grey

[blis]

Hi Casey,

Good to see you posting here again.

Just a random thought since you seem like the sort of person who could do this. Do you think if you were to perhaps keep some of your awareness in the physical you might remember dialogue better. Like maybe the part of your brain responsible for language isnt active enough.

[omcasey]

Thanks for the replies, Lionheart and Volgerie, I agree with all of that.

That's very impressive! Can I ask how you developed the ability to have some many OBEs? Is it just something that comes with practice or do you think one needs to be spiritually read for such frequency? Also - Do you practice meditation?

c0sm0naut,

My experiences began spontaneously a little over a couple years ago.  As they continued, gradually it was left more and more up to me whether to continue being conscious of them.  My choice was not just to continue being conscious, here and there as the experiences happened, but to be conscious of the wider reality activity more and more full time.  It was not long before I began parallel processing multiple layers at once, principally from the NP but now even from physical matter reality as well.  So I think it is what we choose that brings us to where we are, in this, and in all that we do.  As well as the energy we bring to it.  And the consistency with which we bring it.  I know that at least in my case, my system was MADE ready for my choice.  And continues to be made ready as my choice grows / includes more.  I am a predominantly quiet person, I lead what could be called a meditative lifestyle.  There were years of formal meditation practice as well, but in large part it has been a casual inclination, to wake early, for example, and sit quietly.  To sit looking out a window, contemplating.  To nap, even, not necessarily falling asleep.  Things like this.  What about you?

[omcasey]

Hi Casey,

Good to see you posting here again.

Just a random thought since you seem like the sort of person who could do this. Do you think if you were to perhaps keep some of your awareness in the physical you might remember dialogue better. Like maybe the part of your brain responsible for language isnt active enough.

Hiya bliss!

Yes once I'm there, awareness of the physical layer doesn't get in my way.  It is often included in my experiences but I'm not sure this has ever resulted in more dialogue coming through.  I will have to pay more attention now that I've got this on my docket.  Thank you for the suggestion. 

[omcasey]

Hallo omcasey
Just one or two quick thoughts here.
Those "whisps" of layers you referred to are, probably more times than not, incomplete memory. I find it Much easier to remember those parts of an OBE that are closest to a waking physical world experience. And I tend to forget those experiences that are truly ethereal or other worldly, Of course there are always exceptions but, in general, this is most likely the case.
Thought transference (mind reading, telepathy, ESP, etc). is quite common in non-physical locations. So it could be that those people Did read your mind, especially as cb is still important to you.
The Rodney Brown thing might be a case of those people erroneously trying to read your mind and coming up with misinformation. 

Regards 
Grey

Thanks again, Grey..

The vast majority of my experiences are multi-layered, the bulk of my attention, in most cases (definitely this one) goes straight for the deepest.  Into what is almost pure feeling [what I call waveform] more than anything else.  From here, it is almost a second thought to surface in subsequent layers, for data my conscious mind can interpret and make words out of.  I am a bit slow on the draw to do this but I somehow do manage to do it.  Fortunately I am principally informed from the pure feeling layer, so not often am I coming into information that boxes me in while I am in there.  That takes my attention so fully off the connection being experienced within myself that the event becomes objective (ie: something outside myself).  I do not necessarily, immediately know details about those I come across, but it does seem I feel where they are coming from.  But as I say this, who knows.  Too many possibilities and unknowns to say for sure.  I felt the woman along the line of what some people might term an angel.  So for me it was nice.  Regardless of anything else that might be perceived as true through the layers.

[c0sm0nautt]

c0sm0naut,

My experiences began spontaneously a little over a couple years ago.  As they continued, gradually it was left more and more up to me whether to continue being conscious of them.  My choice was not just to continue being conscious, here and there as the experiences happened, but to be conscious of the wider reality activity more and more full time.  It was not long before I began parallel processing multiple layers at once, principally from the NP but now even from physical matter reality as well.  So I think it is what we choose that brings us to where we are, in this, and in all that we do.  As well as the energy we bring to it.  And the consistency with which we bring it.  I know that at least in my case, my system was MADE ready for my choice.  And continues to be made ready as my choice grows / includes more.  I am a predominantly quiet person, I lead what could be called a meditative lifestyle.  There were years of formal meditation practice as well, but in large part it has been a casual inclination, to wake early, for example, and sit quietly.  To sit looking out a window, contemplating.  To nap, even, not necessarily falling asleep.  Things like this.  What about you?

I try and live the contemplative life, but some days I find myself spending a lot more time playing video games or a similar action than, say, meditating. When I was in high school I used to play computer games for 8 hours a day - it was a way for me to escape reality. In college, a couple years back, I sunk into a dark night of the soul which led me too all this fringe stuff. I'm a work in progress I guess. I love to read about all of this OBE and Enlightenment stuff and have had out-of-this-world experiences, but I find myself getting caught up in "the system" more than I'd like.

I feel like I am torn between becoming an actor, like a protester on Wall St., and someone who sees all of this human drama from a more spiritual perspective. Sometimes I feel like life is a cruel joke. Other times I am very blissful and am happy to be alive. Life is interesting thus far so I will just go with the flow. I really hope there is something to this 2012 stuff and life moves into a more loving direction.  

Thank your for the reply. I find the methods and daily activities of people who are successful at projecting very interesting. Have you drawn any conclusions about if life has any meaning?

[omcasey]

Sorry for the delay in replying, c0sm0naut,

But interestingly, the reason is somewhat related to the OBE relayed above ~~

I feel myself becoming agitated- I am with the trio pronouncedly again yet it is like they are working while not even acknowledging my presence.  Like a surgeon who is solely focused on the task, and not the person.  I feel it important to alert them to my presence.  So they give appropriate care and consideration.  I focus very strongly on this and begin to feel the sensation of pushing my face through, until I come eye-to-eye with the woman.  I have full visuals now.  The woman is young, slight/petite with medium blonde hair.  For reasons unknown to me her back teeth (the upper molars) are coming to the fore of my attention.  It is almost like they are painted in the way fingernails are painted, in french manicure style.  The teeth are small, even, clean, porcelain-like.

Six days after this particular out of body, in relation to the sentences in bold, I got a toothache in the area of my upper, left molars, which escalated to the point of me going to the dentist three days later and having to have my backmost, upper left molar pulled.  Two days after this, to complete the picture, I find myself in one of those nail places in Santa Monica down near the beach, getting what?, a french manicure.  Which never in my almost half century life have I ever done. 

In my experiences, I am often given information in advance.  But I generally do not know how the information will play out in physical reality.  Often I do not even catch that it has, because my experiences are so regular.  The ones from days ago are no longer at the front of my awareness.  The only reason I caught this one is I came back here, saw your reply, re-read my original post and there it was.  It always blows my mind when the PMR match pops up.

About conclusions to life having any meaning..
I am very far away from any conclusion , I am in the baby stages of existence, myself, but where I am 'idea-wise', is that the meaning, or purpose of life is to EXPERIENCE, this is it, it's this simple (to me right now, haha).  There does not appear, to me, to be any inherent right or wrong, or good or bad to the event of experiencing, there is just experience.  It is collected, and helpful in raising the quality of our consciousness.  In this, I am very much aligned with Tom Campbell, who in scientific terms is saying the very same thing the yogis and other spiritual traditions have said through the ages.  What of you?, what is your current idea of life having meaning.