I find it MUCH easier to achieve trance/OOBE without the use of a pillow. That is just my preference, I get too distracted/uncomfortable and it is one less thing to worry about. Your body is also in a 'flatter' more natural position, but experiment and see what works for you.
I think it must be very subjective. A pillow supports my neck and
head at a comfortable level. I've got one of those buckwheat husk
pillows that forms to my head and neck. I'm actually less
comfortable without it.
I guess we can surmise what Robert says in AD, "What works,... works."
;)
Hi
I also prefer not using pillow, though, I have had only unconscious oobes (during afternoon naps, so I used pillow those times). When I am about to consciously reach the trance state, I don't use pillow, as I experienced, it makes hard to relax my neck.
You create your limits, if you learn projecting with use of a pillow, it could be impossible to project without a pillow
Take care, and have successful obes
Pe-
As Roger sais, subjective... I use a thin pillow, without any support for my head I often can feel my heart beats in my head (what if I have two hearts, haven´t thought of that until now...) which are a bit annoying when trying to loose body awareness.. the thing is the best OBE attempt I´ve had, the first I tried actually (isn´t that weird), was when I - don´t know why - had, what do you call it, the thingie you have over you when you sleep? Anyway, I had the "thingie" you have over you when you sleep all wrapped up in a big round soft "ball" (man I can´t find the words today) on which I had my upper parts of my body rested on, so I was lying/sitting.. so one has to try alot of different positions, what works for one person, may very well not work for another...
PS. The thingie method doesn´t work better for me now though (I believe, haven´t tried it more than once since, gotta try "the thingie position" tonight once more!!) than lying plain on my back, so I can not recommend it as the "super OBE position", but hey, you are free to try, haven´t copyrighted it or anything´.. yet...
Be well// Qui-Gon
- Your focus determines your reality -
Thanks guys for your feedback. I must admit I've been using two pillows, I can still achieve the vibrations on a good day using this but I find myself becoming aware of my body knocking me out of a trance. I think I'll try it with one pillow and no pillows.
I was wondering when I lay down to attempt an OBE, would it be more effective if I used a pillow or is more effective not to use one when entering the trance state?