Proving obe

[Emine]

Salam everyone,
I have done out of body experience randomly for almost a year now and at the same time i tried to prove it while i was in what some people call the real time zone using simple methods like trying to read a piece of paper etc but it did not work out, after all those failed attempts i was wondering if there was a way to prove it.
Actually every time i do the obe i find myself in the room where i slept and my house seem almost like the original one except for some details and this lead me to think that maybe we should focus on the big picture rather than small details so i came up with a method and i want experienced obers to do it because i'm having a hard time obeing these days.
The method is very simple but may require help from other people lets get into it first of all the obers must lie in a bed that can be carried around and his eyes must be blind folded then his bed should be moved randomly around the house by someone so that the obers no more knowns in which area of the house his body is and then he sleeps and do his out of body experience and after finishing it tell the person that was helping him in his experience in which area of the house he was (in which room for example) and if he succeed in his guess he keeps repeating it for lets say 10 times so that there is not a shadow of a doubt that obe is not a mere imagination in your mind then he can move to more complex test like ( if for example we started with which room test we can move to which corner of the room test then we can do more specialization) and in case the test failed we can do a generalization like for example moving the body from one neighbourhood to another known by the obers and see if he could guess it.
sorry for my poor english and i hope its clear for you
Peace  

[David Warner]

Emine,

I want to point out to you that OBEs are not pure imagination created by the brain. I have done many years of tests with trial and error to prove this phenomenon. In the beginning I was hell bent on proving to the world and to myself it was real. If I could just have one OBE to prove and then tell the world it's validity - everyone would start believing. After awhile of many failed attempts, I gave up and started focusing on just projecting, documenting the experiences and taking them for what they were worth.

Didn't see it coming but over the course of years, OBE brought me closer to spirituality, humanitarian work, volunteer with hospice and children in Africa mentoring. Also, brought me closer to God and my religion. Enough said, once I started to give up on the validating guess what started to happen? My false awakenings and full conscious wide awake OBEs started showing the signs of proof. If it was catching glimpse of the future, family member carrying out specific action, playing card experiments, and others. I couldn't ignore or deny because of the amount of tracking that I cautiously documented in my spreadsheets.

So my advice to you and other people trying to prove OBE if its real or not. First, you have to consider that these experiences do happen, otherwise we would not be here talking about them. Secondly, prove it to yourself but don't be in a hurry. Let the validations come to you vs. chasing scientifically and proving. Trust me, it will happen. Third, and most important you have to do the work, no one will do it for you. By having other people do the experiment and report their findings, this is just a sure way to fail. Prove it to yourself not for $$, commercial, or to save the world. It would not matter if you could project, validate everytime while in OBE. Be in a scientific study, reality show, Oprah  - people will still believe it is crap, hocus pocus and call you a new age band wagon out for $$$$ get rich scheme.

To demonstrate an experience that I had awhile back, please view this posting:

Bravest Face
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/date_october_22_2007_the_bravest_face_validation-t26964.0.html

NDE
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/near_death_experiences_amp_out_of_body_experiences-t23279.0.html

Good Luck,

DW








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