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Jeff_Mash

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Originally posted by zjrules

hi sry i started a new topic,but i still dont know when im out of my body during obe (astral projection).anyone got any help?



Yeah. When you start walking through walls, then you're out.
Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
http://www.mjmmagic.com

zjrules

hi,

are obe just dreams or are they real???i want to jump into people's dreams and walk around real time.its just i dont know if its a dream or is real life happening then?

i dont know what to do when i need to get out of my body,i tried everything and nothening anyone please help.[8)]

Nay

Hi zjrules,

Might I suggest looking in the Welcome To Permanent Astral Topics?..good stuff there!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=44

Nay [;)]

Jeff_Mash

quote:
Originally posted by zjrules
are obe just dreams or are they real???


Anything you experience is real.  It's a real experience.

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i want to jump into people's dreams and walk around real time.its just i dont know if its a dream or is real life happening then?



You know, I'm a firm believer that there should be a good reason to do everything we do.  Why do you desire to jump into other people's dreams?  What is your reasoning, and what are your intentions?

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i dont know what to do when i need to get out of my body,i tried everything and nothening anyone please help.[8)]



Trying to hard will never get you out.  All you can do is prepare for it, and hope you trigger the OBE reflex to separate from your body.  I know, I know, you're going to ask, "How?"

That is where the good books come into play.  Pick up Journey's Out Of The Body.  That will keep you busy for awhile.
Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
http://www.mjmmagic.com

electricdreamer

You will know-you will know by the way you move-by the way you feel awake but know you are not...thats about as best I can describe it-keep trying and it will happen.

zjrules

i want to jump to people's dreams because i can create a nightmare to my enemies.like a freddy dream,but not killing them but scaring the hell out of them.would that be fun??anyone agree??[8D]

Nagual

Fun... nope... [B)]
Do you really have 'enemies'...?
If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?

Jeff_Mash

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Originally posted by zjrules

i want to jump to people's dreams because i can create a nightmare to my enemies.like a freddy dream,but not killing them but scaring the hell out of them.would that be fun??anyone agree??[8D]


You know, with intentions like that, I don't think you'll ever get out.

I don't know if you believe in Karma yet ("what goes around, comes around"), but I suggest you get your attitude in check, or else when you DO get out, you're going to be the one in a nightmare getting the hell scared out of you.
Keep smiling,

Jeff Mash
http://www.mjmmagic.com

Centa Five

You can use the Search utility on this website to search the forums for projection techniques as many of them are very helpful. Your purpose for projecting sounds questionable and I doubt very much if you can affect your enemies' dreams in the RTZ to further your intentions of "scaring" them while they sleep.

zjrules

hi sry i started a new topic,but i still dont know when im out of my body during obe (astral projection).anyone got any help?