Sadness and depression. Good time to project?

[Bellend_1010]

K I have been prone to random bouts of depression all my life (don't worry I not going to ramble on about myself and why) I find when I am in this "darkness" my mind "gives up" in a sense and I become very withdrawn as well as mellow/slow/quiet and my mind is just in lockdown and in a state where I don't even try and think of solutions to problems in life because I feel so bad.

Would this actually be a good time to project? lol! I may seem extreme but I think to myself when this state of mind next comes to me I can at least try and get some use out of it as I find my mind is more mellow as I just don't give a s**t about my life and whats going on around me etc. Maybe chucking on some headphones and laying back on my bed and listening to Gateway binaural beats to project
might work better when your mellowed out like this even if it is negative, you are still mellowed out.

For everybody here I am sure many agree that when you are sad or down in life with that feeling of "losing hope" your mind is more toned down and mellowed out like its temporarily "locking down" everything. Could this hold potential do you guys think for an OBE attempt? this mindset? I feel it could be valuable when normally you have a lot going on in your life with lots of things whirling around in your head which you have to do that day or next week etc but to fall into sadness often makes your mind "reset" some from your life and everything going on it.

Please give me your honest thoughts on this maybe someone here already has already taken advantage of the mindset of some sadness in their life to project. And also pls bear in mind people that if this state of mind IS useful for trying to project.....please don't upset yourself deliberately to help with your astral quest LOL!

[Dazino]

Well, I am sorry to hear of your bouts of depression. I used to have them myself, and it took a lot of change, insight, wisdom, and understanding until I was truly able to balance and heal myself.

Spirituality was one of the things that kept me going, kept my mind thinking at a higher level, and kept me doing things that would eventually help me in the long run.

Most of my experiences with the vibrational state were when I was going through a bout of depression, and my first projection happened when I was depressed. You can do it at any time, and it may just be beneficial to you mentally, if you choose to seek guidance and healing on the planes.

That being said, I do not believe depression and the mindsets that come with it are of any use spiritually or otherwise. They slow you down, drain you, un-center you, confuse you, and lead you to painful places you have to claw your way out of. The mellowness you speak of, this feeling of emptiness, of being lost, is harmful, and you should be looking to the source of it, to heal yourself rather than think about how you can use your depression as an advantage.

No matter what ways it can aid you, it is nothing compared to how a healthy mind and spirit can aid you.

[Bellend_1010]

Well, I am sorry to hear of your bouts of depression. I used to have them myself, and it took a lot of change, insight, wisdom, and understanding until I was truly able to balance and heal myself.

Spirituality was one of the things that kept me going, kept my mind thinking at a higher level, and kept me doing things that would eventually help me in the long run.

Most of my experiences with the vibrational state were when I was going through a bout of depression, and my first projection happened when I was depressed. You can do it at any time, and it may just be beneficial to you mentally, if you choose to seek guidance and healing on the planes.

That being said, I do not believe depression and the mindsets that come with it are of any use spiritually or otherwise. They slow you down, drain you, un-center you, confuse you, and lead you to painful places you have to claw your way out of. The mellowness you speak of, this feeling of emptiness, of being lost, is harmful, and you should be looking to the source of it, to heal yourself rather than think about how you can use your depression as an advantage.

So you think it benefits the chances or not? you said your first projection was when you were going through depression. While the mindsets of sadness during depressing are certainly not needed or desirable when attempting to project, would you not agree that they put your mind in a certain state of docileness? I see this as good with "letting go" therefore eliminating less outside world thoughts and interfearance. I just figure if your going to be depressed you might as well use it for something lol.

[Dazino]

No, I do not believe it can benefit anything at all. The mind is unpredictable in depression. the only reason I had my first OBE while during a depression was because I was using The gateway experience program.

It does not put your mind into docility, it puts it into chaos, and decays your spirit. If your depressed, your not letting go of anything, rather, your clinging onto something.

[Volgerle]

As I've read quite some literature about it, I can say that most authors and professionals in the field of AP advise against doing AP when you have a severe mental illness (depression can be an illness) or any other psychological problems.
This is what they say. I cannot give my own view on this, but it seems logical (also from my experience) that a more 'positive and optimistic' mindset leads to more positive experiences. And probably vice versa. So you might have not so positive projections then. And this, in turn, might affect your waking life situation again - a vicious circle, so to speak.
I don't know how severe your problem is. This is just my two cents, don't take it for granted, as I am no expert. But if I had a depression or a 'low phase' I would 'suspend' my AP activities until I feel better again.
As said, just my two little cents.

[Astral316]

I've tangled with depression for years... it's extremely difficult for me to find emotional stimulation pursuing typical physical endeavors, so I detach. The only sure way to "color" my world is when my head is up in the clouds, projecting or pondering metaphysics, nature, eastern philosophy, etc. My opinion... it's as good a time as any. My negative experiences are few and far between as well, so go for it.