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Quote from: desert-rat on September 13, 2013, 20:55:32Sam Parnia has been discussed hear before . I thought for his study he should put a Barbie, g.i. Joe doll , or gumby , in a box on a high shelf in the operating room , instead of a card . Its not some thing normaly in an operating room , and easy to remember .
Quote from: Ofen on November 04, 2013, 18:13:41I have many years experience in OBEs and did a lot of experiments in terms of verification. First I thought it must be real, because it looks so real. But everyone who do this for a longer time comes to the result: its all in your mind. There are many crazy stories around the world about obe, near death experiences. Someone will say, why should all these people lie?But you must realize, there are also many storys about ufos, nessie, big food and so on. People can lie on themselve. And sometimes, they lie for money and a little bit attention. So go to bed, start an obe and make your own experience and do not read so much stories.I hope this study will be serious and give us the results so that esoteric people can change their perception about obe s. I love this phenomenon, but reading all this bovine excrement from some esoteric people on the internet disturbes me.
Quote from: Ofen on November 05, 2013, 15:26:02@ desert As I already said, these are all just stories. I cannot understand you, you can experience your own OBE one hundred of times and proof to yourselve if its real. I guess you never had experienced such incredible stories like these people in the magazins or monroe. Why you believe these people? They could write these experiences just for money! If an autor writes a book or an article about his experiences in OBE where he writes, that nothing is magical about obes, that all is just in your mind like a dream and that is his opinion, nobody would read this.And why are so many people so naive, thinking that if someone who experienced an OBE or near dead experience, that this person must be a good person who could never lie?
Quote from: Ofen on November 05, 2013, 15:26:02And why are so many people so naive, thinking that if someone who experienced an OBE or near dead experience, that this person must be a good person who could never lie?
QuoteBut everyone who do this for a longer time comes to the result: its all in your mind.