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Quote from: Ofen on November 05, 2013, 19:08:48ps: I am not Randi, I am Ofen
Quote from: Ofen on November 06, 2013, 05:03:00"All the famous Autors..habe never come to the conclusion 'its all in your mind"As i said already, no one would read books about this phenomenon if the Autor says itsAll in your mind. This book would be boring and no one would buy it.With OBE there is a market of esotheric freaks who needs new stuff and magical stories.Monroe knew how to sell and he made a business of this phenomenon. He is like Uri Geller.
Quote from: CFTraveler on November 06, 2013, 20:39:29So many opinions.....
Quote from: Ofen on November 13, 2013, 18:43:25ok, you have a better story than mine? I know u can only prove to yourselve. I am curious what it could be, I want to listen about your experience. And dont cite any spiritual autors, share with me your own experience.If this story is good, I will tell you another story, an self-experiment I did for myselfe two times on OBE. Since then I know the power of your mind and its limitation. Since these experiments I know it is all in your mind.
Quote from: Ofen on November 14, 2013, 14:09:58I want to say that I prooved for myself and other people should also try to proove to theirselve and not just read books about how real OBEs are. The story about the bag behind the fridge might be very scary and nice to read but you should build your beliefe if OBEs can be real or not primary about your own experience in OBE.
Quote from: Ofen on November 14, 2013, 20:58:33I dont want to change my whole worldview just on stories some people experienced. If I would experience such unbelievable stories on my own, I would gonna go crazy. It would destroy my complete worldview from one day to another. I made a lot of experiments in OBE at the beginning to get to know this phenomenon better. Until now I had NEVER experienced something that would change my normal worldview. On Obe I looked at cards to see if I can read them, I remembered things, I interacted with food, Objects, with my cat, talked to my family members to see if they can remember my visit, read books in OBE. There was nothing unusual or paranormal (Just the coke story maybe but thats it).