Scaring yourself out of your body?

[Targett]

Hey guys

Is it possible to leave your body when you know you are seconds away from a very horrible death?

I had an interesting experience last night.

I was having a very vivid nightmare that i was in a plane that was crashing. I could see the ground getting closer very fast and because i was in a dream and my mind was dull, i really believed that i was about to die for real.
Then just before the plane hit the ground i got a strong sucking pressure over my whole body then about a second later i awoke completely paralysed like i get just before a projection.

I know it was during a dream and my physical body was relaxed enough for a projection, but i wonder if its possible to be scared out of your body in real life?

[Heather B.]

I've read stories, and have heard stories from personal friends and relatives of mine, about people leaving their bodies during physically traumatic events, such as crashes, assaults, rapes, attempted murders, and attacks during war.  It may be a natural defense mechanism against pain, or sort of a "head-start" into the afterlife.  It makes perfect sense to me.

Someone very dear to me died in a plane crash, and I really like to think that he left his body before having to experience the crash.  Not that he probably would have felt anything, but... it's just comforting.

[beavis]

"Horrible death" is coming! AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Run!!! Make sure you think about how much its going to hurt, and in exactly which body parts. You're on the right track to IGNORING your body and exiting it. Hahahahaha.

[Selski]

Aren't we talking about near-death experiences?  NDEs.  There's tons of information about NDEs if you google them.

Sarah

[David Warner]

Almost Mrs. Murphy,

Sorry to hear about your lost - were you ever able to reach that person in the astral to see how they are doing?

NDE,

I wonder about this and if its just something that is triggered within the brain? Kinda of like astral projections as well? I've read this last week on some NDE and the majority of them tell the experience of being 'one' and knowing everything.

Tvos

[RJA]

I've read several books on NDE's and one of them pointed out that NDE researchers often run across people who have had a "Fear-Death-Experience" - one in which they thought they were going to die and consequently left their body, saw a bright light or tunnel, dead-relative, etc.  One experience in particular that I remember being recounted in the book involved and 18-year-old soldier at boot-camp who foolishly removed the pin from what he thought was a live hand-grenade.  He accidentally dropped the grenade and thought he was going to be blown to bits.  He left his body, and had other things associated with a NDE (can't remember the exact description), even though it was in fact a "training grenade" and he was in no physical danger!  

The particular author of this book contended that these cases typically aren't reported to us in most books because the authors don't want to cast doubt on the validity of NDEs.  This author also mentioned that many who have had NDEs recount being met, not by a dead-relative, but by someone who is still alive or by a make-believe character.  Kids often reported being met by the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, etc.  

But yes, the fear-death-experience is apparently real. : )

[David Warner]

RJA,

Its interesting to see the comparisons between astral projections and near death experiences.

The soldier that had the nde had time to escape otherwise the pain would have caused suffering. I would have probably done the same thing too or maybe try to throw the grenade as far possible from anyone and everyone.

Tvos

[catmeow]

When I was a kid I fell out of a tree and on the way down was sure I was going to die. I blacked out before I hit the ground.   This is a built-in self-defense mechanism.  I'm sure that "fear-death-experiences" are real and are also a kind of built-in self-defense mechanism. Anyway, I've heard of many cases of OOB's induced by shock, fear or trauma.  Robert Crookall wrote a few books on it.

catmeow

[David Warner]

Catmeow,

I understand where you are coming from. When I was younger, a friend of mine, we were playing batman and robin. We had our capes, masks and play toys climbing the mountain ash tree (at least 50-70feet high) in the backyard. Well, needless to say that we climbed a little too high and the branch couldn't support us. -- I do remember falling and hitting branches on the way down and then with out backs hitting landing on the grassy ground. It sucked the air right out of us and eventually we will able to get our breath back.

I don't remember being scarred at all or blacking out. I would imagine if the scenario was worse, I would have probably blacked out.


But I do agree with you and reading a lot of these NDE and how people shoot out of body to avoid the pain and trauma to the physical.
Tvos

[RJA]

Catmeow,

When I was in college I tried skydiving a few times.  On my first time I had a "static line" attached to my rip cord that would automatically open my chute after I had fallen a short distance (about 80' I seem to recall) from the plane.  I was supposed to count slowly to 5 after jumping and then check to see that my chute had opened correctly.

As soon as I left the plane I blacked out and didn't regain consciousness until my chute had already opened.  The instructor, explained later, that this is not that uncommon - that the brain just "checks out".

So, I guess under certain circumstances the brain just decides to "check out a little early".

[David Warner]

RJA,

I did a tandam jump with a professional instructor 3 miles up. It was a blast and I tried t asorb every second that I could.

Its a good thing you're still here - where did you whind up landing? Were you hurt, break a leg, feel any pain?

Tvos

[RJA]

ok - so my reply to that question is 6 years late...actually I was fine.  Once my chute opened it "woke me up" and I did what I was supposed to do and had a nice little ride and a good landing.  I just missed the first 5 seconds of it all.

[catmeow]

RJA - 6 years to reply to a post - that has to be some sort of record! 

I have sky-dived too, and whilst I always thought I had absolutely no fear of heights, the sky-dive taught me otherwise. It was a tandem with an ex-SAS guy strapped to my back who did all the chute opening stuff.  But steppping out of a perfectly good plane at a height of 10,000 feet makes you "lose composure"!

[RJA]

RJA - 6 years to reply to a post - that has to be some sort of record! 

I have sky-dived too, and whilst I always thought I had absolutely no fear of heights, the sky-dive taught me otherwise. It was a tandem with an ex-SAS guy strapped to my back who did all the chute opening stuff.  But steppping out of a perfectly good plane at a height of 10,000 feet makes you "lose composure"!

AND I'mmmmmm back!  This time after 7-8 years!  Anyway, yes - I'm older now and my kid wants to skydive or hang glide (I did that for awhile in my 20s) but I've told her I wouldn't do it again - I don't like heights much now. I suppose if I didn't have a wife and kids I might, but I was never convinced that skydiving or hang gliding was particularly safe.