Sigh im convinced i'll never OBE

[Violet]

Dear TimeWalker,

This might sound odd but perhaps you are trying too hard. When we are trying at something often we are not really as relaxed as we think.  I would recommend you keep trying but that you try not expecting any experience.  Take the pressure off so to speak.

Do the excercises more to just energize yourself to help yourself feel good.  Also you might try praying for something you think is beneficial.  Often when we pray for something helpful like praying and visualizing for something good (my personal favorite is the healing of Mother Earth and the environment) more energy is sent to us to help achieve this goal.  This extra energy not only helps (i.e. Mother Earth) but helps us as well as a side benefit.  Doing something like this regularly helps raise our energy levels and this in turn helps us to more easily project.  I also find that the higher your energy levels are before projecting not only the easier it is to project but the smoother the transition is.  I find I occassionally hear a little whizzing sound now but other than that I would almost not be able to tell.  I no longer feel like I am suddenly in a free fall or the like.  Everything in its time.

Light and Love to the One and All,
Violet  
 

[BrianA]

Hi Timewalker,

Like you, I also haven't yet had an OBE and am working towards it.  Although, it sounds like you've had at least some success!!

If it's any consolation, everything that I've read about achieving OBEs suggests that 5 months or longer is not all that unusual for people to have to practice.

One thing that I tell myself is that: Every night, I'm already OBE'ing!  Even tonight, I'm going to have an OBE, I'll just probably be asleep for it. The trick is to just keep my mind awake as my body falls asleep, and the OBE will happen on its own.

Also, beware that your subconscious mind might take the title that you used for this thread literally, like an affirmation.  You might want to try countering it with new affirmations.  I don't want to belittle your frustration -- it's just that your subconscious mind is key to acheiving OBEs.

Brian

[TimeWalker]

yeah maybe i am trying to hard. I get the concept of body asleep mind awake. i always get to the point where im totally numb, so im guessing thats where my body is asleep, but it always seems like my head is stuck. maybe i should get in the mindset that im just going to go to sleep but dont fall asleep...but anyway from the sounds of it, you basically have to let yourself fall asleep but know how to catch yourself falling sleep right before your 100% asleep then try some technique like the rope? The funny thing is that when i was a little younger i would have spontaneous obes every so often so i know its possible. Its just the whole counsiouss projection thing...ok anyway im done rambling

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Time is merely a perception.

[Violet]

Dear TimeWalker,

I have another idea. I do not know if you have the luxury to try this but if you do then try sleeping a very long time like 12-14 hours.  When you wake up after over sleeping often you feel "tired from over sleeping".  Usually when a person falls back to sleep after a long sleep it is much easier to retain consciousness.  As a teenager I loved oversleeping and had many more OBEs (that I was consciously aware of) back then then I do now.  I still have lots of OBEs I think I just only have a very few that I stay conscious for these days.  

Love and Light to the One and All,
Violet

[TimeWalker]

Well ive been working toward OBE'ing for close to 5 months now and the closest thing i got to vibrations was one night when i woke in at around 4 in the morning. it felt like my whole body was shaking like crazy. at the time i knew what was happening so i went with it. The next thing that happened was i was floating someone near this huge circle of multi colored lights. kinda like a giant ferris wheel but instead of cabins, there were balls of light. This lasted about 10 mintues then everything stopped and i promptly wrote everything down in my journal. since then i have not had any experiences with vibrations. ive done everything i thought i needed to but still not consious exit yet Whenever i attempt to project i can get very relaxed and i clear my mind totally but i never project? I have done NEW, relaxing techniques, mind taming, etc etc...does anyone have any suggestions on how to induce the vibrations? Again im 99% sure im doing everything right (apparently not) but never any results. Any suggestions?

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Time is merely a perception.