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Lumaza

 Years ago on this very Forum a valued member and friend of ours named Bedeekin wrote this fantastic thread here. In it, he explained everything a person needed to know about Sleep Paralysis. You can find that link at this thread here:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

What brought me to this Forum years ago under my former name "Lionheart" was a 3 night in a row Sleep Paralysis experience of my own. The first night I awoke in SP, I was frightened like many other people are when they awoke in SP. The next day, I dismissed it as a Dream and that was that. That is until the next night when I once again awoke in SP. This time it was more intense and yet once again, the next day I dismissed it as "just a Dream". The next night, I could not ignore because of after the intense experience with SP, I was left with physical signs of it. I awoke after the third night and my right eye was swollen shut and I had intense "inner vibrations" that are very difficult to explain. I was very concerned, so I made a appt with my family Doctor. By the time I finally had my appt, which was about 4 days later, my eye had healed up, so there was no evidence of the swollen eye at all. While the eye was swollen, there was a very noticeable rectangular indentation in the swelling. Neither Mary Jo, my wife, nor I thought of taking a picture of it. We weren't all that tech savvy back then. I have adapted to the times now and am a bit more knowledgeable of the tech stuff today. I had to adapt. I guess everyone does.

So, it was onto my Doctor's visit and soon a number of tests, both Neurological and Physical to find out the why I was feeling the inner vibrations. Everything came out negative. There was no logical reason why. My Doctor did say something that really caught my attention though. I don't know if he said it jokingly or seriously, but he said, "I think you may have undergone some kind of frequency change". He also said "you didn't hear that from me". I'm sure his peers would not have concluded that.

After that whole experience, I made a post on Web.Md about what had happened to me. Soon a few other people shared their stories, and one person gave me the link to the AstralPulse.com and here I am still today.

Bedeekin's thread was very thorough with the whys, whats and other physically based explanations of SP. But it didn't answer it all. Through the years I have heard, on Talk Radio Shows and Podcasts, people that called in to explain their own SP experiences. Usually it is fear based and has either Demons or Aliens attached to it. Many of the abduction cases we hear about today could in fact be bouts of SP. Just the same, many of the SP cases could also be actual abductions. You can think of it that way too. That's what they have done in much of the UFO community today. Supposedly, even the Gov't today and is taking a serious look at the phenomenon.

In my case, the vibrations simmered down after about 3 weeks. Through the years they have ramped up again. The only understanding I received from anyone was from a talk with the late Dolores Cannon on her personal Radio show. She told me "you can always ask them to calm them down when they get overpowering". I tried that and it worked!  :-o

Through the years, I have attempted to learn everything I could about SP. But from my own personal ones. That is the only way I could personally understand what was happening. I learned that you could passively observe them and when you did it would "usually", but not always, lead to some kind of OBE. I have awoken in SP and passively observed as I was lifted by my ankles and spun through my ceiling, like some kind of spinning toy. I have awoken in full SP and been dragged by my ankles down my hallways and out my patio window. For some reason, for quite a while this was a reoccurring experience. One time while listening to the Coast to Coast AM Radio show there was Guest named Whitley Strieber on it. He was explaining one of his abductions and he talked about being lifted by his ankles and dragged out of his bed and out his window. When i heard this, I almost spit out my coffee. Until that time, I had never heard anyone talk about having that kind of experience. Since then, I have spoken to a few other people that have had that happen as well. Some of those people are members here on the Astral Pulse Forums too.

Now to the reason I am creating this thread here today. I always "just when I think I know what is happening, things change" and that is exactly what happened last night.

Before I get into what occurred I need to give a bit of run up to this time. I have been working on making my Crystal Amplifiers (wire wrap tree sculptures) for weeks now. I have been selling them at various Renaissance and Craft fairs around the USA. I would put a few hours into my work and them find myself physically exhausted. The air quality is Minnesota and Wisconsin (where i have done all my shows) has been horrible for months now. They are blaming it on the Canadian Wildfires, but I beg to differ. I have been working outside all day and then sleeping in my truck at the shows. So, there is no way to get away from it. The other day, I mowed my lawn and built a fence around some plants n my garden. After that, I was exhausted. I had to lay down and take a nap for awhile.

Yesterday, I did a bit of work outside and once again, was just exhausted. I then went for a soak in my bathtub and after that took a long nap. I went to bed at about 11PM. Lately I have been feeling really out of it.

I awoke sometime during the night and heard what sounded like footsteps creaking on the floor. I was having a really restless sleep. I wear foam earplugs when I sleep. I like quiet. I have really good hearing though. So once in a while I can still hear noises. My dog was also next to me on the bed. He sleeps in the spot that Mary Jo used to (Mary Jo passed way last year). My Dog didn't react to the noise, so I thought nothing of it. Just an old house creaking. Soon SP kicked in and I went into my passively observing mode. I was awaiting the OBE to commence. But none came. The vibrations were getting stronger and soon it felt like I was being violently rocked out of my skin. I attempted to utilize the "thoughts equals reality". When you awaken in SP, your thoughts become your reality instantly. That is why there are so many fear stories related to SP. People awaken in SP, can't move, then there first thought is "who is holding me down". That's usually when Freddy from Nightmare on Elm Street or some other fearsome creature, demon appears.

So, I immediately began visualizing my "happy place". Mine being a tranquil tropical Island setting. But that didn't work this time either. I was still in the throes of the violent SP. I then said to myself, enough of this and I attempted to abort the SP. I tried to wiggle my toes, but once again failed. The vibrations were the strongest I had ever felt, and it felt like they were lasting for an eternity. Then I felt my back being supported. It felt like there was someone or something supporting my back. I could have been lying on some kind of table as well. The vibrations and feeling of something hard against my back kept going until it all abruptly stopped, and I saw at the foot of my bed Mary Jo standing there. I was completely conscious of that moment. I said to her that I had some questions for her. She said she knew and that she would be back in a moment. She then turned around and left the room and I was left in darkness. The experience ended then and there. I was left just consciously staring into the darkness before my closed eyes. I knew that when she had left the room, that the experience was over and that's exactly what happened.

Like I said above, for some reason I was actually stuck in the SP. That has never happened to me before. I have learned throughout the years had to control my SP. But last night for some reason, that wasn't allowed to happen. I also feel like the image of Mary Jo that I saw wasn't actually her. That that image was being utilized by someone as something I would not fear. I have never experienced such violent vibrations before. They were even stronger the earthquake ones I felt during a fully aware candle staring technique I used years ago. The difference there was those vibrations were outer. Last night's vibrations were "inner". Today I still feel them, but quite a bit calmer. I guess I am back to having these inner vibrations again. I wonder how long they will last for this time.  :?
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

LightBeam

I guess we never stop experiencing new things. Just when we think we know. If you felt that Mary Jo's image was someone else then that may be right, because typically our inner instincts give us the correct information, as long as we set aside any fear.
I've had so many SPs of different vibratory intensity. Most of my APs start with SP. Maybe because this is the way I prefer, because I have greater awareness and my experiences last longer when the vibrations are intense. Afterall, we chose how and what to experience.

I think that's exciting. Keep us posted if this trend continues. Maybe next time you can ask to understand the nature of these strong vibes and who was behind Mary Jo's image.

Speaking of Dolores Cannon. I took her QHHT hypnosis class and now I am a level 1 certified practitioner. But I learned soooooo much interesting information during the class about how can we call the higher self during theta state with a guided hypnotist, learn about other lives, heal instantly, etc. The class was online with many hours of recorded teachings from Dolores when she had done one of the life classes when she was alive. Now her daughter Julia Cannon is carrying on the teaching. By the way anyone who is on Facebook can follow Dolores Cannon's page. Julia and Kaya have a weekly live session every Friday and they discuss all kinds of spiritual topics. I must say their perspective is right on point and resonates with everything I know and believe. But having a large group of people participating in these conversations truly make you feel that there are so many people awakening and that we are not alone. Even though this forum is so slow, the platform itself may feel outdated for people and they dont initiate discussions anymore. On social media I see so many pages of spiritual nature with millions of followers and discussions. I feel optimistic about the future of Earth.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Lumaza

 Thanks for the speedy reply Lightbeam. I will pass on experiencing this again. I swear my "etheric body" is still in pain today, lol.  :-D It actually felt like I was being bounced all over the bed. Where is a "webcam" when you need one, lol!

After last night's experience I was seriously and still am seriously considering finding a certified QHHT pro in my area to do a regression. I have a feeling there is a story to tell here. I know it didn't end where I thought it did. It continued, but on a level that I was not "consciously aware" of.  I do seem to have a lot more energy today though.

Do you have the link to Dolores's facebook page? I was kind of forced to get my own page to be able to find shows in my area. The show Promoters don't advertise on Google anymore. Nowadays, you find all that info in Groups that you have become a member of. Just another way I was forced to adapt.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

LightBeam

Oh yes, sometimes we need to out our foot down and say that's enough lol.
I have also tried Dolores suggestion to tune down the frequency, especially when I am experiencing strong tinnitus. The superconsciousness explains that this is fine tuning, but if we think the energy flow is too strong we can give a command to tone it down. In the opposite if we feel too disconnected, we can say "Up, Up", imagine the raise and increase or frequency.

Here is the FB page of Dolores. If you click on the videos you can see the library of archive of 120 videos of Julia and Kaya. each vide has a topic on the description. choose a topic you like and watch the video. Let me know what do you think. Julia sometimes has a hard time with words because she is receiving images from, but Kaya is so good explaining everything to the point in a manner that is understandable.

I have not had a session myself, but I will sign up for one of the in person companion classes where level 1 practitioners can practice on each other to gain experience. I dont know how successful it will be me being the hypnotist or having a session done by a level 1, but there is no danger. At some point I will have a level 3 practitioner conduct a session for me. These are quite expensive, but the healing and answering of many questions is absolutely priceless. The level 1 practitioner interns should not charge to do sessions but they are less experienced, but the course is so extensive, Dolores explains everything so well, that level 1 are well prepared. You can search to find a practitioner on Dolores official online page. If we lived closer I would do a session for free to anyone who wishes.

https://www.facebook.com/DoloresCannonOfficial
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Volgerle

Quote from: LightBeam on July 18, 2023, 17:30:09
If we lived closer I would do a session for free to anyone who wishes.
Lightbeam, Have you considered doing QHHT sessions online via Skype or Zoom? Multitudes of practitioners already do it. I know that Dolores Cannon discouraged it for QHHT for some (more or less understandable) reasons, so it is not 'allowed'. However I have seen QHHT practitioners who do it also online anyway with some modifications. One of them is Laron whom I know from the Transients/Roundtable forum (actually he is the owner of that forum). Here is from his website: https://laron.nz/past-life-regression-qhht/

Btw, I do a similar modality named BQH which is based entirely on QHHT with some modifications. I am (after I finished the course and just did another general hypnosis class) still in the practice training phase for it right now - unfortunately with breaks and delays due to private and motivational reasons.
But from what I know from the vast community there, practitioners and students training with each other doing session swaps etc., it works very well online after you get used to it. Of course, it is not for everyone, some like it more or feel more 'safe' when in person.
For those willing to do it online, for BQH it is indeed 'permitted' to do internet sessions as well as in person. There is almost a 50/50 ratio now. I will do them even exclusively when I am ready, also free sessions for practice (whoever is interested contact me via pm and we can plan a free session for the future).

LightBeam

Quote from: Volgerle on July 20, 2023, 15:32:32

Lightbeam, Have you considered doing QHHT sessions online via Skype or Zoom?

hi Volgerle, I trust Dolores' judgement that remote QHHT sessions should not be allowed. First, the client will not feel safe enough to go under if the hypnotherapist is not in the room to assist if needed. Some clients go under and they don't remember afterwards. They listen to their recordings and are amazed that they actually carried a conversation with the practitioner and their true super consciousness came through with the ego set aside and not interfering. These are the most successful sessions. At times, the clients would want to go to the bathroom, they are so deep under and if there is no one in the room to assist them to lead them to the bathroom, they may fall and hurt themselves. This was Dolores' experience. Also during the past life regression part many clients become very emotional because they re-live very traumatic events. Imagine the internet connection interrupts, they are crying and very much under in theta state and there is no one in the room to lead them through the next steps to lead them out of the traumatic event and to console them. In addition, the hypnotherapist voice is critical to bring the client under. Through speakers it will not have the same effect. The client also starts speaking very softly when they go under and the therapist needs to be able to hear them in order to lead the session. Even in person, the therapist sometimes needs to get super close to where the head is turned in order to be able to hear the client. In remote connection depending on which way the client will turn their head, the therapist may not be able to hear them. Sometimes the client even whispers.

I am planning to do the swap to practice with other practitioners but only in person. If I am really good, I may consider starting a side business, but the sessions will have to be in person. I don't want to risk the clients' well being. QHHT really takes them deep under to Theta, not like a typical hypnosis where they are in Alpha state.
"The problem is not the problem. The problem is your attitude about the problem."
Captain Jack Sparrow

Lumaza

 Not every single thing has to be done online these days! :roll: Dolores knew the value of "person to person" contact. That's all she needed to say. No further explanation is needed! If something isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing!  :wink:
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Nameless

Dang Lu, just when you think you have passed through one stage and moved on...
I think we would be remiss to assume SP has one cause only. I am concerned (not in a bad way necessarily) that you were restless and heard footsteps.

In my own experiences those to me are signs of a visitation. One thing you can do is think about the interval right before your SP took place. Note oddities and how you were feeling. Looking back and noting these things will help you prepare for the next round. A heads-up as it were so you can prepare your own responses and perhaps get some answers. Try to relax during SP and allow whatever 'work' is being done to happen, for me that tends to reduce the violence of vibrations and helps them smooth out.

Hugs
Remember, You came here to this physical earth to experience it in its physical form. NPR will always be there.

Lumaza

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Quote from: Nameless on July 21, 2023, 12:45:17
Dang Lu, just when you think you have passed through one stage and moved on...
I think we would be remiss to assume SP has one cause only. I am concerned (not in a bad way necessarily) that you were restless and heard footsteps.

In my own experiences those to me are signs of a visitation. One thing you can do is think about the interval right before your SP took place. Note oddities and how you were feeling. Looking back and noting these things will help you prepare for the next round. A heads-up as it were so you can prepare your own responses and perhaps get some answers. Try to relax during SP and allow whatever 'work' is being done to happen, for me that tends to reduce the violence of vibrations and helps them smooth out.

Hugs
You are correct Nameless. I feel a "visitation" did occur. I was restless, heard creaking of the floor, then my "spider sense" kicked off. I use that term because MJ and I would be somewhere, on the road travelling and all of a sudden I would get a sensation of tingling telling me that something was not right or was about to happen. It happened so often that MJ and I joked about it being my "spider sense", ala Spider Man. The "entity" left the way it came in too, through my bedroom door.  I was definitely in "intruder alert" mode. But, in Bedeekin's SP thread, the intruder scenario is spoke of as well.

I would have relaxed into it, but it caught me off guard. I was shocked that none of my "go to's" were having any effect. That in itself created a bit of fear. I have had SP quite a few times. I have some weeks where it occurs 2 or 3 times that week and as Lightbeam said above, that will normally preclude an OBE, in the true sense of words. But this time, I was "locked in" to just the violent vibrations, no visuals at all., except for solid darkness. I think that would cause an alarm to most people, even people that did occasionally experience SP I began I normally would during a SP event. I just laid back and passively observed it all. But the vibrational intensity went into warp drive, and I noticed I was "stuck" in it.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Nameless

I'm very confident you know how to handle yourself Lu. I hope your next round is more tolerable.

About that smoke, I've read others in the affected areas say it's strange to them as well. I don't know what to make of it myself, it may be normal or maybe not, I don't know. I do have a thought that may or may not be pertinent. Just the smoke itself could be creating problems with particulate matter in the air causing disruptions to more than just 'air quality' as we normally think of it. This could be making it easier or harder for certain activities to take place (I'm sure you know what I mean by that). As long as the fires keep going things could get even stranger, especially for those sensitive to the other worldy nature of our existence. Keep us posted as things progress.

Also it seems things have been going well for you at the craft fairs. Here's to you that it keeps going well.
Remember, You came here to this physical earth to experience it in its physical form. NPR will always be there.

omcasey

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QuoteI will do them even exclusively when I am ready, also free sessions for practice (whoever is interested contact me via pm and we can plan a free session for the future).

*Raises hands way up*

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yessssss. pleeeease. I volunteer. Sessions for practice. Good good!

I put out the call for an exchange like this more than a dozen years ago. Last year ( 2022 ), a young woman named Crystl ( coincidence? lol ) contacted me and we did a few sessions together. I have them up on my YouTube page but for ease of viewing/listening the whole story including video recorded sessions can be found here: https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/my-past-life-regression-work-live-recorded-session-t1898.html

We didn't really have a direction for the sessions. We were just winging it and seeing what might happen.

My range of experience might have been a bit much for someone just beginning their practice.

She had no OBE or expanded state experience.

I would love to talk with you, Vogerie, to hear what you have in mind with your own practice.

Should I PM you here?

______________


Sorry for the interruption in the dialogue, WHICH IS FASCINATING.

Reading this I was flashing back on a similar chain of events that led into my own Experiencing.

It also brings up a question. I just wonder how differently we each may experience sleep paralysis. Before delving further into that, though, I am going to go read the link in the first post.

A new leg of all this does seem to rearing its head, doesn't it?  (  here, too!  ).


Lumaza

Quote from: Nameless on July 21, 2023, 21:15:03
I'm very confident you know how to handle yourself Lu. I hope your next round is more tolerable.

About that smoke, I've read others in the affected areas say it's strange to them as well. I don't know what to make of it myself, it may be normal or maybe not, I don't know. I do have a thought that may or may not be pertinent. Just the smoke itself could be creating problems with particulate matter in the air causing disruptions to more than just 'air quality' as we normally think of it. This could be making it easier or harder for certain activities to take place (I'm sure you know what I mean by that). As long as the fires keep going things could get even stranger, especially for those sensitive to the other worldy nature of our existence. Keep us posted as things progress.

Also it seems things have been going well for you at the craft fairs. Here's to you that it keeps going well.
All I know is my throat has been scratchy for over a month now. I would leave my windows open at night, since our temps get down to about 50 degrees on some of these summer nights here. But I could still smell the smoke even in the house. For a while there, at nighttime, you could see it settling at lower altitudes. Almost at ground level. We have never had that happen in the 26 years I have lived here in Minnesota. It just doesn't feel "natural"!  :? :? :?

Thank You for your kind words Nameless!  :-)
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

Volgerle

Quote from: Lumaza on July 20, 2023, 17:39:47
Not every single thing has to be done online these days! :roll: Dolores knew the value of "person to person" contact. That's all she needed to say. No further explanation is needed! If something isn't broken, it doesn't need fixing!  :wink:
It is not about 'fixing' something that is broken because it is not broken (did I say so?). It is about optional offerings and alterntatives, so that more people (who want to) can do it.  :-)

Volgerle

Quote from: omcasey on July 21, 2023, 21:48:09
I would love to talk with you, Vogerie, to hear what you have in mind with your own practice.
Should I PM you here?
Yes, you can pm me. Just a bit of patience please because I just get rolling again starting this August (but with healing hypnosis then first which is shorter). And I have a waiting list for BQH already but it is not a long one.  :-)

Volgerle

Quote from: LightBeam on July 20, 2023, 16:10:29
hi Volgerle, I trust Dolores' judgement that remote QHHT sessions should not be allowed. First, the client will not feel safe enough to go under if the hypnotherapist is not in the room to assist if needed. Some clients go under and they don't remember afterwards. They listen to their recordings and are amazed that they actually carried a conversation with the practitioner and their true super consciousness came through with the ego set aside and not interfering. These are the most successful sessions. At times, the clients would want to go to the bathroom, they are so deep under and if there is no one in the room to assist them to lead them to the bathroom, they may fall and hurt themselves. This was Dolores' experience. Also during the past life regression part many clients become very emotional because they re-live very traumatic events. Imagine the internet connection interrupts, they are crying and very much under in theta state and there is no one in the room to lead them through the next steps to lead them out of the traumatic event and to console them. In addition, the hypnotherapist voice is critical to bring the client under. Through speakers it will not have the same effect. The client also starts speaking very softly when they go under and the therapist needs to be able to hear them in order to lead the session. Even in person, the therapist sometimes needs to get super close to where the head is turned in order to be able to hear the client. In remote connection depending on which way the client will turn their head, the therapist may not be able to hear them. Sometimes the client even whispers.

I am planning to do the swap to practice with other practitioners but only in person. If I am really good, I may consider starting a side business, but the sessions will have to be in person. I don't want to risk the clients' well being. QHHT really takes them deep under to Theta, not like a typical hypnosis where they are in Alpha state.
Yes, I understand and I heard most of the arguments before. Some are certainly valid to some degree, some others can be countered and the issues handled differently. Takes too long to explain here but nevermind, I absolutely get your viewpoint. Good luck with your practice endeavours. I am sure it will work out well for you and your clients.  8-)

omcasey

Quote from: Volgerle on July 24, 2023, 15:06:48
Yes, you can pm me. Just a bit of patience please because I just get rolling again starting this August (but with healing hypnosis then first which is shorter). And I have a waiting list for BQH already but it is not a long one.  :-)

Oh that's great!.. then you have the opportunity to practice already being lined up. No worries getting to me. If it ever lines up I will be here.

I will PM all you same and send you my contact information.

Good good.