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Quote from: MagikOwl on February 01, 2020, 21:36:36Hello Soki,I have been lurking this forum for a while now, and since I am at the same point as you maybe I will contribute a bit to see if it open new path for me.Like you, it is very easy for me to induce the mini-dreams, i can do it anywhere, at home or outside just by doing....nothing, I just let my awaraness go where it want to go and end up in the mini-dream state. It's so natural it's not even fair to call it a technique so my guess is that you won't find anything better to go phasing/Out of Body/lucid dream.Now I am saying that but my problem is that i'm doing some kind of "Yoyo" with these mini-dreams and that's it. They feel very physical and real but as soon as I try to do something with... it disappear and I'm back in the physical, 30 secondes later i'm viewing another dream or image, i try to be very gentle with it and it disappear and I'm back, again and again. So it's like i'm in front of the door of Non-Physical but there is a concept that i'm missing here. I have read Frank kepple post maybe 200 times to see if i am missing something, so far nothing new.This is either a problem of : 1) I should continue let go and thrust that I will not fall asleep or 2) I should just keep viewing the mini-dreams until something happens or 3) I was already in the non-physical I just did not knowNumber 3 came to me recently when I was reading people saying that they just "stand up" once they reach a certain stage of hypnagogia also confirm by DarknChildlike, this is very hard for me to understand since i'm one of those who does not have a lot of exit symptoms (never experience SP or voices but had many involuntary experience of the non-physical)I will experiment a bit and try to let you know if i have good result.(Please apologize for my english, it's not my mother tongue and I really need to practice more)
Quote from: soki on February 01, 2020, 23:12:24Just like Lumaza said, the first scenes you get, you have to passively observe. If I can picture it for you, it feels a little as if you are in your couch at home watching tv (yourself in the couch being your point of awareness, from which you perceive, and the tv being the scenarios). At first they are not quite "clear" in your head, you see them without much details, from a distance. But as you deepen the state (let your point of awareness sink, just stay in an observer point of view) the scenarios get clearer and bear more details, as if you were getting closer and closer to the screen. You will know you have phased when they don't feel like you are watching them through a screen, but you are literally in the scenario. Exactly like during a dream. The only difference is you got there from a total awakened state and you can come back and forth to it without (or almost) any loss in your awareness. The moment right before phasing, it's as if you were inches away from the screen and then you just get in the scene. That's where I lose my awareness usually. If you try to change some things, modify the scene or think too much you won't be able to let go enough to get in the scene (at first). You have to keep just the right amount of interest to stay awake and lucid, but not too much or it will keep you from getting in those scenarios and you will stay far from the screen, in your couch. I think we have to learn and gauge how to let go just enough, not too much nor too little. Try and keep an interested mindset. When images or scenarios arise in your mind, think things like: " How curious, how interesting!". Learn to let go progressively and most importantly, slowly. If you let go too quickly, you will fall asleep. If you don't let go enough, you stay awake, far from the scene. Hope it helps! I tried Lumaza's tip, and it went wonderfully well! I succeeded in keeping my awareness to a point where I usually lose it. The scenarios went on, and they got clear but I was still perfectly aware of being in my bed, trying to phase. Usually for me to get such a good level of detail in the scenarios I have to let go of my awareness. When I felt like I was losing my awareness I was stopping the "let go of the mind", I stabilised a little and started watching the scenarios again. This is a good step for me! I realise I only have to push the point progressively where I lose the awareness and I'll be there soon enough.
Quote from: MagikOwl on February 03, 2020, 06:50:10I will follow your advise and let you know how it went, it's funny because knowing it's all that it take to access Non-Physical realities raises many questions, what about focus10/point consciousness/energy work and all that? It does not seems relevant in this case but I guess it's probably a misunderstanding in my part. Anyway I'll probably start a new thread, I don't want to hijack soki's thread!
Quote from: Lumaza on February 03, 2020, 14:33:53 Focus 10/point consciousness/energy work, those are all techniques to hold your focus and take you deeper as the "natural shift" in consciousness occurs. I created my Doorway technique to do just that as well. To hold your attention on something other than your physical body or this physical realm itself!
QuoteThe Doorway - Leading to Wonderland--------------------------------------------------------------------------------A simple visualization technique for everyone in easy steps. I come with this myself some years ago, because I wasn't good with the mainstream visualization techniques all over internet, they were too complex for me. The most important part of this visualization is the door/doors which always lead you to mysterious wonderlands. I experienced some of my most interesting astral projections with this technique. It can be done anytime during the day, before sleep or with WBTB. I can't wait for you to post your experiences:-)**Path-1) For beginners** Step-1)lay in your most comfortable position, close your eyes and relax for a minute or two.Step-2)Begin to visualize in little steps:- An empty square room, preferable with no windows- The colors and materials of walls, preferable one color for all walls- The floor, preferable familiar material like wood or marble- an illuminated room or a darker mysterious one- The door with handle, color and material For example: pink plastic door with metal handle; red metal door with plastic handle, brown wood door and etc...Step-3)Place yourself in the center of the room looking directly at the door. Feel the floor with your bare feets, is it cold or wet or maybe a warm carpet; smell the air, is it smell like dust or parfume or perhaps on flowers, ground your self in the experience.Step-4)Start walking toward the door, touch the handle, is it cold, hot or rusty, feel it.Step-5)Open the door and enterNow the moment you enter a whole new world will emerge all around you. Explore and enjoy your stay.**Path-2) Intermediate**Step-1)lay in your most comfortable position, close your eyes and relax for a minute or two.Step-2)Begin to visualize in little steps:- an empty endless hallway/corridor, preferable with doors at both sidesThe floor, preferable familiar material like wood or marble or carpet- an illuminated hallway or a darker scary one- The doors with handle, color and material, For example: pink plastic doors with metal handle; red metal doors with plastic handle, brown wood doors and etc... or different typesStep-3)Place yourself in the center of the hallway looking directly at endless corridor. Feel the floor with your bare feets, is it cold or wet or maybe a warm carpet; smell the air, is it smell like dust or parfume or perhaps on flowers, ground your self in the experience.Step-4)Start walking down the corridor, examine the doors on your left or right, choose one, touch the handle, is it cold, hot or rusty, feel it.Step-5)Open the door and enter or just open the door and look around to see what is inside. Feel free to open as many doors as you can.Now the moment you enter a whole new world will emerge all around you or you will find a mysterious room. Explore and enjoy your stay.
Quote from: baro-san on February 03, 2020, 19:30:05Talking about your Doorway technique ...Somebody just posted a Doorway technique on another forum, and I thought to share it here: