Somethings' a miss

[The_One]

I've been trying to do conscious projection now for weeks. (I will say I do it before going to bed cause it's the only time I can relax).
I've been doing it with binary beats and with out and I can get to stage 10 ish. I've gone deep and went to sleep and came back out of it, but at no time did I hear any sounds or any vibrations.
Do the vibration and sounds happen deeper then sleep state? I really need advice on this.

Thanks for reading.

[The_One]

Can some 1 help me with this plz?

[CFTraveler]

Sounds and vibes are exit symptoms, so if you're having them you're in transition.  They don't always happen and they don't happen every time for everyone, so it's hard to tell if you didn't get deep enough or you just won't get them at all.
So the question would be, what else happened?  Did you see something or feel something else?

[The_One]

I get the strange sensation that I can't tell which way my arms are facing (up or down), and also I can get me legs to become heavy. But I still feel and hear things. It's starting to look like I'm just not able to AP, apart from doing it through LDs, but even they are rear.

Thanks for respnse.

[CFTraveler]

I get the strange sensation that I can't tell which way my arms are facing (up or down), and also I can get me legs to become heavy.

You seem too aware of your body.  This tells me trance needs to be deeper.  Until you don't think of it at all.

But I still feel and hear things. It's starting to look like I'm just not able to AP, apart from doing it through LDs, but even they are rear.

I see a self-defeating belief here.  Try to be so deep in trance you can't tell whether you're awake or asleep.

Thanks for respnse.

Well I hope it helped some.

[SnakeDoctor]

just keep trying it...like its blasted all over the site...PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT....i can easily get to the vibration stage...but i can't hold it for long and lose it. sucks...but i try.    what i do, turn off anything that makes noise(Tv, computer etc) lay there comfortably. listen for "The ring of silence" once i hear that i concentrate on that. imagine myself deep in my own stomach....its hollow and slightly gray, a beam of light coming thru my belly button. im next to a giant speaker pumping that noise out louder than an amp at a concert. i can feel the noise vibrate my body. not long after that i actually feel the vibrations.

[The_One]

O there is one thing, I do see bright lights moving with my eyes closed. I also some times get the full motion video thing, which I try to controlle but wake up?

[The_One]

Also, I've been feeling "pins and needles" when I'm relaxed, am I getting close? This isn't bad circulation cause I can controle where it is.

[Steele]

the pins and needles is a heightened vibration. i think it means youre closer usually i get these sensations in a near sleep state. but sometimes its like two roads one leads to sleep and the other to a projection. you have a fraction of a second to react and change to the road you want other times it's slower. the whole process is a giant variable.