So that's my first post on this forums, so before I post my experince, I wanna say "Hi!" to you all...
I am trying to do astral projection.And tried 5 times so far.
on my first try;
PS:I am trying to do it with my wife sleeping near me, and want to train myself against to enviromental noises as well for better focusing.
I lost my concentration on astral paralyze phase where I dont feel my body anymore.And when losts of images and stuff that pass in front of my eyes.I was got too excited and lost control
on my second try;
While on last phase my wife did a fast turn in the bed and everything was gone
Last night I tried 3 times.
Normally it took between 20-30 mins to come to last phase.
But yesterday it took, 5-6 mins to achieve, I got shocked about the decrease of time for last phase.
I got paralyzed, and thought about floating up.And at this exact moment I saw a bright light for an instance in front of my eyes.Tried to float up further but coudlnt and lose control.
I decided to sleep but my 3rd eye was aching (seems it was still far too active).I gave it a second shot.And this time i lost concentration on paralyze phase cuz couldnt maintain my calm.I am a stubborn person , yes I know I shouldnt push it too much but I gave it a 3rd try.
Got calmed and tried one last time, easily passed vibration phase and entered paralyzed phase, started to float again...And bright flash light come again, and it feels like i hear strange noise while my soul tries to sperate from my body.I couldnt do it after flash light again.Is seeing that light normal, it is really too bright and flashes once on that last phase.
I am sorry if this question was answered before and thanks for your answers..
Oh and one last question, if I get out of my body, shall I try to open my eyes to have a sight? Or will I have to do something different to have a sight?
Thanks again...
Hi, Renewed! This is what I usually recommend to people. It works for me:
HOW TO ACHIEVE AN OUT-OF-THE-BODY EXPERIENCE
GETTING PRIMED FOR INDUCTION:
Wake up earlier than usual and keep active during the day. Have a nap or sleep in the evening when you are tired. Preferably, the nap or sleep should be dreamless. For example, you can nap for two hours in the evening and then stay awake for an hour and a half before induction, OR, you can go to bed late and sleep to wake up between 4am and 6am to induce. This doesn't have to be followed strictly but it may serve as an initial guide.
INDUCTION:
Relax:Lie down comfortably and close your eyes. Your eyes are to remain closed throughout the induction. Relax as deeply as you can and take your time. Be patient and don't rush it. Make sure that you are not disturbed. There are many books about the various effective techniques you can use to acquire a deeply relaxed state, but, because you have biologically primed yourself for the experience, it should be fairly easy for you to do so without having to read up on it.
Focus on something:It could be a mantra or a familiar object (the latter does not have to be visualised to perfection). Do this as you sense that you are drifting off to sleep or when your mind starts to wander. Keep bringing your mind back to focus whenever it gets 'lost'. Keep still and relaxed and do not fall asleep! Whatever you focus on will start to take a life of its own as you relax deeper and deeper. Focus on your 'something' until you reach the hypnogogic state (the state near-sleep).
The Hypnagogic State:You will know that you have reached this state once its imagery or potential dreams begin to invade your point of focus. Being aware in this state is already an achievement. Prolong this state by passively watching its imagery, and then, slowly begin to clear your mind until you see nothing but blackness. When this happens you have gone beyond the hypnagogic state and are still conscious.
Sleep Paralysis / Vibrational State:Remain still and relaxed. Let go of any worries relating to the physical body. The trick is to let your body 'switch off' as your mind is still very much awake. This may involve resisting any urges to move or scratch itches as the physical body sends signals to the brain in a test to determine whether the mind is asleep or awake. Your body will start to feel extremely heavy and there will come a point where you will not be able to move it. Remain relaxed nonetheless and have no fear. Eventually you will lose all sensory input and only your thoughts will remain. Robert A. Monroe describes a technique for kick-starting vibrations in his book "Journeys Out of the Body" but they tend to occur naturally at this point. The vibrational state can be mild or strong. It can vary from mild tingling, warmth, and the sensation of low voltage electricity flowing through the body. Strange sounds are reported during this stage. Hissing that seems to pulse in your head, sparks, thunder-like sounds, rumbling, wind, electronic sounds, a person moaning (I have likened it to a woman giving birth), ocean waves, something like a train running, a helicopter etc. - people tend to describe the same thing in different ways but the state itself can vary too. It tends to peak before it gradually fades. Vibrations are strange but remain calm and don't analyse what is happening to you. Just act as a beholder or go with the flow. The level of sleep paralysis seems to determine the mode or type of experience you'll get or at least they appear to fit in with the classifications I've come up with according to certain distinctions I've made.
Separation:You can try partial separation first as practice before attempting full separation. Partial separation is optional. There are many ways of achieving a successful disassociation from the physical body. Here's a couple of examples:
- Think that you are getting lighter and how nice it would be to float upwards. Alternatively, you can imagine that the ceiling above you is a huge magnet that counteracts gravity and pulls you upwards.
- You can slowly roll over and out of the body. Do this subtly and as though you are moving physically but without using muscles. It is best to start by rolling over from the head and the rest of the body will follow. This movement is not imagined, it is done with intent. Once out of body you will realise that you did not move physically, you moved incorporeally.
What happens next?Once you are out, explore! Do not get overexcited and have no fear or doubt. Stay out for as long as you can and don't worry about getting back because you always do in the end. A variety of experiences are there for the taking and open to interpretation. From inter-dimensional travel, space exploration, alien encounters, meeting strange spiritual entities, visiting the living and the dead, time travel etc. etc. Remember: whatever the nature of your experience and however profound it may be for you, try to look at it from a viewpoint free of preconceived ideas. For instance, seeing a luminous being who starts singing the most beautiful melody you have ever heard does not mean that you have just met an angel. Consider both subjective and objective perspectives. Record your experiences in a journal. Feel free to carry out experiments of your own to try and determine the nature of your experiences for yourself.
Mode 1 OOBE:Your awareness seemingly remains in the physical realm, or what could be interpreted as an accurate simulation of the waking world upon separation, and, therefore, is able to see the physical body (autoscopy experienced). Sometimes the colours of the physical world will appear strangely muted, as if the world is being observed through a faint mist, and other times the colours will be clear. Vision can be hard to describe here, almost mixed with a feel of the environment and appears somewhat different to vision in the waking state. You can obtain information in the physical realm which was previously unknown to you, or information of events which at the time you couldn't possibly have known about through your physical body. This statement, of course, has to be taken as conjecture if one considers the nature of coincidences and cryptomnesia. Nevertheless, in this type of experience you are usually a floating point of consciousness and movement seems constant and gradual as though one moves through 'frames of space' or "mouse-trails". At times, the experiencer may consciously or unconsciously manifest a transparent or shadowy body. One can phase into a more metaphysical type of experience from here. In other words, from Mode 1 you can shift into the realm of thoughts.
Mode 2 OOBE:You may find yourself in what appears to be an inaccurate emulation of the real world. Familiar objects may be out of place or absent, sometimes unfamiliar objects are seen, and other structural anomalies may be observed. This is the metaphysical realm where dreamland and anything that the imagination can conceive can manifest. You can visualise an environment of your choosing as everything appears to be representations of thought, or even visit what appears to be the worlds of others, the latter being that which you believe you have not imagined. The environment can seem extremely real, sometimes displaying a crisp and bright hyper-real quality that outshines our waking reality. Some experiences here seem to indicate that one is also capable of perceiving what's on the minds of people who are awake, thus this type of experience would enable telepathy if the experiencer peruses the minds of the visited. One may also perceive an inaccurate replica of what the person is doing in the physical realm because, even as we think during the day, we are constantly projecting thought forms in that frequency. Mode 2 is easier to achieve than Mode 1. My experiences suggest so as well as indicating that there is a whole other reality or more appropriately, perhaps, more to reality than meets the eye.
QuotePS:I am trying to do it with my wife sleeping near me, and want to train myself against to enviromental noises as well for better focusing
I induce next to my sleeping wife too. Sometimes she fidgets and ruins it all. If you find this too much of a hindrance, just make an "OOBE bed" on the floor or do it on the sofa when you plan to have one.
QuoteI lost my concentration on astral paralyze phase where I dont feel my body anymore.And when losts of images and stuff that pass in front of my eyes.I was got too excited and lost control
During the sleep paralysis stage and when you get hypnagogic imagery, try not to get excited. Just act as an observer... :wink:
QuoteOh and one last question, if I get out of my body, shall I try to open my eyes to have a sight? Or will I have to do something different to have a sight?
Don't worry about vision until you are out. Once out, vision relies more upon the wish to see rather than the 'tactile' feeling of opening your eyes. Don't worry so much and have a relaxed approach. Sometimes vision is there already. Sometimes it's partial. And sometimes you come out in darkness.
You're welcome. :-)
Quote from: Renewed on May 07, 2011, 10:51:37
So that's my first post on this forums, so before I post my experince, I wanna say "Hi!" to you all...
I am trying to do astral projection.And tried 5 times so far.
on my first try;
PS:I am trying to do it with my wife sleeping near me, and want to train myself against to enviromental noises as well for better focusing.
I lost my concentration on astral paralyze phase where I dont feel my body anymore.And when losts of images and stuff that pass in front of my eyes.I was got too excited and lost control
on my second try;
While on last phase my wife did a fast turn in the bed and everything was gone
Last night I tried 3 times.
Normally it took between 20-30 mins to come to last phase.
But yesterday it took, 5-6 mins to achieve, I got shocked about the decrease of time for last phase.
I got paralyzed, and thought about floating up.And at this exact moment I saw a bright light for an instance in front of my eyes.Tried to float up further but coudlnt and lose control.
I decided to sleep but my 3rd eye was aching (seems it was still far too active).I gave it a second shot.And this time i lost concentration on paralyze phase cuz couldnt maintain my calm.I am a stubborn person , yes I know I shouldnt push it too much but I gave it a 3rd try.
Got calmed and tried one last time, easily passed vibration phase and entered paralyzed phase, started to float again...And bright flash light come again, and it feels like i hear strange noise while my soul tries to sperate from my body.I couldnt do it after flash light again.Is seeing that light normal, it is really too bright and flashes once on that last phase.
I am sorry if this question was answered before and thanks for your answers..
Oh and one last question, if I get out of my body, shall I try to open my eyes to have a sight? Or will I have to do something different to have a sight?
Thanks again...
First off- how much time it takes is completely up to how comfortable and relaxed you are. Like if you just get done slammin down a pot of coffee its gonna take a while , if even possible. Depending on what type of state im in, it could take like an hour or a couple minutes. Dont even try it if your feeling a little wired, just wait till its time to relax n chill.
Scks when someones in bed with ya, Just keep er on her own side n you should be good -lol
Sounds like your experiencing alot of the stages and your on the right track but I dont think you quite got it yet. Your ultimate goal is to get to the vibrational stage. After that you just get out. I think the vibrations your getting is the kind that are telling you its working and the big ones are on the way. If your experiencing all the things your sayn then it sounds like you dont need help on technique. Just know that the final stage is the extreme vibration -then u exit. For me, it goes like this-
-Lay on back
-relax
-relax till I go numb -during this, sometimes I might feel little vibes or pulsating in my limbs tingling (I think these our the vibes you were referring to).
-Lose complete feeling of my limbs. Almost as if they werent there. Make sure you dont move or your woman doesnt bump ya during this -could ruin it.
-(Now your real close) Might get dizzy sensations like a whipping feeling(also try to induce this feeling).
Sometimes I might see things pretty clear -not just patterns but actual things like a person walking or a tree, basically kinda like skits of a dream(this might of been when you seen that flash of light). Body might start twitchn a bit to. Then it happens..
-VIBRATIONS- these are unmistakable. Completely intense. If you stay aware when they happen their unforgettable.
WAIT TILL THEY END and just stand up. You wont have to open your eyes.
..Like I said, it sounds like your real close. Wait till your real tired tonight and give it a go. If you drift off to sleep, -thats fine. If ya wake up throughout the night just keep tryn. With that kind of effort -you will get it.
Guys thanks again so much, i didnt expect such a fast progression, I hope I can do it soon, cheers for your help :)
You're welcome and congrats on the experience. :-)