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[TIB]

hi im new here my name i TIB. ive been trying to astral project for 2 years with full effort now
the first things i tried was doing it with wbtb and waking up at night disrupting my rem cycle
ive been doing my practice with meditation for the last 8 months because i have severe chronic pain so i have to meditate to keep the pain under control a bit so i was like why not try to astral project  while meditating
and now im at the point that i always get to the point im in 3d blackness but i cant seem to exit
so if anyone has some tips or anyting i can try reply to my message

[Volgerle]

hi im new here my name i TIB. ive been trying to astral project for 2 years with full effort now
the first things i tried was doing it with wbtb and waking up at night disrupting my rem cycle
ive been doing my practice with meditation for the last 8 months because i have severe chronic pain so i have to meditate to keep the pain under control a bit so i was like why not try to astral project  while meditating
and now im at the point that i always get to the point im in 3d blackness but i cant seem to exit
so if anyone has some tips or anyting i can try reply to my message

Being in the 3D-Blackness (The Void) suggests you are actually already 'kind of' projected. If you want to leave the Void to enter a certain reality you can e.g. hold your astral hands of your energy body before you and clap or rub them against each other. If that is difficult because you still don't feel a 'body' then first imagine it. Then after a few seconds often the area brightens up (sometimes slowly) and you fade into an astral scenario of your (mostly subconscious) choice. At least that's how it worked for me quite often.

[Lumaza]

 Hello TIB and welcome to the Astral Pulse!

 When I "notice" the darkness before my eyes, I mentally enter it. I use a kind of mental motion to enter into the darkness and "allow" my curiosity to drive me deeper in. There is full trust that I will not be harmed. If things got a bit too hairy, all I need to do is "shift" back to this reality.

 Learning how to utilize a focus on, I guess you could call it "etheric motion", is a very useful tool in the Art of non-physical exploration. The difference between here and there is that here we have a physical body and appendages to do what we need to do. When I am "there", I am a single "point of consciousness" with no limitations. The rules are different there. Once you see that and "prove" that to yourself, you will find that the "shift" is just a thin "veil" away.

 I too suffer from chronic pain. I learned how to "defer" it and hold my focus away from it long enough to get the spasms under control by using Robert Bruce's "NEW". That stands for "New Energy Ways". In it. you learn how to move your focus around. You learn how to pinpoint the pain and how to focus completely away from it, which leads to a complete numbing of the pain. My favorite technique is to focus on my big toe, then after I can hold it there, I begin to kind of ethericly count up and down the toe digits. Here is link to a video presentation and introduction to Robert's NEW. He passed on this year. That was a great loss. Before he did though, he made a NEW #2. You can find a ton of info on this Forum here has well. Just do a forum search for the word "NEW".
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLE0616D1E406B3985

[Spiritual-Show2431]

Hi, I was curious to understand what phasing was, what it consisted of and how it should be practiced. I'm very curious because it seems different from everything I've learned so far about astral projection

[Adrian]

Hi, I was curious to understand what phasing was, what it consisted of and how it should be practiced. I'm very curious because it seems different from everything I've learned so far about astral projection

If you go to the Astral Pulse Home Page you can download Xanth's book, amd also a PDF compilation of posts by Frank Kepple, both excellent resources.

[Spiritual-Show2431]

Thanks so much, I'll download it right away

[Lumaza]

 William Buhlman is a great Author of Astral Projection. I have heard his seminars and Radio talk show interviews as well. His teachings, utilize an "indirect" approach to non-physical exploration. This is akin to what they call WBTB, which stands for "wake back to bed". He states that the "direct" approach is very difficult and that only few can achieve it. I disagree with that statement. With an "indirect" approach, your body is already relaxed and usually in a returning to or about to be REM mode when you become "aware. With the direct approach there is usually no loss of consciousness. I say usually because once in a while, I experience a very brief "click-out" before I find myself there, wherever there may be. The hard part of the direct approach is we need to learn how to "get out of the way". It is "us" that make a conscious shift so hard. The physical body will fight tooth and nail to keep you focused on it and only it. You need to tell yourself that it is okay. That you open to learning more. When you are, "more" you will learn!

 I love the direct approach of Phasing because you learn so much about, not only yourself, but the entire process of "shifting". I experimented with it by slowing it down, so I could experience every nuance, everything that happens before the shift. Through the use of Binaural and Isochronic tones, I learned exactly how each shift in our brain waves not only feels like, but also "looks" like. 

 "Phasing" is a direct method, and people can learn how to do it. The thing with Phasing is that because it is a direct approach you need to learn how to have complete control over yourself. You need to learn how to "hold" your focus in the new realm you have found yourself in. You also need to learn how to "turn off", or "disengage", which I call "disassociate" yourself from your physical focus. How do you do that? Practice. Talk to yourself. Tell yourself that it is okay. That you can handle a "dual" focus. Explain what you want out of it. What your goals are. After that, you need to "passively observe" and "allow" what is occurring to occur.

 There was another Author of AP that utilized the "inner conversations" with deceased souls. He is now deceased himself. His name was Bruce Moen. I have talked to a number of people throughout my years on the Astral Pulse forums here and they told me that Bruce's technique led them, somewhat indirectly, into learning how do "Retrievals". You could say it was a "coincidence", but I never believed in coincidences. I was shown that is the truth as well.

 There is a video of seminar that Bruce did over in, I think it was, Sweden. It is definitely worthy of watching. You can find that in YouTube search.

[Adrian]

Excellent post Lumaza.

I would like to add a few comments from my own perspective, and also with reference to the diverse OBE and Astral Projection experiences posted by many contributors here at these forums and elsewhere over the years.

Most of the "old school methods" of 20 or more years ago often involved some sort of action to  consciously "separate" the etheric body from the physical, which invariably included waiting for vibrations, rushing noises etc.. It is here that many would-be projectors do achieve their objectives, simply because the conscious mind engaged in a conscious state, practicing the method and waiting for vibrations etc, thus preventing the letting go of conscious awareness completely which is usually a prerequisite for success. Many attempt several variations on such methods before sooner or later experiencing frustration before giving up altogether. That said, these methods work very well for some people and therefore cannot be discounted completely Everyone is unique.

From my perspective, the direct method of impressing and engaging the imagination/visualisation while entering the sleep state at night can be highly effective as it much more fully engages the infinitely powerful subconscious mind, which will always respond with the desired experience. The use of imagination while entering the sleep state is equally valuable for experiencing almost any desired experience, in particular for healing.

Phasing, as you say, is a more recent direct oriented method, for which we are grateful to Frank Kepple, for the wealth of information he provided based upon his own extensive personal experiences, in bringing to the fore a very practical method which anyone can achieve with perseverance and dedication, and which has no doubt helped numerous people to achieve Astral Projection. Phasing, as you say, encompasses many benefits including, but not limited to, concentration, relaxation and focus, as well as facilitating a more structured gateway to the Astral and the experience of increasingly higher focus levels of consciousness.

Whatever method is chosen it is crucial to persevere for as long as it takes, days, weeks, months, as the benefits are valuable and with success comes further success.

[Frostytraveler]

From my perspective, the direct method of impressing and engaging the imagination/visualisation while entering the sleep state at night can be highly effective as it much more fully engages the infinitely powerful subconscious mind, which will always respond with the desired experience. The use of imagination while entering the sleep state is equally valuable for experiencing almost any desired experience, in particular for healing.

Absolutely agree with Adrian here. This was the key to me gaining control of triggering my projections. I notice though between my motion activity and the click out/phase there is a brief "state of no mind". This state has me referring it by "where was I for the last few minutes, I was completely absent of thought". It's a fine line between asleep and this state. Sometimes I'm not sure if I actually fell lightly asleep, or entered a trance state. The lines blur here. Very void-like, but not the void. Then I suddenly phase with lots of energy running through my body. It's all very exhilarating. The key, for me, was to do this at night while falling asleep.

[Spiritual-Show2431]

Hi, I just finished reading the book which is on the Astral Pulse homepage, the one written by Xanth. I found it a very useful book, so thank you for writing it and making it public. There are just a few things I don't understand. For example, how is it possible that dreams don't actually exist and are all part of the non-physical? Dreams are supposed to be images or places generated in our head, then from there you can expand your consciousness and have an astral projection, right? In one of the Phasing techniques, the mental-rundown, do I have to imagine myself in a real place or not? The book doesn't specify so I think it's okay even if it's an imaginary place, right? Then the book says that I could project myself to that place or that I would randomly project myself to some other place, but how could I project myself to that place if it is a place invented by me? I mean it's a place I invented it can't exist in the nonphysical right? I know the rest may seem confusing, but I don't speak English and it's translated so I apologize if the text is indeed confusing. I'm very confused on these two points of view.

[Xanth]

Hi!  Sorry for the late reply, I've been out of the country scuba diving with my wife in Bonaire.  Beautiful place and the ocean is so majestic!  I'd highly suggest learning to scuba dive!

Hi, I just finished reading the book which is on the Astral Pulse homepage, the one written by Xanth. I found it a very useful book, so thank you for writing it and making it public.

Thank you very much for the kind words.  I really do need to update it, but it's still mostly current.

There are just a few things I don't understand. For example, how is it possible that dreams don't actually exist and are all part of the non-physical? Dreams are supposed to be images or places generated in our head, then from there you can expand your consciousness and have an astral projection, right?

I take the perspective that you are a bit of consciousness which I call an "awareness", that is the true you.  That awareness projects into this physical reality.  When you fall asleep at night and "dream", what you're really doing is projecting that awareness "somewhere else".  We humans incorrectly call that act "dreaming".  It's not.  It's all projection.  That includes this physical reality experience.

Anytime you're experiencing ANYTHING - like you reading this post right this very second - it is a projection.  So when people say they want to have an "astral projection", what they're REALLY asking is "how do I experience the non-physical with the same kind of awareness I have while I'm physically awake.

In one of the Phasing techniques, the mental-rundown, do I have to imagine myself in a real place or not? The book doesn't specify so I think it's okay even if it's an imaginary place, right?
Yes, that's correct.  All you're doing here is creating a simple, easily repeatable scenario whereby you're engaging as many of your physical reality senses within that scenario.

That act of doing that, is the "Point of Focus" for that specific method.  *ALL* methods only differ by what the "Point of Focus" is that it's asking you to do.  For example, the famous "Rope Method" has a Point of Focus of "climbing a rope" - you're to do that Point of Focus and make it as real as you can.  Hence pushing away this physical reality and allowing your awareness to "grab onto" something else - which ends up being something non-physical. 

Then the book says that I could project myself to that place or that I would randomly project myself to some other place, but how could I project myself to that place if it is a place invented by me? I mean it's a place I invented it can't exist in the nonphysical right? I know the rest may seem confusing, but I don't speak English and it's translated so I apologize if the text is indeed confusing. I'm very confused on these two points of view.

Your "imagination" is a non-physical location. 

Basically, you're getting stuck on materialist concepts.  You'll expand your way of thinking eventually - it just requires experience.  But you're definitely on the right track, asking the right questions!

[Xanth]

I'm starting to see that there is actually very little difference between the "exit" or "separation" methods and the "Phasing" methods.  Basically, all techniques seem to be phasing techniques.  Our subconscious mind fills in the rest based upon the method you're doing at the point of triggering the projection reflex.

When we experience the vibrations and people then start a "separation" method, your subconscious mind says, "Oh, you're trying to separate, so you want to be in a place closely reflecting that of where your physical body resides" and when you finally do "project", you're there in the room where your physical body resides. 

When we experience the vibrations and we just continue on with the method which brought those vibrations on - we end up potentially anywhere - just appearing in a different reality.

So yeah, I'm really starting to see that *ALL* projections are phasing.  And phasing is all that there really is.  It's our subconscious mind filling in the blanks of where we end up.

[Spiritual-Show2431]

I understand, but what exactly is the difference between Lucid awareness and astral awareness? In the sense that they are very similar, I don't think I quite understand the differences between the two.

[Xanth]

I understand, but what exactly is the difference between Lucid awareness and astral awareness? In the sense that they are very similar, I don't think I quite understand the differences between the two.

We'll start with a dream awareness, which is what you'd probably just call a "dream".  It's you experiencing the non-physical, yet you don't realize it.  Essentially, you're the actor in the play not knowing you're in a play.

Lucid awareness is when, at the very base level of it, you realize you're non-physical.  You might not understand at that exact moment that your physical body is sleeping elsewhere, but you know you're not in the physical.  You're now the director of the play.

Astral awareness is the goal of what most people aim for when they say they want to do astral projection.  It's you being non-physical and you have your full waking awareness.  That's the same awareness you have right this very second while awake and reading this post.  You know who you are, what you are, with all your full memory intact.  You're now the writer, director and actor.  If that makes any sense.  You hold all the positions.

I also find that there's a measure of consciousness:subconsciousness associated with each level.

Dream Awareness is 0:100 - your subconscious mind is fully in control of the experience.
Astral Awareness is 100:0 - your conscious mind is fully in control of the experience.
Lucid Awareness is a mixture of the two, we'll just say for arguments sake 50:50 - you are controlling the experience with the help of your subconscious mind.  That's why manipulating the environment is much easier with a lucid awareness, compared to an astral awareness.

All of that make sense?

[Spiritual-Show2431]

Yes, I understood the difference between the various types of awareness. When we dream we enter the non-physical right? The non-physical has various structural levels, right? So, I know that in the non-physical you can meet other entities who are experiencing the same reality as you, but as soon as you fall asleep and dream you experience a private non-physical reality, it's a reality created by you that only you can experience right? Or does our non-physical body, when it dreams, wander into many non-physical realities (without awareness) that it perceives only partially?

[Schimmelblau]

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask you two things, if I may:

I have been practising Xanth's phasing technique for a while now and also during meditations I sometimes have flashes of landscapes and places that last about a second or two. I'm not very good at visualising and these flashes are much clearer than what I could visualise and I also don't know how this can come from my mind as they are so different to what I would imagine.
So I'm wondering if you experienced APers think this could be the beginnings of phasing?

And if so, could you guys please give me some advice on how to prolong these flashes?
Is it possible that the reason for the short duration is my intellect kicking in?

Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated!

[Frostytraveler]

The visuals can be a precursor to phasing. It's a good sign and you are on the right track. In my case if I get lots of visual imagery then I usually don't phase though while observing the visuals. One could, but I typically do not "enter" the visuals. I have entered them on occasion though. I draw myself slowly into the scene, while keeping my emotions calm and peaceful. I more often click out and phase after the visuals have faded though. For me, a motion rundown triggers this on demand vs randomly, which also occurs.

As Lumaza always says, "passively observe" the visuals. Passive observation can make the visuals last a lot longer. If you look and analyze every detail of the visuals, you will likely wake up. Yes, the visuals are MUCH different than what our minds usually creates/imagines. If it were labeled as a technology, I would say the visuals brought on by metaphysical/spiritual activity is an entirely different technology than the mind's normal imaginative state (just a metaphor). The level of clarity, dimension, colors and depth can be quite incredible and very holographic. The level of waking awareness can be extremely high while observing these visuals, which often brings an "active observation"  state which can also increase our emotions and excitement and end the visuals. It's a fine balance.

[Schimmelblau]

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply in such detail!!!

That sounds very motivating!

Could you please explain the term 'motion rundown'?

[Frostytraveler]

Here is a brief synopsis of a motion rundown. LightBeam was particularly helpful in fine tuning this technique for me.

Doing this before bed generally works bed as you fall asleep to this.
Pick a motion, be it running in the woods, rocking back and forth on a swing or hammock, bouncing on a trampoline, or any other motion that involves swinging, bouncing or a general fast paced motion. A motion from your past or a current activity or sport I find works best as there is a personal connection to it.

Now be sure to place yourself in the scene, breath it, see it, smell it, feel it as if you ARE there, vs just merely recreating it. Do the motion for many minutes a night (approx 10 to 15 minutes or so). Do this every night for 2 weeks. Then do as often you as desired if it has worked for you. The challenge for me is that it is easy to fall asleep prior to doing the rundown for a sufficient amount of time so it's best to be rested. Note though, the goal is to fall asleep to this motion while doing it after a sufficient amount of time has passed.

When I do this, I usually wake up 15 to 45 minutes later with energy surges and visuals. I also often forgo these occurrences and just find myself clicking out/phasing to a location and/or an experience.

Others may chime in for anything that needs elaborating on.

[Xanth]

I have been practising Xanth's phasing technique for a while now and also during meditations I sometimes have flashes of landscapes and places that last about a second or two. I'm not very good at visualising and these flashes are much clearer than what I could visualise and I also don't know how this can come from my mind as they are so different to what I would imagine.

Hi!!

Yes, as Frosty mentioned, this a really good sign.  These are called Hypnogogic Images.  They usually will make no sense to you and seem to be just images pulled from your experience somehow.  This is showing that you are teetering on the cliff of projecting.  They are, essentially, mini projections - however, since you're still mostly connected to this physical, your awareness kicks back in analyzing, and is like, "WHOA, what was that?!"  which then causes the disconnect and why they only last a second.

So you're doing great.  Just keep deepening your awareness towards the phasing method you're using.  You're getting there! 
 

And if so, could you guys please give me some advice on how to prolong these flashes?
Is it possible that the reason for the short duration is my intellect kicking in?

Exactly, but don't worry too much about focusing ON them.  They're just one of those "signpost" experiences that tell you you're on the right path.  Keep focusing on the method you used to bring them on. 

[Lumaza]

 Schimm, you are doing great. Keep doing what you are doing, and you will see you soon be able to ride one of those "waves" into the NPRs. I say "waves" because in the act/Art of Phasing you are allowing a "frequency shift/wave" to occur while consciously aware of it.

 The Hypnagogic image is just the precursor for what comes next. I love to just "notice" the imagery as it morphs anew. I say notice because you don't always have to follow it deeper. Just noticing/passively observing how the imagery "evolves" will in turn help you evolve in this practice as well.

 When I started in this practice I had many "go tos" when it came imaginary targets. I used tossing a basketball, a spinning top, simulated rowing, driving, all kinds of things. But, somewhere along the line, my imaginary target began to evolve or morph into something that was not of my doing. All I did was start the imagery, the imagery though, began to change and I watched in awe as it did.

 That's when my first Guide showed up in a scene that had to do with my deceased Brother-In-law. We didn't really have a close bond. He was a very busy man.  He knew my passion for "paranormal things" though. He shared that passion as well.

 That experience taught me "depth perception" in the NPR. The next time I saw Charlie, he was sitting at a bar right beside me. He then stressed the importance of "passively observing". I did that and learned quite a bit about the actual process of Phasing. I slowed it down so I could explore it. I am fortunate, I have a very strong sense of curiosity. That curiosity came in, oh so handy in the NPRs. I allowed my curiosity to steer the course. I didn't need to join the scene, I was already in the scene. At first, I was just the "passenger". After while I was in the driver's seat.

 Nowadays, when I close my eyes, it seems the hypnogogic imagery kicks in immediately. That came through years of exploration, and I greatly commend, applaud, and thank the Astral Pulse and all of it's former and current members for
aiding me on my journey.

[Schimmelblau]

Here is a brief synopsis of a motion rundown. LightBeam was particularly helpful in fine tuning this technique for me.

Doing this before bed generally works bed as you fall asleep to this.
Pick a motion, be it running in the woods, rocking back and forth on a swing or hammock, bouncing on a trampoline, or any other motion that involves swinging, bouncing or a general fast paced motion. A motion from your past or a current activity or sport I find works best as there is a personal connection to it.

Now be sure to place yourself in the scene, breath it, see it, smell it, feel it as if you ARE there, vs just merely recreating it. Do the motion for many minutes a night (approx 10 to 15 minutes or so). Do this every night for 2 weeks. Then do as often you as desired if it has worked for you. The challenge for me is that it is easy to fall asleep prior to doing the rundown for a sufficient amount of time so it's best to be rested. Note though, the goal is to fall asleep to this motion while doing it after a sufficient amount of time has passed.

When I do this, I usually wake up 15 to 45 minutes later with energy surges and visuals. I also often forgo these occurrences and just find myself clicking out/phasing to a location and/or an experience.

Others may chime in for anything that needs elaborating on.

Hi Frostytraveler!

Thank you so much for this and also to LightBeam!!!
I'm really overwhelmed by how much support, information and encouragement APers have for beginners. You guys really want beginners to succeed! You guys really rock!

I'm going to have to read this a few more times to sink in.

Much appreciated!!!

[Schimmelblau]

Hi!!

Yes, as Frosty mentioned, this a really good sign.  These are called Hypnogogic Images.  They usually will make no sense to you and seem to be just images pulled from your experience somehow.  This is showing that you are teetering on the cliff of projecting.  They are, essentially, mini projections - however, since you're still mostly connected to this physical, your awareness kicks back in analyzing, and is like, "WHOA, what was that?!"  which then causes the disconnect and why they only last a second.

So you're doing great.  Just keep deepening your awareness towards the phasing method you're using.  You're getting there! 
 Exactly, but don't worry too much about focusing ON them.  They're just one of those "signpost" experiences that tell you you're on the right path.  Keep focusing on the method you used to bring them on. 

Hi Xanth!
First of all, I would like to thank you for the instructions on phasing. I am currently practicing the noticing technique. Even though I haven't mastered it yet, just looking at the blackness and the movement behind the eyes has really grown on me. It's lovely!
Last January, I practiced it every day for a month and then - I have to admit - gave up. But Lumaza encouraged me to stick with one (this) practice, as he said that most beginners fail because they keep switching to other techniques.

Thank you also for your input on my questions! As the one from FrostyTraveler, this is very encouraging!

I appreciate it very much!

[Schimmelblau]

Schimm, you are doing great. Keep doing what you are doing, and you will see you soon be able to ride one of those "waves" into the NPRs. I say "waves" because in the act/Art of Phasing you are allowing a "frequency shift/wave" to occur while consciously aware of it.

 The Hypnagogic image is just the precursor for what comes next. I love to just "notice" the imagery as it morphs anew. I say notice because you don't always have to follow it deeper. Just noticing/passively observing how the imagery "evolves" will in turn help you evolve in this practice as well.

 When I started in this practice I had many "go tos" when it came imaginary targets. I used tossing a basketball, a spinning top, simulated rowing, driving, all kinds of things. But, somewhere along the line, my imaginary target became to evolve or morph into something that was not of my doing. All I did was start the imagery, the imagery though, began to change and I watched in awe as it did.

 That's when my first Guide showed up in a scene that had to do with my deceased Brother-In-law. We didn't really have a close bond. He was a very busy man.  He knew my passion for "paranormal things" though. He shared that passion as well.

 That experience taught me "depth perception" in the NPR. The next time I saw Charlie, he was sitting at a bar right beside me. He then stressed the importance of "passively observing". I did that and learned quite a bit about the actual process of Phasing. I slowed it down so I could explore it. I am fortunate, I have a very strong sense of curiosity. That curiosity came in, oh so handy in the NPRs. I allowed my curiosity to steer the course. I didn't need to join the scene, I was already in the scene. At first, I was just the "passenger". After while I was in the driver's seat.

 Nowadays, when I close my eyes, it seems the hypnogogic imagery kicks in immediately. That came through years of exploration, and I greatly commend, applaud, and thank the Astral Pulse and all of it's former and current members for
aiding me on my journey.

Hi Lumaza!

Thank you too for your encouraging words!
And for explaining your path to NPR!
I've been thinking for some time about starting a thread where you experienced APers could share your stories of how you got started, your hurdles (if any), and how you finally made it. I think this could be very interesting for beginners. If there's already a thread, I'd be grateful if you could point me to it, because I couldn't find one. Astral Pulse is just too big already
I know you started one about the signposts of phasing, which I've already read very carefully. And your stories of how you got there would also be very interesting.

Thanks so much!!!

[Nameless]

"I've been thinking for some time about starting a thread where you experienced APers could share your stories of how you got started, your hurdles (if any), and how you finally made it. I think this could be very interesting for beginners."

That's a great idea. Yes we have some great threads here already but a new thread might create more interaction.

BTW, I'm Nameless been following this. You've gotten great instruction and insights from some pretty amazing people.