the roll-out tecnique

[Jeff_Mash]

I remember when I first read about the roll out technique, I was a bit apprehensive to try it.  However, now it is the most common way that I get out of body.  I simply twist and roll out onto the ground below me.

Depending on how much control I have, I sometimes have to crawl out of the room before I can get my bearings and stand without being pulled back in.

Other times, I roll out as walk away, knowing that I have enough energy to stay out for awhile.

Anyway, once you roll out, you will see how much easier it is to get out of the body, and you might just find yourself using that method of exit more than any other!


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[astralmaster]

My question is: are you supposed to physically roll over or mentally imagine it? By "physically", I mean that if you're in a full trance state and you try to physically move, that should be enough to take you out of body. Right?

Mash: checked out your site. Cool...


David

[rodentmouse]

astral master,  thats what i wanna know aswell.....
iassume exiting your body gets easier afvter the first time,  at the moment every time i physically attempt to get out my body  i realise its just my physical,  which brings me back to the physicall or mental action question???

in last nights training i got to the point where i could actually control and create the hypnogogic imagery,  (e.g i wanted to see the corridor of my college and it would appear in my minds eye)  
ive never been able to do this before,  could someone suggest how close,  how deep or how far ive come into  the astral projection process/training now please?

[Patty]

AM and RM:

Have you ever had the experience of having legs or arms feel separate from the body? Where you could move those without moving your physical arms and legs?

I think the rollout method is like that - you have to be deep enough that you can feel the astral body (at least part of it) separate from the physical body, and roll that part. I think it probably feels physical, not just like an imaginary thing.

I did rollout once, I prefer the 'sitting up out of your body' approach.

Patty

[Jeff_Mash]

Astralmaster/Rodent dude,

It's a little hard to explain.  For me, I just KNOW when I'm able to have an OBE, and when I'm still in a trance state.  This usually happens once I have drifted off to sleep, and suddenly, my consciousness snaps back to full awareness.  There is (usually) an absence of sound, and in this moment, I feel that I am disconnected from my body slightly.  That is when I roll out to my left and I'm free to roam around!

Now, although I am not physically rolling, whenever you are in that out of body state, it couldn't feel more real!  It always amazes me when I do roll out that I'm not physically doing it.  Most of the time, in order to fully convince myself that I am out, I have to thrust my arm through a wall, or else I would think that I really rolled out of bed!


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[Patty]

Our experiences are very similar.  

I also often fall asleep, then snap back to consciousness without waking up. Usually within a few minutes of falling asleep.

I don't roll out, but maybe I will try that again next time. There is no sound, most times. I feel the carpet underfoot as I am walking around,  as real as can be. I start to think, "I must be awake, walking around, this feels very real."  

I don't put my arm through the wall to check, rather I jump - and sure enough I make it to the ceiling. That's how I know I'm out, and that my body is still asleep.

RM  and AM  - I get the idea that you are looking for an exit with no sleep before hand. Yes? I hope you get it! My understanding is that that is a different sort of experience - Like more controlled, less confused.





Patty

[AndrewTheSinger]

For you to project you have to create the sensation of the exit during the trance state. You can create the sensation of:

*rolling out;
*slidding aside;
*spinning and floating away.

Of course, choose one, don't try them all at once.
You must forget your physical body, if you move your physical body you'll surely wake up.
You have to induce that feeling. You know what it feels like to be spinning, don't you? Try to remember that feeling and mentally induce it to happen. Focuse on your inner body (your imaginary body or astral body, whatever you call it) and use your imaginary hands to put it in motion. It gets to a point where you vividly feel the spin or the rolling.
During the trance the thought is all you need to make something happen.

[astralmaster]

If I just roll out like that, i will fall off my bed. I sleep on the left side of the bed. So basically what you're saying is: in order to be roll out, you already have to be out. Thus, the rolling out just acts as a separation technique.
I also wake up and snap back to full concision's, but the doesn't mean that my physical body and astral body have separated.
let me know what you think.





David

[Patty]

When I say I snap back to full consciousness, I mean that my body is still asleep. I don't wake up. So the two ARE separated, and you're right - it is not a way to separate but a way to exit.  I presume the separatyion happens because your body is asleep.

Have you ever had the experience of trying to stay awake really late and you doze off, wake up with a jolt, try to stay awake, doze off, wake up with a jolt, try to stay awake, .... etc......

It's almost EXACTLY like that, only eventually when you 'wake up with a jolt' your body doesn't. It is just your consciousness snapping alert. Then you can get up and walk around.

Patty

[jilola]

quote:Have you ever had the experience of trying to stay awake really late and you doze off, wake up with a jolt, try to stay awake, doze off, wake up with a jolt, try to stay awake, .... etc......

Had that last night several times and while my body stayed asleep I wasn't able to get out (possible due to getting a bit too eager). Tried the spinning trick and all sorts of others but to no avail http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/images/icon_Smile_sad.gif" border=0>

2cents
jouni

[rodentmouse]

for anyone who can answer it...

how do you actually know when you have seperated from your physical body???   are the wooshing sounds, buzzing, paralysis and vibrations all necessary criteria for seperation???

[jilola]

For what it's worth I didn't hear anything except the airconditioning and I'm pretty sure I was detached from the physical but occupying the same space.
If you haven't read it yet ann account of las night is on OBE experiences under Yay! way cool night w/all the toppings...
I don't think the sound and visual effects are necessary but the vibrations are probably caused by the close proximity of the physical and energy bodies.

2cents

jouni

[Jeff_Mash]

quote:Originally posted by rodentmouse:
for anyone who can answer it...

how do you actually know when you have seperated from your physical body???   are the wooshing sounds, buzzing, paralysis and vibrations all necessary criteria for seperation???

RodentMouse,

This usually depends on the person and the individual experience.  ALthough I have heard loud noises before, usually I will separate with just a really "airy sound."  

Have you ever flown in an airplane?  Sometimes, when you turn on the little air nozzle above your head, you hear this hissing sound.  I usually hear that when I am separating.  After that, all seems rather quiet for me.

However, I would think that depending on your mental state, you could hear any number of things (popping, music, screams, voices, etc.)




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[AndrewTheSinger]

You know that you're out when the images appear. If you feel the floating, the vibrations, electricity, but all you see is darkness then you're technically still in the trance. The projection happens after the trance, either you project or wake up.

You must keep going.

Ah, another important thing, don't look for the images too early. Keep on rolling or spinning for a while and the images will appear naturally. Pretend that you are blind and that by spinning or rolling for a while will give you vision. The trick is to forget all your other senses and to go deep into what you are doing.

[Sandman]

I've only had 2 OBE's but I used the roll out method on the last one (about 2 months ago). I woke up after an afternoon nap (not my usual habbit) lying on my side and had the feeling there was someone hugging me from behind. I'd had this sensation several times before and had decided it must be my physical body, just an inch or two out of phase with and behind my astral body. So I closed my eyes and just thought about rolling on over onto my stomach. As I did I could 'see what must have represented the inside of my skull moving by in front of my eyes but it had an almost geometric patrtern 'etched' into it, so maybe not. Anyway, once I felt like I was on my stomach I thought to myself 'I should start going up now' and WHOOSH!!! LOL! It was like I was attached to a low flying ariplane or something. I just shot up through the roof of my house and hovered there about 10 feet above the roof. But as I was flying up I had noticed there were two people sitting on the bed (1 man and 1 woman) and my attention was focused on them. I knew I was alone but there they were. And the woman was smiling and waving and seemed nearly as excited as I was. From where I was I could still see them ,right through the roof, sitting on my bed smiling and waving.

Then snap! and I was back in the ol' body again. What a ride. hehe

Does anyone know who these people could have been? Sorry if that's been covered here already.

Sandy

[rodentmouse]

hello to the people

another method ive heard a lot about is the roll out tecnique.....
what confuses me is are you meant to FEEL yourself rolling out as if you actually rolled over  physically or are you supposed to mentally command yourself....  i find FEELING myself roll out very difficult indeed.
should the  vividness of the action increase with practise ? (if only tried it for the last few days)