Void question

urshebear · November 26, 2019, 23:50:15

Hey guys is it possible to experience the void state straight away after you exit?

I have always just thought there was a delay in my astral sight but now that I think about it... it's always the moment when I open the bedroom door that I can finally see.

What I am wondering is if I'm perhaps projecting straight into the void state and then finding the door which sets the scene through my expectation of the door being my bedroom door?

I hope that makes sense and sorry if it's an obvious question.

Thank you kindly.

Lumaza · November 27, 2019, 01:37:45

Quote from: urshebear on November 26, 2019, 23:50:15
Hey guys is it possible to experience the void state straight away after you exit?

Yes. I find that the void is basically like a invisible wall or barrier between "here" and "there". I guess you could call it a "neutral zone" of sorts!

You can access it quite suddenly. I think many people kind of miss that point. They expect that it takes a long time to access it. Sometimes, if the time/mood/conditions are right, by just closing your eyes and noticing you can find that you are already in that 3D darkness. I find that happens when you "prime the pump" beforehand. Binaural Beats and Isochronic Tones are a great way to do just that.

urshebear · November 27, 2019, 03:19:42

Thanks, heaps Lumaza!

The penny has dropped! I think I had over complicated my ideas about what the void state was. I'm excited to actually spend some time there and play instead of trying to get out as fast as I can.

Lumaza · November 27, 2019, 05:04:25

Quote from: urshebear on November 27, 2019, 03:19:42
Thanks, heaps Lumaza!

The penny has dropped! I think I had over complicated my ideas about what the void state was. I'm excited to actually spend some time there and play instead of trying to get out as fast as I can.

I enjoy experimenting in this area.

Here is one such experiment I did back in 2012. At that time my name here was "Lionheart".
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/anchored_in_the_astral-t37323.0.html

urshebear · November 27, 2019, 06:50:13

Oooh thanks for sharing I will add the anchor trick to my to-do list for sure!

It's amazing that you get such vivid imagery so quickly.

I have been off and on trying the phase method for years but I can't seem to grasp it. The indirect method works well for me though which is something. Fingers crossed I will have another light bulb moment.

Volgerle · November 27, 2019, 16:36:39

I believe we all project 'through' the Void state all the time to reach other planes / realities / dimensions, whatever. It's like a net or grid that permeates all of reality.

Lumaza · November 27, 2019, 20:39:10

Quote from: Volgerle on November 27, 2019, 16:36:39
I believe we all project 'through' the Void state all the time to reach other planes / realities / dimensions, whatever. It's like a net or grid that permeates all of reality.

Yes and to confuse it even more, there are different depths/levels, per se, to the void. The further you go into it, the further away your focus on the physical is. At first it seems like a "wall" of sorts. That changes soon into more of a "cloud" once you enter it. At any time though, you can just create a intent and be there or you can just float in the "ether" of the void and just "be" period. This is where I normally work on new Art designs. Once in awhile though my intent will be to SEE what I NEED to SEE and LEARN what I NEED to LEARN. {I capitalized those words because I visualize each letter of them while making my mental intent). I then "trust"!

Volgerle here did a fantastic job of explaining the "Void" in full detail here. It is the most informative and comprehensive write-up on the Void that I have ever seen! A must read for those serious about this practice.
https://astral-blog.weebly.com/blog/the-void

urshebear · November 27, 2019, 23:48:16

Thanks heaps guys.

I did read through Volgerles write up after I posted and found it to be really well written and in-depth.

The article itself pretty much answered my question but I am glad I asked anyway because I often get things wrong and find a personal response helpful

I remember probably about 6 years ago looking through here trying to figure out how to get into the void and trying Frank's suggestion of the Venetian blinds with very little success but I was a lot younger then.

The information was there and yet I just wasn't clicking on.

Classic example of the saying "When the student is ready, the teacher appears".

MarsZM · November 28, 2019, 00:26:04

Urshebear - I am not sure even after all my experiences what this point consciousness state feels like except a couple of times. For me it felt like the space in front of me gets really big... and one time it felt like my mind was expanding beyond belief and this got so strong I had to abort! Then another time the space got really big in front of me and I had this spinning feeling like crazy... I loved it and was so relaxing. I've had some pre mature kundalini stuff happen to me in the past and ruined good 3 years of my life... but for some reason I really felt the need to post this.

I think going into this the biggest thing is to make it fun. Have fun with this and think of yourself as an explorer on another planet.

I use lots of humor too... I think a lot of my problems during that kundalini event in my life was because I was scared... When I learned we are all one I thought I was alone and it was just me. As time went on I learned we are all one but each "spark of consciousness" seems to have its own thoughts and ideas and living their own lives outside of mine. I was so terrified about reality and finally after so many years I look back and think gosh if I just calmed down and didn't panic as much I think my symptoms would have been so much less... even if something happens like you expand your awareness suddenly and start seeing "entities" all over the place and have a hard time shutting it off... try to just remain calm and still have fun and a sense of humor is huge!! Any sort of fear with the non physical or even fears we have here are very chaotic... and cause so many problems. I think a lot of the problems people hear about are not being able to have a still mind... and fear.

It's like if you do self work... this all becomes sooooo much easier. And going in with a "fun" mindset I think is the ticket with all this stuff. Go have fun and explore and remember you are never ever alone. Plus there's always people to talk to who do this stuff thanks to the internet!

I am learning how to get to point consciousness and hold that... Then after I get good at it I can start using my intent to drive me to places and do what I wanna go do. I'm working on mastering my thoughts now though because it'll pay off big time!!

I feel like this is the most normal and natural thing for all of us but because it's kinda the unknown to us now it can be hard and confusing. And it's so sad because I don't think forgetting this stuff is normal or healthy but on this planet we are hammered from the get go to forget all this stuff. I remember as a kid I saw dead people walking around and faces floating... and the walls always looked like they were melting. I didn't even tell anybody because I thought it happened to everybody. I went to public school and within a year everything was gone. I'm 28 and just getting all of this back! I know I kinda went off what you were talking about maybe but I really just felt like sharing that.. and hope you have awesome experiences

-Mars

Lumaza · November 28, 2019, 01:15:11

Quote from: MarsZM on November 28, 2019, 00:26:04
Urshebear - I am not sure even after all my experiences what this point consciousness state feels like except a couple of times. For me it felt like the space in front of me gets really big... and one time it felt like my mind was expanding beyond belief and this got so strong I had to abort! Then another time the space got really big in front of me and I had this spinning feeling like crazy... I loved it and was so relaxing. I've had some pre mature kundalini stuff happen to me in the past and ruined good 3 years of my life... but for some reason I really felt the need to post this.

Mars, that is exactly why many people fail in the process of Phasing. They lose control of the situation and we all know how much people do not relinquishing control, even for short duration. At times it gets so overwhelming that it feels like your head is going to explode. It has a way of "overloading" our conscious minds. I think this is why the "click out" occurs. I talk often about passively observing everything with a "air of curiosity". This is just another one of those things we need to learn how to move past. Sometimes it can come on quite quickly too. Other times, you don't experience it at all and you just find yourself "there". Why, I have no idea? That's why we always say "leave your expectations at the door"!

Lumaza · November 28, 2019, 01:21:45

Quote from: MarsZM on November 28, 2019, 00:26:04
I am learning how to get to point consciousness and hold that... Then after I get good at it I can start using my intent to drive me to places and do what I wanna go do. I'm working on mastering my thoughts now though because it'll pay off big time!!

That's the kind of mindset you want to have. It will lead you to deeper and deeper experiences! Learning how to hold a "point consciousness" point of view will help you exponentially in navigating your NP surroundings.

urshebear · December 25, 2019, 09:03:06

UPDATE

Ok so within the past 10 years I have only managed to project around my house (or other houses), through space and to the hospital place that they keep wanting me to go to. I have wanted to have more control over my destinations so this whole idea of using the void as a launch pad has been top of my to-do list.

After writing this post and realising that I was already experiencing the void I had a little win last night...

My intention was to create a portal and travel to New York. I sent this intention out into the void.

I was picked up by the back of my neck like a kitten being held by its mother. It didn't hurt and I felt very safe. I was lifted higher and higher and when I looked down I could see the entire Earth below me. It was spinning slowly as if to let me pick my destination. Then I started being lowered back down. I realised I was going to be dropped into the Ocean which was fine. I had never experienced swimming in the NP before so I was pretty happy even though it wasn't my chosen destination. Once I was dropped off I began to swim and took A few gulps of the salt water to engage my senses.

I saw an island and decided to make my way over but as soon as the decision was made I was already there. The island was rocky and there were creatures living on it. They looked like a cross between a seal and a dog but much bigger. They were pretty hostile and on sensing my movements they would come one by one emerging from the rocks rushing to attack me... but when one creature moved, it would always be attacked by another which meant I was safe.

One of the seal dogs was especially big and I praised it when it saved me from an attack. I said "good boy! Good boy!" In a high pitched tone. The creature loved it and began walking by my side and protecting me in exchange for my praise...

Soon after that I lost my astral awareness.

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