Why is sleep paralysis considered the holy grail for AP?

[Gummage]

I don't get it. So many talk on here about sleep paralysis and how they are always trying to get it maybe after sleeping to try to awake from it to somehow AP from there but what I don't understand is why does it work from sleep paralysis? all sleep paralysis is seems to be an automatic precaution the body takes when your asleep that you cannot move so you don't end up acting out your dreams. How can this be of use for AP attempts?

Pls someone tell me why this state is considered very good for AP attempts.

[Xanth]

It's just another method for projecting.  People might consider it the "holy grail" only because that's how Robert Monroe did it.  It's just "another method" for projecting.  Nothing special about it.

The idea is that when you're in Sleep Paralysis you're, technically, already disconnected from your body... so it's at that point you do the roll out.

[Gummage]

The idea is that when you're in Sleep Paralysis you're, technically, already disconnected from your body... so it's at that point you do the roll out.

But how do you know your in it if your asleep?

[ArmyOfOne1911]

I had my first OBE experience this morning. Trust me you will know! You will know if you are in sleep paralysis too because you won't be able to move. I have been in this position a few times and freaked myself out. Don't though it's all natural. Be positive and go from there man. Keep focused! From my experience with the sleep paralysis I could see out of my physical eyes but could not move or speak. As to how I got to the sleep paralysis state I am not sure. :/

Hope I helped a little man.
Good luck.
-Cody

[Xanth]

But how do you know your in it if your asleep?

As Army said, if you're in bed, and you wake up unable to move... you're in Sleep Paralysis. 

[AstralBeginnings]

Ive personally never tried for, or experienced sleep paralysis.  Its like the Vibrations.  People set them as a goal.  I see posts such as "how do I get sleep paralysis" and "how do I get vibrations" when they really should be focussing on the end result of projecting.  Things such as SP and vibrations are simply signals along the way to projecting and some people get neither but can project just fine.

[Gummage]

I understand what happens but I don't get why this helps an AP attempt?

[jkjk8991]

Sleep paralysis is "the holy grail" because if you're in sleep paralysis, only your body is asleep, not your mind(hopefully) so then you could easily attempt to "move" your consciousness out of your body since it's disconnected already. I found it works quite well if you can relax you body enough into it, I've only managed to do that a couple of times, mostly from waking myself up then going back to bed. But it is only a landmark, after a bit you should start to get a feel for when it's time to separate.

[ArmyOfOne1911]

I found in sleep paralysis I cannot breathe either. I think I actually am breathing but am so disconnected from my body I don't realize it. It's not dangerous it can just be frightening if you don't know what this is you know? I remember once I had a sleep paralysis episode. I didn't know what it was because I was not into this OBE stuff. I couldn't breathe, move, talk, or hear, and I was shaking. (Vibration state maybe and didn't realize it?) I saw crosses on my wall and they were shaking as well. I am not a religious guy so I had no idea what was going on.

[blis]

I understand what happens but I don't get why this helps an AP attempt?

Waking up in SP means you can go straight to the exit technique instead of having to spend time getting into a decent trance and trying to disassociate from your body. It saves time and removes all the doubt about whether it's safe to try and move yet.

[urshebear]

But how do you know your in it if your asleep?

you wont know if you are asleep in sleep paralysis you will only be able to tell if you are awake in sleep paralysis (if that makes sense). Everynight people sleep and dream while in sleep paralysis. but if you are awake you could experiance things like vibrations, buzzing, voices and visual hallucinations. you also might feel paralysed, weight on your chest etc.
I haven't actually felt paralysis or anything like that for a while cause the SP never lasts long before I am out.

[Xanth]

I understand what happens but I don't get why this helps an AP attempt?

I already mentioned why:

"The idea is that when you're in Sleep Paralysis you're, technically, already disconnected from your body... so it's at that point you do the roll out."

[Gummage]

I already mentioned why:

"The idea is that when you're in Sleep Paralysis you're, technically, already disconnected from your body... so it's at that point you do the roll out."

So you don't feel your body at all? I mean nothing at all?

[Xanth]

You could still feel some percentage, sure.

[Gummage]

You could still feel some percentage, sure.

I don't think i've ever woken up in sleep paralysis in my life. I will try to though.

[AstralBeginnings]

I will try to though.

I think you would be better off focusing your attention on the overall goal of projection rather than just on SP. 

[Gummage]

How long on average does SP start after you have gone to sleep?

[light487]

Sleep Induced Paralysis would be a better term.. but it's too much of a mouthful

[Astral316]

How long on average does SP start after you have gone to sleep?

Pretty much immediately after. However, you aren't going to get there easily if you've never been there before. In order for your awareness to be in the moment after your body shuts down, you need to train your mind to be in the moment habitually. That means regular meditation. That in combination with the "wake back to bed" method gets me into pre-projection sleep paralysis 80% of the time.

[Gummage]

I also wanted to quickly ask: does everyone get SP?

[Xanth]

Nope.

[Gummage]

Oh I thought everyone got it automatically every night?

[Xanth]

Oh I thought everyone got it automatically every night?

You become paralyzed every night when you fall asleep and dream, yes.
That's not Sleep Paralysis.

Generally, this effect is applied to us after we fall asleep and wears off just before we wake up.
Sleep Paralysis is the name we call it ONLY when that effect malfunctions and it happens before you fall asleep or you wake up before it wears off.

[blis]

Isnt that waking sleep paralysis?

[Xanth]

Isnt that waking sleep paralysis?

Naturally, it's called "REM Atonia"... you're never meant to experience it consciously.

When it's consciously experienced it's called "Sleep Paralysis".