Your view of the astral world.

[T.L.]

Umm yeah I have had experiences of going through a tunnel at a fast pace. However I didn't have 'tunnel vision' I could see as I normally do complete with peripheral vision... so when I talk about this kind of thing I mean normal vision but going through a literal tunnel. Hope this helps.

[catmeow]

Rudolph if you are not willing to engage in an actual discussion, but would rather insult by accusing me of nit picking, obfuscation, game-playing, unreasonableness, etc etc there is no point in continuing this discussion. I thought I was bringing clarity not obfuscation. If you had simply said "oh huh I see why we're saying different things" that would have been fine and we could have moved on. There is a big difference between "tunnel vision" and "seeing a tunnel" the former is a visual impairment and the latter is not. Your post was all about visual impairment, so it's important to make the distinction. I have no agenda other than discussing the facts (no "tricky" no "game"). Since you don't wish to do this, I won't reply to you any more.

[catmeow]

Let's not just go by what people say and instead experience it for yourself. I experienced it myself before I ever read anything online about it. I had no idea others were experiencing this as well. It happened a number of times and I just found it too disorientating. As long as I actively think about it not happening it doesn't. It's really really hard to explain and I can not even come up with a kind of comparison to explain what it is like. The only thing I can tell you about it is it was near impossible (the first time) to tell which way is up or down, left or right. I also felt small as well, more like I was a speck of light, or dust particle..etc like I said hard to explain. I also felt it less comfortable than just feeling like I do now, obviously. It's indeed interesting to experiment with it from time to time but probably something you wouldn't want to do regularly. When I project I want to take as much time as I can to accomplish whatever goal I set, when this kind of thing happens you waste a lot of valuable time just trying to navigate around and orientate yourself.

I find this fascinating T.L. I have never experienced this spherical vision. What you describe is in fact different to 360 degree vision, it is true spherical vision (left-right, forward-backward, top-bottom).  Spherical vision crops up quite a lot in OBE and NDE accounts and is something I think skeptics have difficulty explaining.  I have never heard of people having spherical vision in regular dreams (?) but in OBE/NDE it happens...

Umm yeah I have had experiences of going through a tunnel at a fast pace. However I didn't have 'tunnel vision' I could see as I normally do complete with peripheral vision... so when I talk about this kind of thing I mean normal vision but going through a literal tunnel. Hope this helps.

Me too, I have travelled through tunnels... and... yes... my vision was not impaired in any way...

[Rudolph]

Rudolph if you are not willing to engage in an actual discussion, but would rather insult by accusing me of nit picking, obfuscation, game-playing, unreasonableness, etc etc there is no point in continuing this discussion. I thought I was bringing clarity not obfuscation. If you had simply said "oh huh I see why we're saying different things" that would have been fine and we could have moved on. There is a big difference between "tunnel vision" and "seeing a tunnel" the former is a visual impairment and the latter is not. Your post was all about visual impairment, so it's important to make the distinction. I have no agenda other than discussing the facts (no "tricky" no "game"). Since you don't wish to do this, I won't reply to you any more.

Catmeow, I made no insults toward you. Identifying a nit-pik as a nit-pik is NOT an insult. Identifying obfuscation as obfuscation is NOT an insult. I did not accuse you of game playing. I did not accuse you of unreasonableness. I described my examples as sufficient for 'reasonable' folks. If you want to somehow take that personally there is not much that I can do to help you.

I politely request that you withdraw your false accusations toward me.

But I can say, "oh huh I see why we're saying different things". It looks to me a little like it is because I pointed out an error on the part of a local hero and the clique decided to circle the wagons. Even though the error was blatant and obvious. Vision (and also simple navigation) problems are extremely common among new APers. For an experienced APer to step up and say, "not for me" is irrelevant.

It does not matter if you insist on making an irrelevant distinction like, "There is a big difference between "tunnel vision" and "seeing a tunnel" the former is a visual impairment and the latter is not" -- because it does not change the error of the original observation that "Initially, you'll most likely see exactly as you do right now".

Neither "tunnel vision" nor "seeing a tunnel" is an accurate description of seeing as "you do right now". Nit-piking on the difference between those two distinctions constitutes obfuscation. My post was NOT "all about visual impairment" -- it was about that original characterization of seeing, "exactly as you do right now".