The Astral Pulse

The Mothman has been depicted on Cave drawings, so it has been around awhile. There is alot of diff theorys to it, but basicly its a humonoid with wings that can see the future, or atleast knows of up coming disasters. It is sighted in the area of the event, and even warns people about it. Although most everyone that comes into actual contact with it end up dieing afew weeks later.

I dunno if there is spirits or chupacabras around my house but my dog every night freaks out and is always very wierd towards my back yard..
Can you tell me some things about your house, and the elementals?
-Aries

I haven't seen anything myself, but my dad says he has seen a ghost around the house.  Also there is something in the woods, I haven't seen it though, but I have seen trees move by themselves.  My dogs also bark at nothing at night.

my attacker claims to be a demon, but other that I haven't see any as far as I know.

Jen :)

Sometimes negs like to make themselves out to be more powerful than they really are. If your attacker is a demon, I can help you take care of it. I've fought many demons before. This one is no different to me. I am involved with fighting more powerful beings than demons these days. My warrior skills are better than they used to be, though they could always be improved.

Like I said, shadows move all the time when there are no adults around. I see blurs move around, and things that look like a mass of black, white, and grey swirling around. I sometimes see people walking around the house, and once four young girls hanged in the corner. That scared me.[xx(] At other times I'll be at a friends and my mom will hear "me" talking to her. Footsteps can be heard walking through the house when someone's alone.

    My elementals are random spirits that I've befriended. I don't think that's what an elemental is, but it's what I call my astral buddies.

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Sometimes negs like to make themselves out to be more powerful than they really are. If your attacker is a demon, I can help you take care of it. I've fought many demons before. This one is no different to me. I am involved with fighting more powerful beings than demons these days. My warrior skills are better than they used to be, though they could always be improved.

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*hopes this was directed at her* I'd suggest you read my other posts, but yeah, she (my attacker is another person) claims to be a cat demon with the ability to shape-shift into a giant cat. I personally don't entirely believe her. if you want to help, pm me

Jen :)

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Sometimes negs like to make themselves out to be more powerful than they really are. If your attacker is a demon, I can help you take care of it. I've fought many demons before. This one is no different to me. I am involved with fighting more powerful beings than demons these days. My warrior skills are better than they used to be, though they could always be improved.

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Demonslayer huh?  I haven't seen one of em' yet.  Is there a trick to getting them to come around?  If so, I'd like to wack a few.

i can vouch for ender, he s avery truthful person.

Most of the Time I leave demons alone. I have quite a few strong ones out in a field by my house(It has been nicknamed my field. Latley waht me and one of my friends believe to be a fox demon has been toying with our minds. It has been making me think things that are not like me to think. It hasnt really tried making me think things evil or physcotic. Most of the time its just perverted lol. Also it seems to be making a rush of thought go through my head every now in then.

Yeah, ghosts and demons, have you ever had one visit you in a dream or seen one that was actually there in a dream.  I was forced into an OBE by a spirit once, and when I tried to return to my body, it held me back. I got away on the second try though.  but I wonder sometimes whether it was actually evil or not... I'd like to go back to the place where I saw it, but I haven't been able to.[B)]

The ghost was probably thinking, "Dang it, I just can't find anyone to talk to.  They must not like me.  I pull them out to have a nice friendly chat, then they run away when they see me [:(]"

I think I may have seen a ghost or spirit or something once, I saw a shadow move...
I have felt wierd energys in certain places. My house for one, I just moved there. My backyard at night makes my dog go crazy. He is always acting very wierd towards it, and like freaks out at it.
One night while I was meditating, I was laying down on my bed and I felt something jump onto it. I thought it may have been my Dog, but I had locked it out of my room. I felt the weight of this thing start to walk across my bed. It must have been small and light, because it made me think my Pug was on the bed. Anyways it walked over to me and layed down on my right knee. I sat up to kick my dog out, but nothing was there. I check the room and nothing at all, when I opened the door my dog was in the living room....
Sense then, my room mate has sensed strange energys coming from inside my room. I started to let my Dog sleep in my room and he acts like he is seeing something. He will bark at walls, and whine. He also paces the bed, like going around the edges just looking at the wall or floors. So I am not sure what is going on...
-Aries

i have had a demon / ghost sighting lately.
it was a white and black shadow thing and it went through walls at my house. i do not want to speak to it but i know i must do so someday. if anyone has any ideas about this so called black and white  entity of mine that would be great.

Ask it about who or what it serves and what its purpose is.

Black AND White you said? Interesting. I had one in my old house, just, whatever you do, don't try to make it leave. Do you know if it's aware of your prescence or is it totally aloof?  Does it have a malicious prescence or a sad one, or is it positive?  There's a big difference between wanting to cause harm and just being upset.  Try talking to it, or try to sense its feelings by hanging around the places where ou see it the most.

Hmmmm interesting. There seems to be a lot more people sighting demons than a year ago.

So what, Clow?  More proof for your theory?  I've seen spirits (you call them demons) my entire life.  
I find that the frequency of my seeing demons increases if I start to mess with them, as though they suddenly realize "Hey! Someone noticed us.  Now, let's bug the Hell outta them until they talk to us again."  It's rather annoying.  Does anyone notice things like this occurring?

they're everywhere. some good, some bad.

That's my point exactly. More proof to my theory. Maybe people won't flame me now when I talk about the demon war. I don't really mess with the demons as long as they leave me be.

I'm curious, Clow. Where did your theory start?

It started at school where I met a group of people who believed in the demon war. Just to make sure I wans't being lied to I checked the Internet. Sure Enough I found three different theories. Nibriu- Hollow planet that will come take us away. The End of the World- Seems pretty self explanitory. Demon War- The Astral will turn physical and most(not all) demons would have a war with humans. After opening my Third Eye(more or less) I could feel hear and see these things doing just that. Trying to turn physical. I also like the Idea that in this demon war there are two paths. We win and resume life. Or we lose and then demons will be the top of the food chain.

In the other two theories it does not work that way. Nibriu- We are safe. The End of the World- We are not safe. As I said before I do not believe in fate. I do however believe that no matter what we can change the future. Even if it has already been perdicted.

Wow, I get grounded for a few days and look at how many people posted... Most of my friends are demons. I hunt demons that attack me, but otherwise I leave them alone. I don't know how to exorcise 'ghosts' or I would have exorcised my house a long time ago. I think you have to befriend them and learn how they died. That's just a guess though, so correct me if I'm wrong. I've just gotten into Shamanism and haven't really talked to many spirits.

Sometimes spirits come to us and we think it's our imagination. I found this out from experience. I used to get these images of people in my mind and I never even met them. I would get images in my mind of them many days at a time. I would always think well of them. Sometimes I would also see others who weren't so nice, and would sometimes bother the people I was seeing.

Yeah, talking to ghosts sometimes works, but generally most exorcisms don't.  I tried once. I got a good three months of being followed around by spirits, ghost, demons and the suchlike, not to mention very persistant nightmares.  One of the creepier ones was having something whispering incoherantly into my ear when I'm trying to sleep. I could actually feel their breath in my ear, though I'm not sure if they did that to make me pay attention or if they actually needed to breath.[xx(]

Schizer! It's like a Buffy episode. Were the demons here originally?

And what the hell is this "safe" you speak of? My freinds pet rat is "safe" though it spends most of it's life in a cage on it's wheel.

I am no ones pet!

As for demons becoming physical and present? I'm sure many of you will have some nice family reunions.

Jessica

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It started at school where I met a group of people who believed in the demon war. Just to make sure I wans't being lied to I checked the Internet. Sure Enough I found three different theories. Nibriu- Hollow planet that will come take us away. The End of the World- Seems pretty self explanitory. Demon War- The Astral will turn physical and most(not all) demons would have a war with humans. After opening my Third Eye(more or less) I could feel hear and see these things doing just that. Trying to turn physical. I also like the Idea that in this demon war there are two paths. We win and resume life. Or we lose and then demons will be the top of the food chain.

In the other two theories it does not work that way. Nibriu- We are safe. The End of the World- We are not safe. As I said before I do not believe in fate. I do however believe that no matter what we can change the future. Even if it has already been perdicted.

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Rhinegirl, would you please explain? I am having a hard time following your posts. This one, for example. It doesn't make sense to me because I don't see how humans are demons. Can you clear this up for me? Thanks, I would appreciate it.

Okay Ender. Every living thing has a spiritual body. Now some people have Astral blood which tells wether the thing is a demon or astral creature. I am a cat demon(have the "Astral blood" of a creature in the astral resembling a cat). That is how a human can be a demon. However when the final pole shift hits us. The humans with astral blood will transform to their "true form" even if they don't realize they are demons. I have been experiencing poleshifts latley that have been changing my body in ways. Anyway it's a bit off subject so just PM me for more info [:D].

And how do you know this, Clow?  How do you know that you have astral blood?

Someone read my spirit anyway that is also off topic. So back to Demon Sightings.

Pai, you said most of your friends are demons.  Do you see and talk to them in the physical, the astral, or both?[:)]

Clow if my memory serves me correctly arnt you the one who posted here a while ago telling us all you were a cat demon or at least turning into one?
If not I apologise, its just that the lady who did say they were spoke of demon wars also.

Yes most people who have figured out that they are a demon have long scince known about the demon war.

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Yes most people who have figured out that they are a demon have long scince known about the demon war.

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so was it you or wasnt it? just cant be bothered searching out the thread to find out.

=) Yes I am the cat demon. Anyway back to subject. There are two possibilities. Either spirits are collecting outside my doorway. Or maybe the ki barrier I put there a while ago is still there and I can somehow see it without opening my third eye.

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=) Yes I am the cat demon.

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ROTFFLMFAO!!!!!

Have you ever noticed how demons and such seem to seek oneself out after you acknowledge even one?

yeah...  i've noticed that too...

Did you guys know i'm also a daemon?  I didn't want to tell anyone, but i'm of sloth daemon origins.  Yes, sloth daemon, because of my laziness and my tiredness all the time, which is just my daemon part acting up all the time.

So i definitely feel for you Clow.
~ivan

Really people did that last time I came open about it. The thread became a flame as you might imagine to many hormones clashing. Any wuntsumrice would you stop thats the same as being racist. I don't care if you disagree but when you start to mock it insults me. I heard enough about the puppy demon that likes to lick its balls and hump peoples legs in my last thread.

Um...pleasant

Yah I'm sorry might have lost my temper. Basicly someone did that on a thread where I was trying to explain how people could be demons. As a matter a fact many people did something like that. Oh well I'm not going to say sorry because I wouldn't mean it. But I probably could have gotten My point across a bit nicer.

you know, Clow, i was reading all the stuff in the category and came across the parts where you said you were a cat demon.  well, i think that is a load of crap. oh, and your theory about changing when the poles shift is messed up too.

Well, pole shifts do happen, but the demon-thing is questionable.  Would this demon-born-in-human-form be rare, or should I watch out to make sure that my nextdoor nieghbor doesn't turn into a demon when the poles shift?

I personally think it would be pretty rare, because otherwise there would probably be many more reports of demon sightings.  but, if they only changed when the poles shifted, there could be many that just haven't changed yet because the poles have not moved.

Hmmm, well has anyone seen their nieghbors turn into demons?

How am i mocking you Clow?? All i did was do what you did, take characteristics of yourself and apply them to a demon form.  So by you're definition i am half Sloth Demon.

~ivan

Wantsumrice your mocking because when you made that post you were not anywhere close to serious.

It's not rare at all maybe more than half the human population is demon. Also I don't think what I've said about the pole shifts is changing anymore. A while ago maybe. That was only because I didn't know much about it my self back then.

When I say that I will turn into my demon form on a pole shift. I mean the final one. The one that will happen when the Astral Demension and Physical on merge. So no Findtruth you don't have to watch you niebhor in worry because even if he/she wore to cahnge into a demon it wouldn't matter. They are still the same person.

Ok now im serious...I'm a sloth demon.  And i still did the same thing you did, take characteristics of myself and applied.  You said you were a fox demon and i said i was a sloth demon.

~ivan

so, can anybody explain this pole shift thing to me?  or the demon war that someone was mentioning earlier?  i'm kinda interested...

Ok lets say you are serious. It is more complicated. A attribute so widley used as laziness would not work. Also if you have a sloth in your home you probably have a nice bond with it. There has to be many different charateritics too. I have been discovering that I rub up against walls. Just like a cat the rubs up against peoples legs. Also you said that I said I was a fox demon. You may have me mistaken with Van-Stolen.

um, if half the population is demon, wouldn't they act a little oddly? and how am i supposed to tell if i or any of my family or friends are demons? if they bark at cats like a dog, they must be a dog demon?????

Demon don't only have animal attributes.  I've heard of elemental demons and such.  So, what you're saying Clow, is that half the people in this forum are demon.  So, if I were a demon, how would I know? Or more to the point, would I know?[;)]

Most demons are open minded. Also no you wouldn't see people barking at cats(thats also stereotyping dogs). I know that I don't chase mice and run after birds(also setreotyping). A demon acts like a normal human and they might not even know that they are different. Also there are many demons that are elemntal. When I was trying to figure out what kind of demon I was I once thought I was a water demon.

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Demon don't only have animal attributes.  I've heard of elemental demons and such.  So, what you're saying Clow, is that half the people in this forum are demon.

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Can I be the Demon of Rudeness?

Jessica

Sure, but i think a better phrase would be "demon lacking of any tact"

... try to be more open minded Rhine[|)].

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... try to be more open minded Rhine[|)].

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ok....I know! I'll be the demon of polite and proper behavior, with my side kick tellmewhatiwanttohear who grants peoples wishes.

Jessica

You don't have to be polite and proper, just think a bit more open-mindedly before you type or speak or whatever.  Offending people as much as you can, won't get you very far if you want people to answer you instead of constantly arguing over your manner.  Altough, you seem to enjoy wasting other peoples' time, don't you.
Back to the topic (or something like it), how can I read peoples' spirits, does anyone know?
And, oddly, I havn't seen any demons for a while now, but maybe I've just been too busy to take notice[;)]

a person can be not-polite and at the same time not-rude while still being helpful and informative. you don't need to tell people what they want to hear (and i say good for you if you don't [:)], cause people desperatly need truth rather than fairy tales, even if it does hurt) but you don't have to be mean while doing it, although i do agree it's much easier [:D].

of course, at times shock (but not being mean) is needed, and at other times comforting (but not catering to someone's delusions) is needed [:)].

~kakkarot

Maybe my third eye just closed but I can't seem to see any demons either.

I remember when I used to flame and mock people on astral pulse. Looking back on it I feel really stupid. No offense Rhine but if you plan to stay on AP try not to step in the same cow pie that I fell in.

Speaking of the third eye Clow, I've been having trouble opening mine recently[xx(](past month), though before I could open it and see clear as day(the colors wee a bit off, but other than that, it was pretty good[|)])
And I'm still curious, how does one read spirits like you had yours read, Clow?  Does anyone know?[;)]

I don't know but I can ask some people and get back to you. Also PM me about your third eye I think I can help you.

Wow... This thread's gotten popular. Anyway, Clow, I dunno if you nticed, but only about 4% of our team is non-human. That leaves 1/2 of them demon, so about 2% of them is demon. The other 2%, one being me, are dragons. So most of the population is human.
On another note, if you want to find your astral form, listen to our instincts and look in your soul. Your true form will be revealed. Oh my, I sound like a Yu-Gi-Oh dude...
Well, bye for now.

That's cool Pai.
I've noticed some rather disgruntled gnomes lurking around my house and yard lately.  I summoned them, but they obviously didn't listen to me because i don't think they did what I asked and they're still hanging about.  Thing is, they're not evil, just dicontent (as many earth spirits are these days), so I won't use chi against them as i would a negative entity.  I know this isn't a demon sighting, really, but are nature spirits similar to demons/youki (or the same), and any ideas on how to make them happy so they'll go back to whatever it is they normally do?[xx(]

I'm just laughing my butt off here.  So now there are dragons to go along with demons?

What!?  You mean you've never met a dragon, Wantsumrice?
I'm not certain, but you've probably walked right by at least one(in human form or in the astral) without noticing.  Poor you[:(]

maybe the dragons are in demon form, and are fooling everyone into thinking there are demons. and maybe humans are just humans....

~kakkarot

And maybe it's all an illusion, everything an illusion...So what?[:P]

Wow... Deep... [:)]

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Wow... Deep... [:)]

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yes....deep....moist...full aroma....found in cow pastures...

Jessica[:P]

Yes I realize not many people on our team have any power. However I've noticed that most people with power are willing to accept the Idea. Also dragons are much like demons and so are elemental spirits. I consider anything from the astral a demon/youkai.

I keep having these nightmares about demons that live in my house. I've been having these dreams since I moved here about 2 years ago. They are very realistic and sometimes I wake up with burns, cuts, and bruises. I've tried everything I could think of to make them stop but nothing works. It's reaching the point where I swear I see these creatures during waking hours. The only reason that I'm sure of my sanity is because my roommates and neighbors(they live in the same house) are also having similar incidents happen to them. The demons that I dream about are small quick leathery looking creatures with no mouth or nose though they have big ears. They have large hands that burn with touch. In my dreams they live in a hidden room in the basement but they move through the walls. In one dream they attacked my cats but ignored me. In another dream they were chasing me through out the house but wouldn't enter the attic (Where I was hiding) to get to me though they stood at the stairs and waited for me to come back down. Also in my house, we have things thrown at us, our pets go crazy and attack the air and we have seen things levitating.  My neighbor swears she has been forced to the ground in our basement and held there for several minutes.

have you checked the basement thoroughly for any such "hidden rooms"? it sounds like some kind of answer may be down there.  especially if your neighbor was forced to the ground down there...  i don't know the circumstances or the layout of your house, or how often you use your basement or anything, but maybe "they" were trying to prevent her from finding something?  i'm just speculating, of course...  but don't get yourself hurt, alright?

What exactly have you tried to stop them?  Can you do energy work at all?  And I agree, if this is happening to everyone in your house then it has to be real, so go check out your basement, preferably with someone else to watch your back.  Also, the hidden room could've once been there or it might exist in the astral and these creatures could've created it too.

You should talk to Pai about that. She can Identify demons really quickly. I agree with find truth. Try to fight back. They say when you dream your spirit leaves its body. Most things are minds create or alter. However somethings we have no affect over...

Ive had a close encounter with a being of Total darkness once.
several years ago, (when i was a kid) i was sleeping over at a friends house. we were watching tv late and decided to tur nin for the night. as he turned the tv off, my eyes were barly adjusting to the light, when i felt a distinct presence on the other side of the room (toward the living room door) suddely i begain to see a humanoid like figure sloowly walking across the room (*right toward me) before i could say anything, my friend spoke in a frightened voice "if thats you man, thats Not funny" at that point i was pretty terrified. as was he when he heard me reply to him. (oposite side of the room as the figure) at that point i closed my eyes and tried to go to sleep. im Assuming that either the force wasent interested in me. or Another Oposing force interfered and helped me (as has happened Later in my adult life)
well, sence u guys asked i thought id share my story (to which i have one witness) good night all

Man I really got to stop reading about demons at night. I live in the basement and my door is just a curtain. This drops the security points of my room to about 5[:D]. Luckly I blaire my music so I can't hear what happens outside the room(which helps).

Zephyr your experience is very interesting. My friend used to live in a house where something like that happened only he got physically attacked. I know he wasn't lying because his mom said it happened too. However I am curios about what happened in your adult life. Most evil biengs prey on what they can make afraid. Which is usually a child. Hence there is a monster under my bed.

the dark force i encountered most likely Could have hurt me..
it was pretty terrifying for me and my friend.
i have aquired a great deal of knowlege and wisdom in my short time here *20 yrs* ive only had a couple of encounters with the dark side on every encounter i belive a force has interfered.
i once became Lucid in a dream. .which Always happens if i start t ohave a bad dream (so i can wake up) i suddenly felt a dark force Enter my dream as i walked into my house (in the dream) there was a terrible presence... so i woke up, (i have a failsafe to make me wake up during bad dream) but a short while after waking up.. i realized i was STILL DREAMING! so once again i made myself wake up.. moments after, i realized that Yet Again i was still dreaming... i felt as if i were Trapted inside my dreams.. which has Never happened.. sence a young age ive been able to wake myself at will.
needless to say this "force" that had entered my dream put my through Several (waking up) scienarious.. Seemingly trying to get my to Forget i was still sleeping.. it even went as far as to start taking the form of Family members. (gets goose-bumps) in the Last (false awakening) i woke up on the couch and my sister was there.. i became very distraught,  " i cant tell if im Dreaming or not" at that point, i begain to suspect Her. "You arnt real Are you?" at that point she dissapeared and i looked behind me.. and finaly my assailent apeared to me taking the form of three stone faces in the room ajacent to me, (they resembled the faces of easter island)
just as they Apeared to me.. i hear a voice from the oposite side of the room, it was Bold and powerfull, seeming to come from above me, outside of the dream. it spoke in a dialect that made no sence to me.. but the words were very commanding. a being of great power..
at that very moment i woke up. shaken, weak, sweating, and not to mention terrified.. but at no point during the ordeal did i give in, only for slight moments did i become unaware. i will not give the details of those moments here.. nor to anyone..
needless to say, the light won that night, when the force intered the dream, im Assuming a battle insued after i woke up. no question to Me who won :)

they say that the faces of the stone statues on easter island are those of an alien race. maybe your assailant took this form for a reason? maybe in some past life on another planet, you were enemies or something and now it's vengeful?  is this latest spirit the same one that you mentioned before?  just a thought.  take care of yourself until it's solved.

more interesting to me is the intervening force.  higher self, maybe?  or something more?  only you know for sure.

lol, i dont make any enemies, and i belive the reason they took those faces were to symbolize the enigmatic. just a shell, a form for the real force to take.
as for the power, either a guide, friend, or of corse my higher self. whatever it was it Was Not happy that they were keeping me there, and i got the feeling that i was kinda pushed out of hars way while they finished business. or perhaps the attacking forces had to re-align their forces to meet the oncoming attack.. or Most likely, a mix of the above.
in general, im a soul of light, i dont Cross a lot of people.
and in turn, very few have the desire to harm me.
However, in this realm there is an ever brewing conflict between good and evil . light and dark. and to anwser ur question. they were two totaly seporate occasions.. Years apart. the dark being was One being.. and the beings that attempted to controll my dreams were of Three.. probably takes a lot of energy to Hold somone in their dream.
id like to conclude with saying that ive had experiances with beings of light as well. not only the bad ones come my way :)

good. [:D]

i've been noticing more and more of this battle between good and evil as well. which is why this "demon war" that everyone was talking about before makes a lot of sense to me.

There was a fire at my house about a year ago. And a couple of months ago when i started sleeping here again i was about to go to sleep on the floor when i felt somthing was in my room. And at the other side of the room i saw three tall shadowy figures kind of like described in the third harry potter book called dementors. So i did as i always do i created an energy shield from floor to celing which was pretty week considering i was not concentrating at all i was pretty afraid. They kind of just sprung up on me. So then i said what do you want. They just stayed there watching. Not moving at all. I got bored as i usualy do because i have add. So i decided they were not going to do any thing. And i put just enough energy to last the knight and went to sleep. I woke up and they were gone. THE END

I found that very interesting about what you said , EonianZephyr, about the lucid dream.  I too had a lucid dream once where I was forcibly kept from waking up by a spirit, but it only took me two tries to wake myselfe up, but I got the same feeling of waking up and then realizing that I was still dreaming.  This happened when I was staying in a motel on an away trip and the spirit appeared as a tall, pale woman, with mid-neck length dark hair and (kinda creepy) her eye sockets were empty and messily sewn shut in a zig-zag manner with something that looked like twine.  She said something to me before I realized I was dreaming, though I can't remember what it was.  But when I tried to wake up, she forcibly held me back until I tried to wake up again and suceeded.

your story about the tall women gave me the chills for a moment.. creepy eh?.. i belive the beings Knew i was a fairly aware person and wasent easily assailed/.. so they anticipated that.. and joined forces... like i said.. there were three of them.. and from the feel of it.. they were pretty powerfull.. but they stuck around Too long, and payed the price for messing around in my dreams.

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I'm just laughing my butt off here.  So now there are dragons to go along with demons?

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Yeah, you got a problem? You would e lucky to have seen a dragon, seeing as how there are only 8 survivors. (One from each race) We were in a war with demons in my Dragon life. Through trickery the demons won, but my father made sure that one of each species lived on in a human body. Well, until the planes collide. Then we have our astral bodies back. And there are many other species too. Celestials (Angels), Sprites, and others. Don't post if you're going to be so close minded.

i have like 3 negs in my area, all i think were farmers, ive ticked them off ALOT, so now they keep gettin in my mind, any advice?

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why?

I'm not going to ever use a motel. If I could tkae one fear away it would be my necrophobia. That really hurts me because I study about that kind of thing.

The heads at Easter Island eh? Thats just a bit wierd. Also you realize you must be something specail right. If you have to higher forces(obviosly powerful) battling over you. I would try to find out why. The more you know about yourself the better.

Right now I think one of my friends may be a  eletric demon. In the last couple of months(recent heavy poleshifts) he has been walking passed street lamps and them going out. Just last night him, another freind, and me wet for a walk at night(it was cold[:(]). He walked past one and it went out. He pointed it out and said its been happening the last couple of months. Then he started doing a jig. The lamp started flashing on and off. When he stopped it stayed off. Whats wierd about this is the flashing lamp is a physical effect. The only physical things that have happened to me in the poleshifts are I've gotten stronger.

Whoo I think thats the longest post I've ever written.

That, is really bizarre.  Somehow I think your friend might have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning. Just a random thought.

Hey haven't been on here for a while.  What I was saying is that there could be youkai in the world, strange energies and such you know.  Hmm, this dark entity, could you make out anything about it or was it just blackness, becuase I think I might know what it is.  I hope that I am wrong though, becuase if it is what I think it is, he wants you dead.  

I have got to go though, be on after school so ask some questions for me to awnser when I get back.

Sorry for two posts in a row, but my page just brings me back to default when I click on anything.  Clow has something, though I don't think that half of the planets population are demons, maybe like only 2% would be full demon and some other like 5% would have even traces of demon blood, I think most demons were killed in the last 500 years, either from demon hunters or otherwise.  Though there are many ways for demons to be born.  One way is if the person has a lot of negitive emotions, this can easily attract spirits and change that person into a demon, though I think this hasn't happened becuase the person realizes what is going on and resists, thus driving them insane.   I think that Clow is right about the when whatever is going to happen, anyone who thinks of themselves different and has made a different form for themselves on Astral then when the Astral becomes physical then those people would change.

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In the last couple of months(recent heavy poleshifts) he has been walking passed street lamps and them going out.

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[:O] this has been happening to my girlfriend and I in the last couple months too!

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I think that Clow is right about the when whatever is going to happen, anyone who thinks of themselves different and has made a different form for themselves on Astral then when the Astral becomes physical then those people would change.

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i think so too.  does anyone have any idea when thats gonna happen?  i doubt it's too far off.  i think it was the Mayans who prophecized that the world was gonna end in 2012?  possible coincidence?

Well, a friend of mine told me about this too.  His was a little different, but the basic details match up to what Niburu's coming and the pole shift and he heard this from a friend of his.  Further in my freinds life, he started doing work in the astral and having communicated with his guide, confirmed some of the things said.  I have also spoken to my guide and though some of the details are different the core idea is the same.  If the astral and physical planes do merge into one, then you can expect alot of chaos.  I just hope that the humans that are left after it (if it does happen)  don't decide to 'purify' us and make sure the human race goes on.

who or what is Niburu?  sounds kinda familiar, but i don't know where i heard it.

Niburu is the sapposed tenth planet of the solar system, it has a wide orbit and only comes about ever 3600 years, you can read more on that in No_Leaf_Clovers topic on New Planet Approching.

has anyone seen how big the ozone hole is? not to mention the seriously low numbers of butterfly, birds and amphibians world-wide?
skin cancer rates have tripled since 1990

and more and more tanning salons are popping up everywhere.

hate to break it to you folks, but the demon war started when petroleum became the most precious substance on earth.  everyday we drain another couple hundred thousand gallons out of the holy land.
for what? so we can go to our jobs everyday via an ineffiecient and polluting vehicle?

so we can have silly putty? so we can have the FREAKIN packaging for silly putty (which is 90% of the entire product weight)

why why why? its so absurd, the advent of the internal combustion engine was certainly the turning point for mans demise.

and it will continue to be, even the development of the hydrogen engine now wouldn't save us all

Heh, I don't know whetever I should smirk or cry when reading this thread. A lot of just pure utter BS information going on here with
no truthful foundation whatsoever.

Crow:

If you think as EVERY spirit in the astral as a demon I must say this is either stupidity or just pure ignorance since the nature of a True demon is VERY different compared to an ordinary Astral Being.

Assult:

You could try apologizing for you behavior and then just tell them to leave. Otherwise than that I really can not say what you can do. The more you know about Neg. pestering the more you probably can ward them off. If things really start getting out of hand you could buy RBs Psychic Self-Defence as it explains a lot. I have no experience with Garlic myself but RB mentions that it gives protection. Then I know that Pure Water really gives somekind of protection since there is something very holy in H2O [xx(]. You could also try to make a YHWH Pentagram where the spirit rules itand it faces east.

Assult, you could do what I usully do, give them hell. (not that it's the smartest idea but if you give them a hard time, they generally go away)

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has anyone seen how big the ozone hole is?

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Has this started to grow again then? Last I heard sometime last year was that the Antartic hole had following a high altitude storm broken into two holes of smaller overall area and is continueing to shrink. The estimate then was that it will have closed in 40-50 years or so, this is following the reduction in use of CFCs.

I will go check this myself as your message suggests otherwise and that is disapointing :)

Later:
I looked at a couple of sites and the hole size this past year has been one of the largest but the estimate for prolonged closure is still at 50 years.
http://www.antarctica.ac.uk/met/jds/ozone/ is one place to look for more info.

The poor ozone...[:(] I'm glad it's feeling better[:P].
Who here believes(or knows) that they're part or all non-human(demon/youkai, dragon or some other reptillian etc.)?  And how do you know.  
And if you think it's bovine excrement, that's not answering the question, say why you think you know something like non-humans being incarnated into human bodies isn't possible, kay?

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Who here believes(or knows) that they're part or all non-human(demon/youkai, dragon or some other reptillian etc.)? And how do you know.
And if you think it's bovine excrement, that's not answering the question, say why you think you know something like non-humans being incarnated into human bodies isn't possible, kay?

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OHHHHHH!!!  take that! [:P] I was thinking similar things.

by the way...  when you quote something, how do you get the little "originally posted by..." thing?

I believe it is possible to incarnate into a human life, while your soul comes from another place. Possible another universe/galaxy/star system/whatever.

Maybe there are only a handful of true humans, who knows [:D]
Heaven't really researched much into this...

OK, let me first state that I am a very open minded person.

With that said I would like to comment on the following.

I believe some of the postings dealing with spirits (in what ever form the choose to manifest) are probbaly true, since I know that such things do exist.

ANYONE who thinks people can be demons are living in a delusional fantasy, and it doesn't help when others are supporting this delusion. People are not demons. Demons do not have bodies, or blood, and are only powerful negative entities which seem to manipulate people's emotions to syphon off energy to themselves through their victim. Demon's are not good otherwise they would not be demons.

The ozone is really bad because we keep puncturing it with rockets for satellites and the like, those are causing more damage the pollution and cfcs combined.

When it comes to dreams, I would have to say that these 'Dark' things are more than likely reflections of your fears and that but running away from your fears, you are not going throught the dream therapy you need. Although I do know that spirits in close proximity can effect your dreams, more often then not your bad dreams of demons are in actually your fears showing themselves.

I USED to have bad dreams frequentenly like most people, but I have not had a bad dream in over 4 years. The reason is that I am not afraid of anything, in waking life or in dream life, and that way I never experience bad dreams.

I realized a few years ago that we are all essentiall ONE. Everything is connected. Some things have more love, some lack considerably in love. The point is, that even if you die, its only a change, like water turning to vapour, but just like every other cycle represented here in the physical plane, so does all cycles exist. Birth and Death. Rebirth and Death. So you should realize that these spirits need to know that we are all connected through love and that fear will accomplish nothing.

The reason this world seems to be becoming more negative is because there is less love going around and more selfishness and fear.

Well for something on topic: I once said to a spirit i suspected in my house "Very FunnY" and then a lamp was knocked over, and I also has a dream about the same spirit moving stuff in my house. I was an interesting thing to have witnessed. Never sensed any negativity from it tho so I just suspect that it was just a 'stranded' soul, like most ghost are.

A 150 pages left in Psychic Defense. I started REALLY searching for
core images and how found all kinds of black slabs and other stuff.

I can also sense that there is some entity overshadowing me. Sometimes I got into a mode where 'I' feel like a completely other person and I am myself not that 'present' but in the background.

While this is very disturbing I find it also very teaching and exciting at the same time.

But one thing I am sure. I will give 'em Hell to deal with, because I am not the kind of person to let them feed on my energy [}:)]

I agree, Mystic Cloud.  I am not food and I am not going to be food.
Thankyouverymuch.

Silver Incubus, you make some good points.  Though your definition of a demon is the modern christian definition.  Mine though is the japanese demon, or youkai.  These were really just spirts that were able to take on a physical form, some came into being through the negitive thoughts of humans and that is why they were evil, but like humans, they also had emotions, these were overshadowed though by negitive thoughts that had corrupted them.  

Though many were just playful or acctually very wise, Japanesse myths tell the tales of many demons and other things and I like to reasearch on them.  I hope this clears things up a little.

Oh also, like I said a while back, I doubt that anybody really has any demon blood or at least a lot of it, though they may have a demons spirit that rebirthed in a human body.

Hi, I'm pretty new at all this, but I do believe that there are demons somewhere. What I would like to know is what is a pole-shift?

The concept of a pole-shift is that the earth will be flipped upside down. It is believed that the consequences of such a thing would be cataclysmic disaster, involving the continents to move at an unprecedented speed, causing massive earth quakes way off the charts, tidal waves, volcanic eruption, etc. There is no hard evidence to back the theory that a pole shift will occur, but many believe it will. Personally, I do not. I do foresee a great change occuring in the near future, but this could merely be the end of one age and the beginning of another. I support my beliefs with the facts that gas and oil prices are rising and have been for the last 20 years, the fact that Bush ticked off an awful lot of countries by attacking/invading two countries in the last four years, neither of which threatened or prepared to attack us. Bush also ignored international treaties, etc. His plans are finally being revealed to the general public (he knew about 9/11 long before it took place, and he planned to attack Iraq before 9/11, etc.). Other evidence is the fall of our economy, a lot of underlying tension in the US, which is on the rise, and the ever-increasing restriction of the average person's rights. All of this will eventually reach a point where it can no longer be contained. People will be too ticked off to just sit back and let it happen anymore. What will then happen is that there will be major changes in this country and hopefully the rest of the world as well. I am hoping the U.S. will fall from power before it wracks up even more hatred from other countries. There will be payback from these other countries, and the sh*t will hit the fan, and when it does, it's going to affect everything.

There are lots of people everywhere saying that some sort of change is going to occur in the very near future. I would have to say that I believe the changes will occur within the next ten years, maybe the next fifty at the most. People aren't as stupid as you might think, though there are enough stupid people in the world to make one think our race would lose a chess game to a monkey. The majority is often wrong, and they are not clever enough to think outside the box. They just live their life, working 9-5, six days a week, for some scrooge with little or no hair left, so that one day they can become the scrooge, and later on retire when they're too old to enjoy what little remains of their life because their life energy has been sapped from them in the process of earning the money to retire.

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amen, man. amen. [^]

Ack had to stop and reply to silvers post so if I double post exuse me.

Why are so many people convinced that demons are negative enregies. We are not talking about hell demons k just to settle that. We are talking about demons from the astral. The Astral demension exists right. So every now and then we travel there. I've heard a lot of people say they have capped a few demons in the astral. Now here is the big question Silver. If we keep knocking off demons in there own demension how come they are not extinct? Because they reproduce(please don't say they don't or I will cry). Now If we can have a affect on them they can have a affect on us right.

Who says a Demon can't get Jiggy with a human. Now please don't ever make me teach you about the birds and bees ever again.

I've been talking about a spiritual pole shift. The one that will merge the demensions. When ever i say that pole shifts are happening I mean that the demension (in different small parts) are merging. Just wanted to clear that up. People already think I'm crazy and I rather no think of the world summersaulting every 6 hours.

Well I agree that Bush has gone too far, although I do feel for these who lost their lives in 9/11. Every action has a consequence.

As for Earth flipping upside down, anything is possible but I can't see that happening in a very long time, if ever. Having said that, none of us really know what's going to happen for sure.

A while back, I was paralyzed by an evil presence. Was that a demon or something different?

As for pole shifts in the astral plane, I'm still no wiser as to what that means!

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Ack had to stop and reply to silvers post so if I double post exuse me.

Why are so many people convinced that demons are negative enregies. We are not talking about hell demons k just to settle that. We are talking about demons from the astral. The Astral demension exists right. So every now and then we travel there. I've heard a lot of people say they have capped a few demons in the astral. Now here is the big question Silver. If we keep knocking off demons in there own demension how come they are not extinct? Because they reproduce(please don't say they don't or I will cry). Now If we can have a affect on them they can have a affect on us right.

Who says a Demon can't get Jiggy with a human. Now please don't ever make me teach you about the birds and bees ever again.

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Im not saying that I know where demons come from but Positive demons? Gimme a break. What the word demon means is what it says. Japnaese demons, well Then I guess that they are not demons.

All i know for sure that all is everything, and everything is love and those who are abundant with the love are positive entities and those who lack the love are negative. Now don't make me get into Linguistics and how words have certain meanings. Demon is what represents the negative, and angels is what is the positive. That is how we defined it.

Since the astral exists with different characteristics that I am not very familiar with, I can't say for sure how things come into existance, but I truely doubt that demons procreate because that is a purely physical thing, and demons don't live in the material plane so they don't have sex and can't have sex with physical humans, but since energy is the underlining connection we have with the Oneness it seems that they can effect us through the manipulation of energy and through the taking of energy.

"The demon kind is of an intermediate nature between the divine and the human." --Sydenham.

demons have willpower, silver.  and with that willpower comes their choice to be positive or negative.  it's their decision how they choose to live out their existence (material or otherwise), just the same way as any human can choose to be good or evil.  to deny that is to also suggest that humans have no free will.

if that were true, then show this to whoever's controlling you [;)]

Namaste,
    There are no demons, but those that exist within the hearts and minds of all peoeples everywhere.  Ghandi said something like that.  And probably others before him.  Even those demons that are real, really aren't.

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"The demon kind is of an intermediate nature between the divine and the human." --Sydenham.

demons have willpower, silver.  and with that willpower comes their choice to be positive or negative.  it's their decision how they choose to live out their existence (material or otherwise), just the same way as any human can choose to be good or evil.  to deny that is to also suggest that humans have no free will.

if that were true, then show this to whoever's controlling you [;)]

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Who the hell is this and why does what he says matter???

some people just don't get it. Reality check people there is no reality.

Pai--You sound like you might have a sensitivity to this kind of thing (seeing ghosts and demons).  Try using the Bach Flower remedies Clematis, Holly, Heather, and Crab Apple, probably full strength. You might want to check with a homeopath to see if you can get some Carcinosinum too--perhaps a 200c.



O God, give me, I pray Thee,
Light on my right hand
and Light on my left hand
and Light above me
and Light beneath me.
Lord, increase Light within me
and give me Light
and illuminate me.

Ascribed to Mohammed

Actually, the physical poles did shift.  My compass pointas in a different direction now.[B)] Only about 15 degrees difference though.  Uh, to the left.

There are so many different beliefs here and I don't want to seem like the person who is trying to change your religon. Silver I think you should calm down and accept that even if we are saying demons it doesnt mean the its the type you are thinking about. Demon does not even translate to -A being of pure evil-. The threads are a place for listening. Try to use the correct attituide when discussing stuff or we will all take you for a prick. From now on when you see the word Demon replace it with the Words Astral Being k. Thats what we are talking about.

There was a kid who comitted suicide by our school. His spirit is still there. Clow, I dunno if you noticed this. He was 'talking' to me on left field during a softball game. His spirit is still distressed.

I think I finnally know what my dog barks at at night.  I know it isn't anything physical, as I always go out to check.  So about two nights I went outside and imedetlly I could feel something, it is the same feeling that you get when someone is staring at you.  I looked all around and didn't see anything, but I could pick up slight shifts in the air.  Sort of like the air was disturbed by something moving, I finally fiqured out what they were.  Negs!  Negs roam the streets of my neighborhood at night, probably from all the negitive energy that is given off by most of the people that live here.  Rather sucks, but the next morning I knew that I had my energy drained as I didn't want to get out of bed and I am usually a morning person.  

I wonder if I can put some sort of sheild up in my room, might have to look at the phycic defense fourm.

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There are so many different beliefs here and I don't want to seem like the person who is trying to change your religon. Silver I think you should calm down and accept that even if we are saying demons it doesnt mean the its the type you are thinking about. Demon does not even translate to -A being of pure evil-. The threads are a place for listening. Try to use the correct attituide when discussing stuff or we will all take you for a prick. From now on when you see the word Demon replace it with the Words Astral Being k. Thats what we are talking about.

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1. I do not have a religion, I live by a life philosophy i have called "The One" which one day may result in a religion but that's another story.

2. I think that you should just use astral being instead then. There is a reason we give words meanings, and demon just happens to be one of those words that has a specific meaning.

3. Don't think I am an butt because I disagree with you, I am in fact probbably one of the nicest people you'd ever meet.

Ive never seen any ghosts or anything, is there a any certain way to attact them. I dont care wether they are good or evil, i just want to see one.

Pai, I recommend that you either try to show the spirit the way to the afterlife, or show the spirit how to defend itself in the astral. The astral is a dangerous place if you linger there too long.

There is a rather large change that is coming. A lot of people are feeling this lately, but I doubt it has anything to do with demons. The war in the astral is over. Now we wait for the physical effects of that war.

There is a guy named John Titor, who posted on forums for about five months (from about November of 2000 to March of 2001), and then just vanished. No one has been able to track him down. He claims to have traveled to this time from the year 2036. He said that he lives in a post-nuclear-war world and that stuff there is really messed up. He says that in the year 2015 the nuclear war will take place, and that sometime this year or next there will be a civil war in the U.S. The website is http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/ if you want more info. Whether he's a hoax or not, you decide for yourself, but there's an awful lot of info there, which would be a heck of a lot of work just for a hoax. Also, the pictures he took of his time-traveling device and the manual shows a plausible theory of time travel. There are also links to the actual forum archives at which he posted, though it seems his posts are disappearing. Global trends seem to back up what he has said, and some of the things he 'predicted' are already coming true. There are links to the forums.

What Titor says also corresponds to what Stuart Wilde says (www.stuartwilde.com). Reading Stuart's articles and predictions, I'd say we're in for some pretty tough times in the next ten years, but that eventually things will be restored. He says the Goddess is coming back to take back what belongs to her -the earth- and that the idea of us humans owning the earth is just an illusion of the ego.

Stuart also predicts a tidal wave hitting Seattle (he says there's a large island off the coast as well as a bay protecting the city and that it would have to be a very big tidal wave to get past both those things). He didn't say when but I estimate within a year and a half.

Whether all this is true or not, I don't know. Does it really matter? No. The best thing we can do is just live our lives and try to be good people. Forgive people for whatever wrongs they did you and hope that others forgive you. Life is too short to be stuck on the things someone did to you. I don't know about you, but I plan to enjoy whatever of my life remains, whether it's ten years or sixty years.

As the sun rose upon the earth and Lot entered Zoar, the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah sulfurous fire from the Lord out of heaven.  He annihilated those cities and the entire Plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities and the vegetation of the ground.  Lot's wife looked back, and she thereupon turned into a pillar of salt.

--Genesis 19, 23-26

avgdaftzktklmnsftckrsht--Hebrew writing on the wall.

Yerzack, ghosts are around anyways and i don't recommend attracting one.
Back to the original topic of this thread, I havn't seen(or sensed) any spirits in a while for some reason, has anyone else?
And that John Titor thing sounds interesting, I'll have a look.

Hi Wendi

I remember reading that quote in our analysis of the bible class. One thing is clear: God hates rivalry. That quote has nothing to do with rivalry, but I think in the old testament God was a bit P.O'd after his plan went wacko. One thing that seems to be happening is God learning from man. Cain commits the first murder in the bible... then God wipes out all humans except Noah and his family. Then Abraham confronts him about justice, so God takes on the idea of justice... Then Job suffers endlessly and wins an argument with God about why he had to suffer. Then Jesus comes along. Haven't heard much from God since, but he seems to be learning from man. Also, Satan and God seem to be on friendly terms. He invites Satan into Heaven to talk to him about Job. Satan seems more like a servant of God, testing those who serve God.

Also, do you notice who God makes covenants with and what they were like? Abraham challenged God many times, making points that God seems not to have considered at the time. I think God thought Noah was kind of boring... he didn't question anything God did, didn't ask why it was necessary. God said "Do this" and Noah said "Okay" and did it.

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Off topic but interesting...[;)]

Sensed a spirit the other day.  It seemed cat-like so I petted(is that a word?) it and my cat got all jealous and freaked out.  Wasn't a neg though, but it wasn't good either.  Just animal-like.
Though there was a negative prescence in the upstairs of my house last night and it was weird cause it didn't feel like the energy sucking type, so I made a face at it then ignored it, but I kept seeing flashes of dark murky gray out of the corner of my eye.  Ya know those little streaks of golden light that seem to zoom by sometimes?  It was like that but dark gray.
Watcha think?

i have a neg that follows me every where i go. he is about 5'11 and he where a black suit. he wispers negitve thoughts in my head. he tryes to make me go to the "bad side". I tell hem to leave and he will but he comes around ever so ofter i think. somtimes thoughts pop into my head that no one in there right mind would think of.

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Pai, I recommend that you either try to show the spirit the way to the afterlife, or show the spirit how to defend itself in the astral. The astral is a dangerous place if you linger there too long.

There is a rather large change that is coming. A lot of people are feeling this lately, but I doubt it has anything to do with demons. The war in the astral is over. Now we wait for the physical effects of that war.

There is a guy named John Titor, who posted on forums for about five months (from about November of 2000 to March of 2001), and then just vanished. No one has been able to track him down. He claims to have traveled to this time from the year 2036. He said that he lives in a post-nuclear-war world and that stuff there is really messed up. He says that in the year 2015 the nuclear war will take place, and that sometime this year or next there will be a civil war in the U.S. The website is http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/ if you want more info. Whether he's a hoax or not, you decide for yourself, but there's an awful lot of info there, which would be a heck of a lot of work just for a hoax. Also, the pictures he took of his time-traveling device and the manual shows a plausible theory of time travel. There are also links to the actual forum archives at which he posted, though it seems his posts are disappearing. Global trends seem to back up what he has said, and some of the things he 'predicted' are already coming true. There are links to the forums.

What Titor says also corresponds to what Stuart Wilde says (www.stuartwilde.com). Reading Stuart's articles and predictions, I'd say we're in for some pretty tough times in the next ten years, but that eventually things will be restored. He says the Goddess is coming back to take back what belongs to her -the earth- and that the idea of us humans owning the earth is just an illusion of the ego.

Stuart also predicts a tidal wave hitting Seattle (he says there's a large island off the coast as well as a bay protecting the city and that it would have to be a very big tidal wave to get past both those things). He didn't say when but I estimate within a year and a half.

Whether all this is true or not, I don't know. Does it really matter? No. The best thing we can do is just live our lives and try to be good people. Forgive people for whatever wrongs they did you and hope that others forgive you. Life is too short to be stuck on the things someone did to you. I don't know about you, but I plan to enjoy whatever of my life remains, whether it's ten years or sixty years.

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There is a Psychic with predictions for the next 100 years. She is my faverit Psychic and i just now went to that section here web sight here is here predictions http://www.sylvia.org/home/2000plus.cf.

Hey Smooth that link didn't work..  

www.sylvia.org  Then look on the left column for predictions..[:D]

I'd read these predictions years ago in one of her books..veeeeeery interesting..[^]

Nay

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The majority is often wrong, and they are not clever enough to think outside the box. They just live their life, working 9-5, six days a week, for some scrooge with little or no hair left, so that one day they can become the scrooge, and later on retire when they're too old to enjoy what little remains of their life because their life energy has been sapped from them in the process of earning the money to retire.

    That means that the REALLY intelligent among us speculate that we were demons in our past lives and other people can read our auras and vibrations through expensive colonic irrigations.

My name is Ronn and i need a bit of help.  Lately i have discovered some evidence of demons in the area behind my house.  I estimate that there are about 3 imps, and i was curious as how to go about hunting them.  When im in the woods i can hear them running about the trees above me, yet they disappear before i can get a confirmation on their identity.  Is there a way to call them out so that they are slowed and unable to hide, or a way to sharpen my sight and see them.
e-mail:ozzfan1987@yahoo.com
aim sn: kleindraig87
Blessed Be,
Ronn

Yeah, I see the e-mail, but I'm already here [:D]. So, from my understanding, Imps are difficult to kill. Fire, water, and electricity won't work on them, so don't even think about it. Uhm, they seem to appear somewhere if they are needed, so perhaps somebody has summoned them to get on your nerves, or perhaps something more devious? Your best bet is to do something to scare them off for good (most usually won't leave until they've finished their job, but then again they are cowards and can be afraid; also they're curious creatures as well, so if you do something to arous their curiousity and [i'd say capture, but they'd probably just phase or something] do something to them, like using the scare tactic). Uhm, also, if somebody has summoned them to aggitate you, or whatever, you can meditate or whatever to find who's doing it and put a stop to them? I'm kinda not bright in stopping summoners and things as such. And I might have made a few mistakes in other places . . .[xx(]
Good luck, anyway [|)]

ok lets see, some of these i believe, people have seen many things, the black and white swirl to me sounds like a croda, harmless things merley a spiritual energy of what once was there and longs to be there still, if you want the low down on any deamonjs or apparitions what you really need to do is get your own book of shadows, and yes they have one on charmed, im not stealing it from telly they really exist, you can look it up on the net but its inacurate.

A book of shadows is merely the accounts of your successions and failures at magic, right?

thanks for the help guys, im not really worried about what could happen to me but i would enjoy slaying demons once again.  mostly to prove the ability of my body, i would ask about summonin my own minions but i understand that im just not quite ready for that.  if caught in combat, what would be good skills to have handy as in archey or close combat?  (im good with either)

I was reading something (this is way off topic and everything, but I don't really give a carp) about demons and stuff, and saw written down the word necrophilia, which I had just thought meant love for the dead, since necro means dead and philia means love. It said this meant sex with the dead . . . Well, if that's true, then does ailurophilia mean sex with cats . . . 'cause I have told a lot of people that i'm an ailurophiliac, but I just meant that I love cats, not that I've been having sex with them . . . I'll go lookin' through the net in a few, just wanted to post this . . .

Battling imps are hard, I'd say. MAybe it's just me who thinks so, but it's not like you can keep track of them, unless you got some way to keep them from vanishing or phasing. And they're immune to a lot of weapons for some odd reason. *sighs* Oh well, perhaps you can lure them to you with curiousity, then step on them, hehe [;)] [:P]

Also, I found this and thought it was stupid/funny, and thought that some people might like to read it or whatever. I'd give you a review, but I don't have one. http://tomstyle.com/scripts/devilcreatures.htm [|)]

For the imps, which I can only guess would be like an Oni of japanesse lore, I would suggest that you use a bladed weapon, a sword if you can find one and charge it with spiritual energy, if you know how. (if you don't know how, a blessing ceremony will do) It would be safe to say that they would be ripped to shreds, though be careful as Oni can get pretty big and I wouldn't like to find out those are just babies and the mother shows up.

thanks yet again.  uh the few swords i have im probably only confident in 1 of them and its not all that big.  would anyone know where i could find a durable functional blade that would be capable of piercing demon flesh?(at a low price) lol

eh
P.S. how do i communicate with them if an encounter ensues?

Well, I have never seen one, so I can't offer much advice on that.  I would suggest that you don't try and talk things out as I have read Oni are sappouse to be fierce and eat human flesh, but those writings could be wrong.

well even though im only half human, that happens to be the fleshy part so maybe i should kill first ask questions later lol.  on a side note, the one animal that im afraid of, snake, appeared in a place where nobody has seen one before (4 foot blacksnake); prior to killing it i felt as if it was taunting me, which caused my attack to be hesitant.  could the "oni?" have sent it as a test for me?

sounds like a summoner to me playing on your fears and things. maybe theyre just jealous or angry because like you had said youre only half human. i dont think its an oni but i might be wrong after all. who knows? you said you killed the snake? how so? interesting if its remains were there or if it had dissolved after its death. need more information.

ps this isn't the real immuredsoul im just on his name

well the snake was real, disposed of it earlier today.  to kill it i smashed its head against a tree with a 2x4. that was after knocking it off the tree once and holding it down with cinder blocks.  like i said, only animal im scared of.

Yah later I will help the spirit passover. Damn I hate ghosts but oh well.

 Ender are you sure that the war is over in the Astral. A couple nights ago I fouught a curropted astral being. My power animal helped me through the fight on strategies but none the less it was different. So ender if you could search for a being that curropts other beings it would be helpful.

Back to the ghost though.  A couple weeks ago a higschools student commited suicide by our school. We were in school and everyone rushed to the windows. When my bus passed the tracks me and kyle felt something. So yah I will check it out. Damn for something that I have chosen to specialize necrophobia does not help.

Well Clow, I don't know of a being that has that power.  Though there is something like that, you need something from that person and a doll that looks like then, it is like voodoo, but it wasn't from there that I heard of it.  With this you are able to control whatever action you want, but the doll has to be made out of a special material and I forget what it is.

As for something controling someone from the physical.  That can be done by a neg with total control, it was said that youkai that had died were able to possess human bodies to continue living, but those were only ones that were evil.  All I can say about that feeling you got is that, was it a chill feeling run up your spine and made you on edge?  If it was then that is Jaiki and it is produced from evil thoughts in a person or youkai, it could mean that either the person that commited suicide was possesed, or maybe it was someone else entirely.

<sigh> I had been looking for a place to discuss my more secret and colorful moments in my life that normal pplz wouldnt understand. On that note I shall share the scariest moment in my life. Plz keep in mind that this is my first post, and I have no training nor have I read books on this topic. All that I share here is purely based on my experiences.

Just as a little backround, I have a wide variety of psionic gifts that I am only begining to descover. The one that concerns demons is my ability of mind control.

I got this gift on the night before valentines day when I was six. It worked scary well. However it required me to leave my body for it to work. Now.... this brings us to my encounter with demons.

This gift caused them to take attention to me. Shortly after I began using this gift I began to have absolutly horrible nightmares. The ones that give you a cold sweat. I got those every night. Not only that but the more I left my body the more I was visited by some wholly evil things. My time span b4 they arrived kept getting shorter and shorter until that fateful day...

I carelessly used it for too long. I was traveling quite fast thru this long swirling wormholy thingie that I always do. But this time I came face to face with the scariest thing I have *ever* seen. I had no time to stop or move out of the way..... As I closed in it opened its mouth and I went in.

I instantally woke up. I thought it was a nightmare....but something was *horribly* wrong. I sat up quickly from my bed....and it felt like I was watching a bad movie. My limbs wouldnt move and all I could do was watch. I got out of bed after cracking my knuckles and looked into the mirror. Although the face was mine....the eyes...they werent. Once this happened I began to panic. I kept thinking it was another bad dream and fought violentally to wake up. Nothing happened.....panicing further cuz I came to the realization of what was happening... I was possesed.....like something out of the excorcist.

I went into the kitchen giggling wildly and got the largest knife that we had. I then crept into my sisters room.. hovering over her sleeping body with glee. Just before it had the chance to stab her I gathered all the strength I had to fight it off. I managed to stop it mid-swing...from there I forced my self <difficultly> out of the room, literly crawling on my hands an knees trying to fight it off.

Once In the hallway I began to gain ground...I couldnt...I WOULDNT let this bastard hurt my family or myself. With all my remaining strength I collected it all together and blasted myself with all the PSI energy I had in hopes that I could do something to stave it off.

Needless to say that instant was the absolute the most pain and anguish I have ever felt in my life. I felt like someone knocked the wind outta me but much harder almost like a tearing feeling, like my soul was being ripped from my body.

Fortunatly it worked.... the thing was flung from me about 3 feet or so from my body. The hazy / shadawy figure was shocked and did the "WTF" manuver and looked quite disoriented <as was I>. Once I realized I was back in control I began to back away from the thing. It also figured out what happened and began to run away. With my remaining strength I managed to get off a mid-sized PSI blast <shockwavy orb thingie> into its back ripping it to shreds.

Feeling terrible and dizzy I crawled back to my bed and quickly passed out. I soon had the feeling I was being watched.. I opened my eyes and noticed  I was not in my room anymore and everything was out of focus from this orangish haze. As things began to clear I saw the most beautiful and awe inspiring thing Ive ever seen. I believe it was what pplz would consider an angel... but it looked really different.

It looked humaniod but lacked gender. Everything from the torso down was whispy and appeared to lack individual legs...but rather they blended together. Also the wings looked more like hands, lacking feathers. I looked into its eyes and it seemed to know me. It took me by the hand and showed / told me things <which I cannot remember>. Whatever it was it totally changed my life forever. I learned that this thing was my guide and helped me overcome the horrible nightmares and visiters.

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From I have helped a great number of pplz overcome what you guys call negs. My harrowing experience with demons has led me to hate / loath them. The only good demon in my eyes is a dead one. Demons do not deserve to live. They are a parasite on the living and wholly self-serving. They live by taking from others and hating the life that they dont have.

Im not sure what my purpose in life is <which is why Im here seeking guidence / advice> but I know it is important. 2 psychics that do extensive work with the police were taken aback by me. They told me that I have 2 *very* powerful angelic/good beings looking over / protecting me. They best they could describe them was that they could be considered "arkangels".

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IMHO... if you encounter a demon...kill it. Dont ever delay and do not hesitate, they wish only to destry and maim the things they do not have....INCLUDING YOU!!

Also... let this be a warning. If you are to devolp psionic abilities and explore the Astral... learn as many defensive abilites as you can. It may save your life or the lives of those around you. Thank god I learned what I did.
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Just today under meditation I found out why the "demons" wanted me dead. My "mind control" focus around base emotion...more specifically chakra and aura control. One of my now close friends was a satanist. His guide was a high level demon and it showed. Once I began to talk to him, he later told me that he felt compelled to not contact his the guide he called "Duke Murmur". Looking back I now realize what everthing meant.

I have the ability to stop demons at the core by cutting them off the aura and the chakara they need from the living to manifest / sustain themselves. Such a gift is incredibally dangerous, seeing that I could and did kill / banish an arch-demon type thing, easily, by making it wholly powerless.

It would also explain how I was able to totally modify / compress my Aura pattern so that its a hard shell thats 1-2 millimeters off my skin instead of the normal foot that most pplz have.

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Take this for what's its worth. I just hope that someone dosnt make the same mistakes that I have.

Sentential.. I will not profess that I know what it was you experienced, because some of it is unclear to me.  

Part of it sounds like you were in paralysis, and usually when that happens, some very scary things happens (that is the perfect time to scare and make you feel extremely vulnerable)

When you say you got up and looked in the mirror, then went to get a knife, this is where you loose me.  Where you awake, when you got the knife to kill your sister?  And if you were..well..I'll stop now, cause that is just wild.  I'm not to up on being possessed, but my knowledge on it, I thought the person didn't realize it.

You would be extremely surprised how real the astral is, or a dream for that matter.  May I ask you if you get along with your sister..and please..LOL..be honest..[:P]  

Nay [^]

Nah man.... Im quite close to my family and love them dearly. They have been through the bad times, think and thin. More so than anyone I know. But that was scary and I mean REALLY scary. It was not me, Not at all. The best I can describe it it was like watching a bad movie. All the sounds were muffeled and distorted... it was really REALLY scary. That wasn't paralysis... hell no. I felt like a puppet on strings. It My limbs moved freely on their own accord as if it were a reflex action. I had no control until I forced that "THING" out of my body and mind

I know it sounds really wild, thus I never really spoke about it. My sister was dead asleap the whole time... she dosnt know about it, even to this day. I wouldnt dare tell her. Hell only my mother knows Im gifted, and thats only by cooincidence.

Her frends were psychic and picked up my traces on her. When they scanned her they demanded they speak with me.

<back on topic>

I hope that no one EVER goes thru possession. It still sends shivers down my spine to this day. I have NEVER met such evil to this day.

As I said, I know why the wanted me dead. They realized what I could do to them. I already banished a high level demon, killed another and several smaller ones.

Needless to say they dont bother me, but some are quite persistant. I just hope that I may bring peace to troubled pplz with the gift like I once was.

The story has an upside. Once I met my guide or alteast one of them, I cannot begin to describe the peace it has brought me. I know they stand with me always. Within them has the ability to protect the living from such horror.

I still dont know WTF that thing was...but it was evil....an evil Ive never seen since.

[:D] Ok..no need to cuss..

I'll be honest, LOL..like I'm not any other time.[:P]  The word gifted showed up a couple of times.  I get real leary of people saying they are gifted..  

We are all given the same tools, some have learned to use the tools and others are still learning.  Using the line that you are gifted is just another way of feeling important...in my opinion.[^]

I can't explain your experience then....[:(]  My tools haven't dealt with that yet.

Nay

Ahhhhhh[:D]...its finally good to talk to pplz who understand. You are correct I shouldnt over inflate my ego like that.But yes, I really shouldnt use "gifted" like I do. Its just become a habit since Im surrounded my non-enlightened pplz / disbelievers. But yes... lol you pplz are quite good, and Im quite glad to be here.

I really hate to butcher my words / thoughts like this, but I dont know the lingo yet you guys use yet. However Im always willing to learn new things. Especially from pplz who are like myself.

Also my appologies... didnt mean to offend at all with the cussing (editing posts). Im so used to a swear filter [:D].

Finally, be *VERY* glad you havent gone though this. Im pretty limited to what I can do... especially OBE. I get the sense they they are quite angry at me....not like Im painting a friggin target on my back. Ive had to do alot to stave them off...and I know its *NOT* because of the vibs I throw off. I am quite a postive and happy person.

Although it was overall an enlightening experience. I just had to clarify that the things that pplz consider "demons" are extrodinarly dangerous, as I have found out. The pplz I have spoken to seem to think that they are almost harmless. That cant be further from the truth, Ive found that out first hand

I only wish they there was some way to get them to go away for good. Right now the only reason why they leave me alone is because I have given the ultimatum, that if I see *any* spirit within my field of view, Ill blow it away without hesitation.... so far thats worked pretty well.

Ive had to scare a few off <and I realize thats not a good tactic>, but its all I can think of. It seems like Im a magnet for spirits of all kinds. Unfortunatly I havent honed my ability to tell friend from foe. So until I get my 3rd eye to focus a little better and increase communication from my guide, no spirit will be allowed to be near me. Not until I work stuff out on my end.

No way am I gonna have a re-peat of the BS I went through as a kid. No one deserves that kinda fate

Sentential, it sounds like this 'gift' of yours is exactly like what a miko of the Warring States era of Japan would have.  Purifiying the energy that a demon feeds off of and killing it, very interesting.  Though you have only encountered demons that are filled with hate and malice over the fact that they don't have something, like you have said.  I am sure that you could eventually find others, basicly other astral beings are made in basicly the same way, they share the same type of energy, but the key difference is that the ones that are good, don't give off a slighly different energy.  Youkai, or demons as they are known in the western world give off an energy called youki, but when evil they will also give off an energy called jyaki.  In fact Jyaki can also be givin off by humans that are just very evil, this in turn can attract demons to feed off that negitive energy.

It sounds like in your case a neg wanted to have your body to be able to get the energy that it needed and if he were to kill your family then it would have feed off your saddness.  You are very lucky to have fended it off.

Oh, could you describe what your eyes looked like when you saw them in the mirror that night.

Thnx for the info. Whatever that thing was, it Im not entirely sure it was looking for energy, but who knows. The impression that my guide gives me is that he wanted to stop me. To prevent me from becoming an adult and killing myself or instutionizaling me. I still dont know why I had importance in their eyes.

Their plan backfired tho. They still try to seek me out, but they are too damn scared at this point. I have taken on high level demon out already, banished another, and killed several lesser ones. Ive seen a few wandering spirits, but they run like hell when I charge up another PSI blast

As for the eyes they looked wholly evil. Not mine. I usually have a slight twinkle in my eyes <you know>. Those eyes were cold and as black as steel. Like there was no life behind them.

As for my impronto excorcism I basically grabbed myself from OBE and pulled and tugged as best I could. Once out in the hall way I almsot body slammed myself / PSI blasted to force it out like a sledgehammer effect almost.

Needless to say it was a bit overkill and quite painful, but when you are in total panic you tend to resort to such measures.

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I know im not being very clear, and I appologies. Im still trying to learn the lingo. What I consider a PSI blast is something I came up with as a psionic attack.

When I was a child I tried to hide from the demons under my bed sheets. To further camoflage and protect myself, I heavily compressed my aura into a thick and ridged shell. Instead of the normal 1foot , 1/2 foot distance from the skin. My aura lies about 1-2 millimeters from my body. Ive also compressed my chakra points as well.

Unfortunatly that tactic didnt work well, infact it made things worse cuz now I show up alot more, almost like a becon since the light is so dense now.

However, this sheild is very protective. I have yet to see a neg sucessfully attack me, or get a grip on me. In otherwords its as slippery as an eel and hard as a rock.

This gets to the PSI blast. I first learned that move when I killed my former possessor. As I held my hand up to it a large shockwave from my aura condensed in the palm of my hand and shot foreward. Snce my aura is so compressed it went off like a shotgun blast and tore the demon to bits.

Anyway... Im still learning. I really dont know if such a thing exists. If it does plz tell me what's its called
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^^ What is that? Ive never heard of it.

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Purifiying the energy that a demon feeds off of and killing it, very interesting

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^^ Its not quite that. Its more like sealing it b4 you crush it out of existence. Kinda like what you would do with a paper towel to kill a bee or scorpion / wasp

EDIT: My guide has clarified it for me. This is how he puts it: "The only way to fight fire with fire is to remove the source".

In other words its like smothering a fire. Its really hard to kill a large fire with water alone. Now throw a inflammible blanket over it and strip it of oxygen, and it quickly burns itself out.

ie: Seal the demon's ability to draw life and it will quickly burn itself out via suffocation, or atleast weaken it to the point where it is an easy kill.

A miko is a priestess.  What you describe is what I was getting at.

Though why they would want you dead is a mystery to me.  Either you are just too powerful in your respect to be ignored by them or you have some significance in the future that they might know about, maybe you should question your guide about it, but with things like this I have found that it is often spoken in riddle and they really make you think to know what the awnser truely is.

I guess this is the only thing that hasnt really been said lol. Sentinal don't rule out all demons as evil *raises hand* cuz i along with many others actually enjoy human company and seek only to be friends.  Im not saying to trust everyone of them, but don't rule out the possibility that they may be trying to help.  No being is wholly good or evil, and you have to know how to tell where their balance is.[:)]  Closedmindedness is doomed to be the downfall of our Earth, i ask all of you to please not contribute.[:D]

I appologse once again. I use the word "demon" because I know nothing else to express the hatred they posssesed.

Ive asked *several* people about WTF has happened to me, and why was I targeted. I keep getting the same responses, ie "Oh, dont worry about it, it happens to everyone" BS[xx(]. Even the 2 psychics buried their heads in the sand about it. I asked them and they said that it "didnt matter since they are gone now...does it?".

Im awaiting a response from Spectral Dragon.... maybe then Ill get some candid anwser for once. I *really* need some information, cuz I know there must be a reason.

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Whatever they were, they wanted dead. Plain and simple. My mother said when I was a baby I would scream at night in a cold sweat, as if I were fearing for my life. Naturally I didnt have any recliation of my first 2-3 years of my life.

But I can recount on several occasions where they entered, with the intent of scaring me or doing harm. In fact one tried to choke me to death in sleep paralysis.

A good way of describing what they are is like most say around here.  Negetive entity, though I would more call them "Hell Spawn".  Youkai would be more connected to creatures like eleves and dwarves of lore, but most other ones could be something from your worst nightmare.  

The creatures that you encounter are only made of negitive energy caused by someone else, basicly they are just like pure intangible jyaki, if enough of it gathered then it could start affecting the physical, like not being able to breath (its not becuase it strangles you, more like it corrupts the air), shadows moving and such like that.

However for Youkai, they are good or evil, the ones that are more human 'like' are concious of their actions, while others are animal like and just run on the instinct of kill, feed and protect territory.  Though if they really did exist, the lower class Youkai would have been wiped out and the high class that have a human form would have intigrated into human socity.  I think it would be very interesting if they were real.

I really dont know. They didnt feel like they were simple "around and got bored". It felt more like they were assassins.Remember I can see them clear as day.

They didnt enter and linger around out of curiosity. It was more of a...<thats strange, why am I getting this feeling of dread> WTF!?!?!. They entered quite quickly and left just the same. A couple popped in and out every now and then. But this didnt feel like an ordinary haunting. They obviously came from somewhere. Where?... I dont know

heres a tip, lie your a** off to demons.  they will stay distant and dormant if they think you have lots of power.  dont threaten them, but visit the area they lie in and act as if you are hunting for them.  ive managed to keep the oni stolin informed me about pretty secluded this way.  although i still wish to kill them [}:)].  also im still looking for a cheap strong sword to use if anyone knows a place...

Blessed be and i wish all of you luck in demon-warding/slaying
if anyone ever wants to chat my aim sn is kleindraig87, i enjoy hearing and telling tales of the astral world.

Hmmm.... I dont think that lying will work. They are quite ticked at me. I never threatened them. I just took action[}:)]. They wanted a piece of me....and they got more than they could chew.

I dont have to lie at this point. Ive already killed a high level "demon"...whatever (the one who possessed me). Just b4 he died I could sense the horrible fear he had of me, as he ran for his life away from my collapsed body. It only got about 2 strides or so in b4 the blast tore him into oblivion.

Also there have been several others that tried to harm me, that didnt go well..... lmao, Not to mention banishing an incredibally powerful satanist's guide, who <the person, not the guide> has become my closest friend.

Ive never seen a more powerful / talented psyke in my life. He was telling me about his experiences with PK. And laughed off my shock as he was telling me how he lifts his text books and plays around with them( "like a thousand pages or so.... but they are soft bound so thats not a big deal")[:O].

Needless to say, more then ever... they want me dead[xx(] The only reason why they havent tried anything as of late, is cuz they know Ill just destroy them like the rest.

Altough I really wish I didnt have to do this... Im looking into methods where they could be converted and not destroyed.

d00d Im gonna AIM you...totally. I'd love to hear another perspective <adding to buddy list>

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Ive asked *several* people about WTF has happened to me, and why was I targeted. I keep getting the same responses, ie "Oh, dont worry about it, it happens to everyone" BS[xx(]. Even the 2 psychics buried their heads in the sand about it. I asked them and they said that it "didnt matter since they are gone now...does it?".

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Sentential,

I agree with you, it doesn't happen this way to everyone.

It should be evident that these skills (gifts you call them) which you use are carried over from many other lives. You've been diving into deep water (spiritually speaking) for a long time and you've learned to swim and fend for yourself in situations which most younger souls don't know how to navigate in yet. The fact that you've gained mastery in this respect threatens negative astral beings who would like to run things and have their way.

I had a childhood similar to yours, except that I've never been fully posessed, thank God. But I've had many, many battles with negs. Sometimes they took months to resolve. It was during my late teens and through the years of my twenties that I learned the hard way not to give any quarter to astral entities. Like you, I decided that it was best not to engage with them or consider that "some might be helpful or friendly". Nope.

I would add to this that you can't be content to be a one trick pony with your psi blasts though. Consider for a moment that there are probably extremely experienced demons who have tricks which you haven't encountered yet.... In order to be ready for them, you must take stock of your weaknesses and correct them. By weaknesses I'm talking about vanity, fear, anger, arrogance and psychological/emotional states like that. Believe me, there are evil  beings who are really, really good at duping people who have nothing but a ray gun in their hands.

Dude, please don't think I'm putting you down. I really appreciate knowing you and having you here posting on this forum. We need to band together and help each other. I just want to say that I'm an old fart, 44 years old, and I've been swimming in these waters all my life too. And one of the most important things that I've learned is that a wise man has an idea of how much he *DOESN'T KNOW*. It's a precarious thing. You must have confidence in order to make it, we all know that. But overconfidence or arrogance is a huge achilles heel which is easily preyed upon by smart negs.

In the old Hermetic Mystery Schools one of the prime tasks was to help souls learn to be motivated only by unselfish love. At the same time, they went through hell to have purged from them all lower passions and emotional seeds. The final stage of this was the "slaying of the dweller on the threshold", the emotional elemental which travels along with the soul through all incarnations and is the aggregation of all the lower desires, passions and emotions ever indulged in by the soul. After this purging there is enormous power given to the student, much more than any of us knows of or uses, for it is a high stage of initiation.

My point in this enormous diatribe is that power can only be retained through great care and discernment. Those who use their power and opportunities with humility and in service to others have more power added to them. Those who use them for personal gain or against others, have that which they had taken away.

Very nice to meet you. [:)]

Thankyou.... I cannot thank you enough. Im glad to hear that I am not the only one. Do you have an AIM screen-name? I would really like to talk to you.

As you can imagine, Im rather confused by all the forces that are pushing and pulling me at the moment. It feels like im in a constant battle of "tug-of-war" between the demonic and angelic. Both sides with to me for some task of theirs

Wow, that was a very nice post.  I like what you said about there being evils that know how to dupe someone.  Like reverse phycology, it is very scary to think that you are doing exactly what something wants when you thought you were doing the opposite.

Well.... its a little complicated. There are a *great* numbers of questions I asked Spectral Dragon. I really hope I can find some clarity in him. My guide is bein a royal pain in the arse However...My guide let one cat out of the bag today: Guide = <G>

<Me> Im so confused as to what is going on right now in my life. I mean hell I thought I had things all set up, and now everything is detoriating before my eyes.
<G> I know...
<Me> Well I was honestally hoping that your constant pressuring of me to join these forums would help me.... so far it has only raised more questions. Especially with my encounters with demons. You have been ignoring my questions on this subject... WHY!?!?!
<G>....
<Me> You said that my abilities was what got me into trouble... correct?
<G>......(very quietly).... negitive energy
<Me> What about it? You said that a long time ago. I stopped using them for that reason.... but all of a sudden they have been coming back to me, in full force. Not only that but they have increased in strenght 10 fold.... and I know its not a factor of me returing to my old self, cuz its only brought much happiness to the people Im around....unlike before.... right??
<G> Yes
<Me> But its still neg energy...correct?
<G> .....
<Me> ...Wait a minute....WAIT JUST A DAMN MINUTE!!... I can *safely* channel neg energy!?!?.....But I can also do positive energy as well.., possibly even at the same time....WHY IS THAT!?!?
<G>.....(very aprehensive... pulling the perverbial "..Ah ****") ....just wait for what Spectral Dragon says tonight
<Me> So THATS IT!?!?... Thats why you've been playing coy with me?!?!
<G> All things will be revealed soon enough....
<Me> Like what?
<G> (angerily) I will say *NO* more on this matter!

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It seems there is *quite* a bit they failed to mention about me[xx(]...Grr All I want is to get my life in order

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Originally posted by Sentential

Thankyou.... I cannot thank you enough. Im glad to hear that I am not the only one. Do you have an AIM screen-name? I would really like to talk to you.

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No AIM, sorry. You can PM me if you'd like. But it might be useful and instructive to keep it in the forum here for others to participate in.

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Originally posted by Sentential
As you can imagine, Im rather confused by all the forces that are pushing and pulling me at the moment. It feels like im in a constant battle of "tug-of-war" between the demonic and angelic. Both sides with to me for some task of theirs

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At this point in my life I feel as though I'm almost never challenged by this stuff any more. But it's not ME or MY POWERS that are the reason. Instead, it's the alliances I've built over the years with mighty beings such as Archangel Michael and Jesus. To be the humble servant/student of one such as these, brings protective powers which can't be compared to ordinary "psychic warrior" type tricks.

That and also, a powerful relationship with ones own higher self is the real deal and the key to freedom and peace. We all have a guide which is an advanced soul who shepherds us through our incarnations and it's a good thing. But what the guides job to do is to guide you to your own higher self--that's the point of it all. And if a person fixates on trying to get answers to everything from the guide, then he is probably not paying enough attention to cultivating oneness with his higher self. I only speak to and get answers from my guide a few times per year or less. The rest of the time I'm working full tilt at becoming the incarnation of my own higher self. When you are in those high moments of meditation and you've managed to blend your mind with your higher self, then you simply know the answers.

I'm not sure what you mean by "channeling neg energy". It might help though if you place your attention squarely on something which changes your fundamental vibration to a high frequency so that they can't find you and attack you. Here is one way to do it:

Check out these pix:

http://www.prismgraphicdesign.com/presence.jpg

These are various artists renderings of the higher self of man and the relationship which can be established by daily communion. The higher self or "I AM Presence" is the upper figure and the guy standing on the ground is you and me. If you look up to that blazing Light above you each day and ask for it, you will receive the cylinder of white light protection which you see in the pix. Also, it raises your vibration a lot to simply put your attention on this by looking at the picture and contacting your own presence above you by talking to Him and asking Him to come into your heart.

Not only that, but day after day as you commune with and surrender to your own higher self, a little more of that presence and light will descend into your own body. Until one day you become an adept, or incarnation of your higher self. See what THIS looks like:

http://www.prismgraphicdesign.com/adept_aura.jpg

See what your guide says about this.

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Wow, that was a very nice post.  I like what you said about there being evils that know how to dupe someone.  Like reverse phycology, it is very scary to think that you are doing exactly what something wants when you thought you were doing the opposite.

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Yes, an experienced demon or black magician can easily scan us and see what our psychological vulnerabilities are. They are usually emotion or desire oriented such as fear, anger, avarice or sensuality, but it could be pride also.

Then they work you 24 hours a day with dialog and thoughtforms and emotions which are designed to get your thinking along the lines of your weakness, such as anger, for instance. And once they have you really angry or horny or whatever, they have an easier time vibrating their own self in that frequency and slipping into your aura.

If you want to become immune to all this, gain control of all your emotions and become humble. You'll know you're getting there when you are happy all day long, every day, and everyone seems to like you. Some people don't think it's possible to be happy all the time because bad things can happen. But you can train yourself so that your emotions are untethered from your circumstances and surroundings.

Some people persist and ask, "how can I simply make myself feel happy if I'm in pain or among unpleasant people, etc.?". The trick I use is to consciously go over the long list of things that I'm grateful for. Gratitude has a way of blooming happiness in us. Anyway, it works for me. And demons have a heck of a time penetrating into a person whose aura is beaming with gratitude and happiness. They just can't stand the feeling and they don't know how to vibrate themselves at that frequency. So they move on.

He wont say anthing. He's still pretty ticked that he told me about what I am capable of.

Spirituality on that level is out of the question (what he will anwser). Right now he only anwsers on general topics and day-to-day issues.

Still waiting on Spectral Dragon. My guide basically said he wont talk about "that" until I hear from him, which is kinda frustrating.

As for the neg energy bit. Many of the things I learned as a child would fall under the catagory of "neg energy / black magic". Keep in mind that I had no idea the severity of the things I was learning (on my own). They simply came out of curiosity and neccesity.

This could explain why I was kept on a *very* tight leash for a number of years, after my possession. Now that they are slacking up again, my long lost abilites are begining to surface again.

However unlike before, I am a changed man and very aware of what I am doing now. I know what these thigns are and am doing my absolute best to supress everything.

Oddly, they dont have the same *feel* like they once did.(just quickly practing PSI blasts) Although it is negitive energy, the effects dont last long and the severity of the anger / faults have been kept minimal. However I can still feel it gnawing at me slightly, every now and then, but for the meantime its well under control.

In fact the energy feels different. In many respects, it feels like a blend between pos and neg, energies. Even at that only my psionic attacks are negetive. All others are now quite positive. Including my former mind-trick. It dosnt act a a puppeteer method anymore, instead it seems to bolster happiness within people and allows me find ways of helping others, more like persuation or suggestion, rather than control.

However, knowing this, I am not doing ANYTHING, until I get some anwsers and advice. I refuse to fall to the darkness again. I will use any means neccesary to see that *IF* I ever use these talents, it will be for good and the protection of my fellow man.

I will be heavily meditating all this week. Maybe my anwsers will be there. I must thank my guide tho. Although is isnt pleased by this, he is being quite patient with me, since he knows that I am being honest and true with my feelings to him. He has confidence in me that I may turn lemons into lemonaid, and finally put whatever weaknesses I have aside, to help (in any way I possibly can) those in need

Is it possible that your guide wants you to learn how to rid yourself of using that neg energy altogether? Especially if it may be attracting the negs like a beacon in the night. You seem to have a lot of energy helping you out so you seem like a fountain of free energy to those negs, until of course they meet up with you. But that negativity could be your biggest weakness, so may want to avoid it at all costs.

Friend showed me a pretty fun game, just thought id share it with you guys too.
http://quiz.ravenblack.net/blood.pl?biter=Draig

I also had a chance to chat with sentenial on AIM last nite.
It was thouroughly enlightening and his presence seemed somewhat familiar to mine.

I appreicated your conversation very much. Very enlightening indeed

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SD: #1. Why did the "demons" or whatever they were, want me dead? They tried quite hard to see that I wouldnt turn into a functional adult.
M: the answer is easy: look at what you finally were able to do: you were able to defeat them at thier own game. That was why they feared you.

SD: #2. I have been told by 2 knowledgable psychics that I have a very high level angelic guide, possibly 2. Who are they? What are their names?
M: You should be able to get thier names by testing them out. It is not for me to say who they are, because that should be done by you personally so that deep down you know for a fact that they are who they claim. I suggest trying to get contact with them, though with an angel it's hard to do sometimes. I would suggest a banishing ritual in the home, followed by a prayer, then some deep meditation, and finally another prayer and see if they answer.

SD: #3 They also mentioned that I was a "very old soul".... WTF does that mean and who was I? (or atleast the type of person).
M: Means you have been through quite a few incarnations. As for the second part you are you, it's that simple. You might have a different face, and a different consciousness, but you higher aspects of your soul are still the same.

SD: #3 Do you have any tips to understand your kind better? I really try as hard as I can to understand the messages and images I see, but am having great difficulty seeing the "whole picture". More specifically how do I open direct communication with my guide(s)? Maybe talking to them directally would help
M: understanding me or another angel requires you know how to recieve and understand direct "mentality" (SDnote: I have the description of what that's kinda like somewhere in here...) When you learn how to do that the rest becomes easy.

SD: #4 I have always felt that I have a greater calling in life, but have been unable to find it. It saddens me greatly that I have not found it yet. Do you know what it is?...or Can you point me in the right direction?
M: you are probably a spiritist of a sort. I would suggest learning empathy and talking to quite a few spirits when you can. This will show you some of your abilities and what you can do with them.

SD: #5 Finally, do you have any tips to help demons rest in peace and convert over, so that I wont have to keep destroying them? It really makes me feel kinda terrible that I would resort to violence to protect myself and friends.
M: the best weapon you have to do the above is a simple word that can be very difficult to do at times: understand. demons need people who can understand them in order to talk to them and know what they need to rest.

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Micheal has confirmed what I thought I was.... I could potentially be the bridge that could forever removes negs from our plane. I will begin heavy meditation from now on.

I will explore my field more heavily so that I may understand negitive energy and positive energy better and fully devolp them. I will also look into medium techniques.

Maybe I can quell the violence between either side and bring peace.

BTW... I dont draw from demons. I use it from myself. I seem to be capable of a aura swap, both in full and isolated. Thats what scares demons most. I really dont need to attack them anymore. All I so is a solid shift to pure negitive energy in my aura and they run like hell.

Its a little frightening when a normal, innocent but curious kid with a silvery aura, and pleasent feel, suddenly shifts to coal black and looks and feels like a full fledged demon, in a short instant.

BTW Im further exploring energy types. Ill see if I can quantitify what channeling negitive energy feels like, so that others may understand.

Also... I wish to clarify that I am *NOT* an agent of the devil. I infact abhorr everything they stand for. I only use their techniques, because they are effective for self-defense and to better understand them, so that I may help distressed souls.

BTW... my guide insists this.... DO NOT FOLLOW ME INTO THE ABYSS... you may not return. I only do this for the sake of everyone and because I am unaffected by negitive energy.

Your guide is trying to protect you from yourself, using techingues like that though they may seem like nothing at first can lead to a lot of problems.  Negitive energy like you should know is based off the emotions of anger and a few others.  While positive energy is based off of things like love and such, maybe if instead you could focus more of those positive emotions when using your psi attack you could achive the goal that your guide wants.  Though you may think that you have control of the negetive energies that you use, it might be that they have control of you and you just don't realise it yet, this could be a false sense of confidence and could lead to another possession that you are not aware of.

I have been possesed myself and it is not fun and it was at a young age too, an experiment with a quigi board and I found myself attached by a very bad entity, as each day went by, I would get weaker and weaker and my grades started to slip, it wasn't until I was 16 that I found out what could be wrong and got rid of the problem.  Those years of my life were the worst, from that thing trying to get me to kill my parents, to making me feel like I was nothing but dirt it was a constant battle day in and out and I wasn't aware of it at all.

Hmmm.... maybe. Although even Michael said that I can "beat them at their own game", and should try to understand them. But in what way I dont know. It seems odd. As you mention that, things on my end seem strange.

My guide refuses to anwser one simple question: "What is *your* name". Somehow I got a real bad feeling that Im not gonna like the anwser.[xx(]

But thankyou for keeping things in perspective. This is gonna be a problem I must deal with again. This has nothing to do with negs now, but everything to do with me.

Im not sure where this neg energy is coming from, but its kinda scary to reflect and see how Ive already begun to slip up. It seems to prey off my pride. Im going to meditate again tonight b4 I go to sleep.

Too many questions....not enough anwsers. I know Im much closer now, but I still need to iron stuff out.

I really feel like Im doing a tinkle-poor job of expressing myself at the moment. Forgive me for confusing anyone. Strangly, once again as I re-awaken myself again, I can feel the neg energy gnawing at me.

Its not like an outside neg, but more myself. Im not sure what's causing it, but my guide has been consitantly warning me about taking caution.

Its very pervasive and has forced me to constantly re-check my actions and reflect upon how to take action. I really wish I knew WTF is causing this.

I plan on learning for understanding. But first I really need to understand myself b4 diving off the deepend. Im no good to the one's I hope to help in such a state.

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I know whatever happens is for the best. But I know my guide isnt at fault. This no longer feels like an attack, but more like somone taking off my shackles. I have much to learn in the coming weeks. However, eventho I know my guide is not a neg <seeing that it brought me to this point and helped me become a much kinder, sympethetic person>. But I dont understand how/why he is allowing me to do this. It isnt normal for a guide to be accepting of such things.

However as I dive into my bitter past, and the inky void, Michael <via SD> didnt seem to terribly concerned with anything that pertained to me. But he did imply that contacting my guide would prove most difficult.

Despite the trust we have in each other, he wont tell me his name.... I wonder why

But I get the impression that you are right.... maybe I shouldnt focus on perfection, but rather conversion. Maybe my strength lies in the fact that I can tolerate negitive energy long enough to be able to help spirits or manupulate neg abilities and mimic them using positive energy. That would make alot more sense, and would be more beneficial as well.

My initial thought is that they needed someone who could fight fire with fire, but it dosnt feel right. Besides, neg energy is damaging enough, I dont really want more than I already have, or alteast not at this point.

I mediated for a long period of time last night. Unfortunatly I recieved no anwsers, and thus went to bed. However, this morning, somthing feels really different.

Im not sure what was resolved in my mind last night. But I feel very different. I decided to lower my outer barrier (anti-spirit field that kept things away from me in a 50ft radius). Shortly after I was taking a shower when I noticed the great number of spirits that surrounded me. I am begining to think that my unique aura wasnt entirely for defence, but communication, since my outer aura only extends 1 or 2 mm from my skin.

Curiously, eventhough I could count more than a dozen spirits that were floating around me while I was in the shower, I wasnt terrified of them like I normally would be. It was infact rather the opposite. I was very curious as to why they were here.

Im not entirely sure what they were, but they resembled small, but very bright orbs (like a golf ball), and came in a wide variety of colors. Although they "blinked" in and out quickly. (1-2 seconds they were visible), I could still sense them there.

I made sure it want my imagination, seeing that staring at bright lights, could give the same effect. So I closed my eyes to be sure, much to my amazement, I saw no evidence to suggest that this was a phantom of the mind.

Im not entirely sure what happened last night. But all this morning I have had this calm, lulling feeling come over me. Its not a drugged up feel, its just quiet, unusually quiet at that. My mind usually is incredibally loud and unfocused, but today it very still.

Im not sure if this is a sign of things to come, but I feel like Im moving in the right direction now. Sadly my guide will not give me its name. It claims that there is too much backround noise with my ego to give something so definate in words. He also wont give it to me because "pride is your greatest weakness, and the purpose you seek to find my name is to feel proud about yourself, like some kind of trophy."

But in that sense it is right. A name is not important if the message is clear.

Another strange occurence on the home front.  A seemingly huge storm began to build, blacks clouds looked as to invade the clear sky.  Eh, that is until i went outside.  It seems sort of trivial to blame everything on demons nowadays, but i have a feeling that they are getting into some pretty bad sh*t thats causin wierd happenings.

Fuijin and Rajin were going at it, elementals that have a place on the higher planes.  They really like to fight, but this quaral was pretty bad, my friends house shook so bad at the thunder clap, the lightning must have struck really close or maybe over head in a cloud to cloud leap.  Maybe the same was for you if you live anywhere near me that is, Florida.

Any way, well the feeling of calm is definatly an improvment that is for sure, fell good about yourself, but not proud, remember what your guide is saying.  I had the same problem when I was talking to my guide, he said that I wasn't concentrating enough on the task at hand and my mind does wander alot.  

Then when I finnally got even a little bit out of him it was kind of garbled and I had to peice it together until he said it was right.  Marig, he is a good guy and I treat him like I would any of my friends and give him the ut most respect.  

Maybe that is the barrier between you and your guide?  Do you feel it is their only to help you because that is what it has to do, or because it wants to.  If you do treat it fairly then I don't know what could really be the problem, but then you should just wait it out.  Your guide will tell you things as you need them though, but a name should be a first thing.  It helps to form understanding and is a great way to call on them if need be, but I am sure you have another way to do that.  I am sure that your guide will give you its name eventually.

I agree with what you say... its just a little frusterating at times. Once in the astral they tend to forget how quickly time passes down here.

On that note....very curious Van-Stolin. I know of the exact storm system you speak of. You wouldnt happen to live near by Jacksonville, Florida, would you? (cuz I do)

Pensacola, yeah so we are pretty close, nice to know.

A friend of mine claims that when he astral projected he got to meet Fujin and Rajin, said they were nice when they weren't arguing over something.

Sentinial, i think this is a fascinating post. You answered one of mine yesterday about the nature of negs, but i've since read this thread and i see how your perspective is much different. You mentioned that you are an Old Soul. That's very likely. I would guess that you are a spiritually advanced human going through a higher level of consciousness and thought. I'm not sure how OFTEN this happens, but i believe it to be a normal process. i don't know how old you are, but it seems that your experiences are gearing you for a lifetime of service.

Just as there have been prophets and psychics and explorers through the ages, you too are gifted with sharing God's plan with others. Your experiences with demonic beings will be invaluable to yourself and others especially, and i look forward to hearing more of your stories. I do want to add though, and i have mentioned this before, i think Negs are a normal part of existense. We might not like what they do, but then again we don't understand the whole scheme of things.

The methods you describe where you change your aura and chakras are especially intersting.  You also mentioned that when you were younger, when you first had problems, you experimented with negative energy to protect yourself, or at least learn more. How did you do that exactly? I'm sure others have followed similar paths and unwittingly attracted demons.

I am honored to be regurded in such light. I only hope my anwsers inspire faith (in whatever), in those who were once lost souls like I.

I am in the process of quantitifying a vast number of things for people to understand. I will try to take a purist stance on what I say, leave any religious connenations out, and leave it open for interpretation.

First, I think that it is neccessary for people to quantify what is considered the dark and light arts. As I see it, this is the class system if you will.

Light Arts:
*Divination*
- Pre-cognition
- Post-cognition
- 2nd sight

*Empathy*
- Telepathy
- Mediation


Dark Arts:

Energy manupulation
- Psychokinesis (Potential *aka* Telekenesis / Kinetic Energy *aka* Pyrokenesis)
- Banish / Summon
- Polymorph (manupulation of Chakra / aura structure)
- Chakra / Aura manupulation (aka PSIonic attacks)
- Programs (for the intent of evil)
- Mind control

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The oddest thing on that list is Polymorph. I know Ill get alot of questions about that. But you must ask yourself..... have you *EVER* seen a demon in its true form?....Cuz I havent. Look at books, where does a demon ever take on its true form on its own will?

This may explain why my aura is distorted / changed. This happened under the influence / guidence of a demon. My friend's modifyied aura, was also done under a demon's guidence... curious eh?

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My path down the dark side (lmao... sorry), began on the night b4 Valentines day in the second grade (try not to laugh). Its the typical puppy-love bit, but she wouldnt give me a second glance. My reaction: "Hmmmm.... there must be a way to get her attention / love... Oh...whats this...mind control?....eeeeeexxcelent."

From there it became..."Hmmm I want my parents to buy this...but they wont....OOOOOH....ILL FIX THEM[}:)]". Thats about when the demons came. Then it became. "OMG...I ... I....gotta KILL them....YES...that .... that will make them go away".

Finally just before my possession it was: "That *******... how could anyone do such a horrible thing to ME...*ME OF ALL PEOPLE*... I will make an example of his betrayel of *MY* trust in him. He was such a close friend....Ill make him pay...*Ill* make sure he never wakes up again.....*SWEET DREAMS*!!!" (as I attempted to pull this off, my possession took place. Needless to say my intentions never worked)

In other words... you never see how far you have fallen, just until you see the edge of the cliff. Its not an instant process. It takes many days / years. If it were abrupt no demon would win, because they would realize what was happening to them. Now stretch it over 4 years and you have a different story

lol Stolin its odd that you saw the storm too.  Im in DE.  Yea it was pretty wierd cuz the clouds seemed more like bodyless spirits, the darker ones were seemingly absorbing the white ones.  It looked pretty cool, aside from the fact that there could have been lightning and i was in the middle of an open field [xx(].

Hah! Polymorph indeed...that's the DnD-speak my friend. Only now it's Baneful Polymorph if you use it on someone else [^] But i see what you're saying. The demons take different forms, but i think this could be any number of reasons.  How about illusion? Maybe they mind read you and pick an image that is especially fearsome to the victim. There are tons of spells in DnD, a simple game, that recreates such phenomena. Phantasmal Killer, for example, summons a shadow-creature from the victims worst nightmare. It's not real, but if the victim fails a Will Save he dies from terror. Of course these are only game mechanics, but anything mankind has ever thought of in the physical has its roots in the etheric. Ideas are born there first and then shadowed here, with most people thinking they were geniuses of great magnitude to think it up!

So, from what i understand you used simple...methods of mind control that were normal and natural to you. You tried to influence your will over someone else, and from an early age you attracted the attention of otherworld beings.  Makes sense. I've always heard that all great masters and spiritual leaders have had hard times with demons. They want to counter man's knowledge, hide it, fill them with fear and then feed on the fear.

I imagine sometimes what would happen if EVERYONE in the world was taught at birth and youth what their True Self was, their evolutionary and spiritual path, and their purpose on earth. Our modern society puts emphasis on only worldy goods and possessions, which are quite fun (i love my dear dear Xbox) but these are only distractions in the long run.

Concerning possession, i read a book last year called Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin. It is old, from the 70's i think, but the first story detailed a true possession in excruciating detail. Probably one of the scariest things i've read, but also very enlightening. The possession took course over many years of a young woman's life, mostly through her lack of things spiritual and belief that her own importance was above anyone elses. It is not told in her own words, but rather through interviews after the exorcism. The book as a whole was somewhat convoluted and slow, but hey, the author was a priest not a writer.

You are right, taking a form that a person fears the most. I rememeber that I would always have a dream and a creature would appear and at that point in time it was the thing I feared most, it switched from the imps of Doom to the lightning beasts in Quake and eventually it got to Buu from Dragon Ball Z, until I was able to get rid of the neg that plequed me and then it all stopped, glad too becuase I lost a lot of sleep over that dream.

Yea I appologise bout that lol. But my guide does this too me all the time. He claims that using words and such concepts make it simplistic and easy for everyone to understand (especially for myself).

But I find it curious that only demons possess shapeshifting abilites... very odd

Actually we can shape shift during a real-time projection, but is of course easier to hold it in the astral dimension proper. [:D]

You can become whatever you think and feel you are.  

Nay

By your choices and expectations you create your experiences. On the physical the appearance of the result takes more time thatn on the astral.
This is why I'm so sceptic about negs as independent entities. Everyone creates their percption of what is and thus everyone has a different albeit somewhat similar reality. I have never met a real 'neg' and some of you meet them all the time.
There is no judgement in that statement. Itäs just the way it is. Make most of it as best you see.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

Trust me on this one. Both negs and angels are in fact seperate entities. Until you come into long contact with them, you unfortunatly cannot understand.

I have recieved anwsers that I cannot come up with, done things Id never do. I seriously doubt, or I hope, that I wasnt projecting the things I witnessed

Please bear in mind that what I stated means that your reality is different from mine. I have chosen not to have things out to get me and so far none have appeared. That has also resulted in no independent good guys appearing either.
That also means that, like you said, I don't know what you have experience and how it felt to you. I have never claimed that your or anyone else's experiences don't exist. Only that those experiences are based in a perception of reality that that person creates.

We are on the same side here, I just see that side in a different way.

I think Nay's previous post is worth reading a few times and considering what the implication is.

2cents & L&L
Jouni

QUOTE: Actually we can shape shift during a real-time projection, but is of course easier to hold it in the astral dimension proper.
You can become whatever you think and feel you are.

Nay


This makes me think about why we exist in the physical. In the ethereal, our thoughts are manifested as reality instantly. In the physical, it takes much longer for our thought creations to be noticed, YEARS sometimes, but it still happens. Why? I suppose the process needs slowing down, to ensure everything doesn't happen at once.

Yet your theory about you make your own reality is flawed.  If this were true then I would never had a neg attachment at all becuase I didn't know what it was.  I was expecting a spirit when I was messing with the quigi board, but at the time I didn't think at all about them being evil and all through out the time that this had happened I didn't link it to the quigi board until someone on this message board said not to use them.  I haven't had any others attack me, but I know of their existance, but don't really think about getting attacked though it is a possibility when  there seems to be a bunch of negetive energy in the neighborhood.

Van Stolin, i wonder if we have more neg attachments than we realize. I think some are so subtle that they might come and feed and go only at opportune times, such as sickness or weakness. Or alternatively, our sickness and weakness could be physical manesfestations of negs attached in the etheric.

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Yet your theory about you make your own reality is flawed. If this were true then I would never had a neg attachment at all becuase I didn't know what it was.

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I wonder if we ever know with complete certainty the reasonss we, as our higher selves, had for a given lifetime and what we chose to experience as a result?

2cents & L&L
jouni

well one can make their own reality in the sense that they can force everything to look the way they are comfortable with.  but heres quite an odd proposition, i thought it up a few years back.  what if everyone sees and hears comepletely different things, and we just adapt everyone else to our own perception so we never really notice.  what may look green to you could be anothers idea of red.  theres no real way to know bc if we all have adaptations to different things, then maybe even feeling is changed.  it came to me in a daydream when i was about 13.  and as far as metaphysicality and physicality go, i believe they are like 2 rooms separated by doors; they can be opened, but beings usually return to their own room. also, only people with enough strength can open said doors, yet some seek to hold the door for unwelcomed beings.  just a few randomly assembled observations, so dont think too hard about them lol.[|)]

Im not really sure. I wish there was some way to ease their pain. On that note, Im going to re-establish communication with a very powerful telepath I know.

She wanted an astrology on me, and some other things. Im going to humor her. Maybe I can get some more insight on my path.

Sentinal, in the Channelling an Arch-angel thread, I read that you had found out the name of your guide and his name was Metatron, that would be incredible, but I don't know.  You have crossed reference with freinds of yours right, you wouldn't want to accidentaily have a neg be using you.   Though if it really is Metatron, I think he would just be guiding you and that he is not acctually your guide, your higher self is probably still there, but maybe he called in some help.  Metatron, one of the most powerful angels and closest to God, yeah I would say you are lucky.

Well it was cross referenced pretty heavily. I still dont have a clue who Metatron is to be honest. I never looked that stuff up.

As I said b4, it was garbled and sounded like Kabeck, which I assume is Kasbak with a silent s.

Im going to admit this to gain some humility, and explain, but my eqo was quite strong. I got a hellova lot of responses. The only one that sounded legit was Kabeck.(secret name of metatron apparentally)

It would explain why that telepath was somewhat cautious of approaching me. And explained that very powerful forces guide my hand.

It would also explain my angelic enounter. Apparentally Metatron appears in a pillar of flames. So I though, well it cant be him then, seeing that I saw him face to face. But then I remembered that it didnt say how wide the pillar was. Because when I saw my guide I met him in an orangy haze. It wasnt burning hot, but it was warm.

Also he himself was very bright, and my eyes had to adjust to see him. So Im still skeptical until I speak with this telepath, but ironically I wish this were so. It would be an honor to have such a guide.

comepletely off topic, but i just won free tickets to a 3 days grace concert on the radio LOL.

Very nice. Im sure that will be a good concert. Their CD is quite good. Not hard, but still good.

Well that is pretty cool, I hope for the best.  Metatron, wow.

I understand what he meant about the power of names now. As strange as it may sound, but I am neither thrilled or disapointed. If this is true, then so be it. I cannot really change my situation or who I am at this point. I can only hope for the best. I never took the time to look at Christian mythology. I take it that Metatron is important? I briefly read some things about em, but it didnt seem all too special.

Maybe my mother's friend who is a telepath can help. She has a great deal of anwsers. Maybe I can get some more info from her.

Metatron is supposed to be one of the most powerful angels in the heirarchy. I always thought the name sounded like the evil Transformer though boss, Megatron. I'm not sure if it is Christian mythology or not, but it's probably even older than that, old Judeasism.

Once again, I gotta stress that I cannot comfirm this yet. Unfortunatly I have no way of doing so quite yet. This telepath I speak of, mentionded off hand about my *real* guide, not the program I created to help me. So it could be legit

Its really strange tho. *IF* this is true, Im somewhat suprised as to what I did to deserve this.

Also as odd as this sounds, Im not entirely happy. Sure, if its true I would be honored, but *it* feels more like a family member. It would be strange to revear and worship it in that sense.

Also more oddly, I was hoping it was someone else. Someone cool like Gabriel or Raziel. I almost turned up a frown when I searched Kasbak, only to find Metetron.....although Im glad it wasnt a fallen angel, like I feared it would be.

However it may explain my affinity to both the dark arts and psionics in general. Ive talked to several pplz about my experiences. I never realized how much of a pampered ******* I was. I had no idea that people struggled with the things I took for granted. In that sense I feel pretty s***ty about it. Like I should have done more to express my greatfulness.

Personally I find that the name Metatron, does indeed sound like a bad cartoon. *If* I can channel him like SD, Ill ask him why the stupid name lol!

Time will tell at this point..... Im gonna call that woman today.

Fujiun and Rajiun sounds so familiar.

When i stumbled into dark arts I was being very careful. Taking all kinds of precautions. Now anytime I use one I pay a price. Don't stumble into them. Demons are a hell of a lot worse when you are already filled with thier power.

I never got to mind control but it always seems my energy works a bit different then others. Such as my energy is strongest when in my hands and loses strength significantly when outside of my body. My negative enrgy always turned into manipulation and fear. Also if I wanted to I could make it extremley destructive.

Of course thats the good part. Its not all rainbows though in my eyes the price is much larger than the reward.

Clow, Fujiun, Rajiun and Suijin are elemental beings, they aren't like demons think of them more like Gods and Goddesses, they really aren't but they were worshiped as such, they have some awsome power though so you wouldn't want to mess with them.

I thought of the elemts when I heard thier names thanks Van

Clow, thanks for mentioning your experience with the dark arts. I don't think that it can be stressed enough to people reading these boards that these are NOT shortcuts to power. Incredible power is involved, the greatest in all the universe actually, but it is open to abuse and demons are waiting in the wings to nudge the unsuspecting the wrong direction. It's their job and they do it well. The price evil spirits demand is always more than they give.

Van-Stolin, can you tell me more about "Fujiun, Rajiun and Suijin are elemental beings..." Are they spiritual embodiments of Earth/Air/Water/Fire, and have they been worshipped by various pseudonyms over the aeons? I'm thinking they are very primal and neutral in behavior, not evil, but distinctly non-human with agendas that make sense only to them. I'm thinking that Wiccans and related religions summon them frequently, often to co-habitate with humans. The thought of that is at the same time intriguing and terrifying, because i don't really understand what they are. Spectral Dragon gave me a little info via Michael, the elementals are NOT archangels, but something else entirely.

Ive got my own theories, but the dark arts are *extremely* dangerous. Its psionically contagous, like crack or heroine. The more you use it, the more you want to use it. It eats and gnaws away at you.

Those with weak minds fall wholly to the darkness. I did not fall completely, but came damn close. Its rather scary. If they didnt try to possess me, I would still be dabbeling in the dark arts to this day.

As much as I learned, I dare not use them in their pure forms. I use the ones I could salvage and mutate their effects and draws into positive energy and use that instead.

Channeling negative energy is like spinning down a drain. You dont see how far you have fallen until ur down the drain.

I repeat and stress, do *not* even try this stuff. Its quite nasty. It may give the impression of pure power, but its all splashy, and no effect. In other words, its all talk and no action. But for me and most people its enoguth to fool them into trying it.

And that's the lure Sentential, it always has been. Mankind wants shortcuts to divine power to serve THEM, not the other way around. These gifts and revelations i believe are ultimately for us to serve and honor each other, both physically and spiritually, and abuse of that is the quick trip down the drain to madness.

Correct they have been worshiped by many different religions.  Fuijin is the element of wind, Suijin is water and Raijin is Lighting, I don't rememeber what the spirit of the Earth is or fire.

Has anyone ever used Astral Sight to look at Earth's Core?? With all of the magmal and liquid magnetism i bet there is some interesting stuff going on down there...metaphysically too...

Interesting.... however I still have quite a bit of unresolved problems at hand.

I spoke at lengths with Spectral Dragon. The information he gave me is invaluable. I cannot thank him enough. Unfortunatly it only created more unresolved problems.

Alot of the situations Ive been in, according to him, are common if you do the things I did. So in that sense Im fine. However things began to get really strange once I talked about my second sight.

When I see, there is a staticy mesh that surrounds everything, including myself and spirits. Where they displace the static is how I see them. Like a topography map.

Which is what worried him slightly. He initially assumed it was because my third eye wasnt fully open. But I told him that I see with perfect clarity, but its only in 2D. Thats when things went awry.

For someone to see in 2D, something has to block or filter it somehow. The question becomes, who or why would this happen? I got the impression a long time ago, that my guide sealed alot of things from me. Which explained why I totally lost my abilities (except for my second sight) for a number of years after I was possessed. These abilites have only now just begun to resurface.

However more alarming was my decription of my guide, that I saw in a vision after I was possessed. Apparentally he was quite alarmed when I mentioned that my guide had solid black eyes. However they werent "icy" like he assumed they would be, they actually felt quite warm, and understanding. Almost like looking at a starry night, or eternity in a glass ball.

Im not entirly sure what to make of it. It sounded as though that my guide could somehow be bad or evil. But I sensed no mallice within it when I saw it. Infact, it was quite the opposite. Im not sure how this will eventually play out. But I know this is they key to figuring out WTF has been happening to me.

There is probably a reason why so many things were sealed from me, and by god I want to know why!

Its damned annoying because I cannot do alot of things, cuz Im almost literly anchored down. APing and OBE are out of the question. Every time I try to get the harmonics right, they get to the point of OBE and completely fall apart, as though its booby trapped to do so.

Because of this Ive been limited to divination, however I want to explore further, *if* I can get past these seals. But Im not gonna try and break them, unless SD assures me that Im not opening Pandora's box

Sounds like something that my guide said that he did, I still can't Project and I had asked him and he said that he was taking procoutions, becuase I would be important, he wouldn't say anything more then that becuase he thought it would inflate my ego, weither this importance is just starting something or putting it to an end is a different matter or even what it is I can only guess.  So for right now he has me 'grounded', as a procaution.

In my case they had every reason to do so. I was involved with some nasty folk. At the rate I was goin, I was on a very sinister path. Lord only knows how far I might have gone

Sentential, did you ever learn the name of your possessor? I don't know if it matters or not, but i'm very intersted in knowing more about the darkside, not that i have interest in going through the hell you've been through (i've had my own, trust me!) but forewarned is forearmed. The more i understand about this universe the better i feel about everything.

As I said before, the dark arts revolve around deception. I could never go head to head with another person, unless its a spirit.

Instead you convince the target to do things. Like, for psionic vampirism, you match the target's aura pattern. Thus confusing their chakra that you are a depeeted portion of their body. It reaches out to you and gives you energy. Not the other way around.

There is no direct conflict. Instead you confuse them into doing what you want.

Now I must stress, *DO NOT ATTEMPT THESE THINGS*, or you will face all of god's wrath. Needless to say its a horribly karma backlash.

I learned to control such things by techniques I learned a long time ago. They revolve around isolation and mimicing. I can mimic energy types that I come into contact with.

During a AIM with SD, he gave me some *very* positive energy. I thank him for that, because now I can recall it at will. Much like the negetive energy.

When I channel neg energy I setup safe zones. All my chakra points stay pure positive, while I allow the rest to degrade. As long as I keep "samples" of each type I use, I can call them as I see fit.

However I keep my neg energy in check. There is only *1* point in my aura that I keep pure neg energy.....and that's my left hand. I *DO NOT* allow it to spread *any* further than that.

Im not stupid enough to fall for the same trick twice.

Well if you left hand gets worse, you could cut it off and replace it with a chainsaw.

[:D]Army of Evil, wasn't it.  That movie was pretty cool.

No, its not that. Im starting to get to the truth of the matter. But I want Spectral Dragon to confirm it for me.

Needless to say, its alot more then I could have ever imagined.

Well actually that was from the Evil Dead/ Army of Darkness movies starring Bruce Campbell

Sentential, you seem to be a important being in the war for energy, but do you really know what side your working for?

I have been 'awake' for a while now, and I see right through the many lies of everyday life, My Job here, as far as i figured it out, seems to be important because my life was spared from an accedent(which i have absolutely no memory of) that should have killed me, aka t-bone on the drivers side. I came out with only minor soars and a slight concussion. Not to mention that I walk the path and encounter sychronicity very often.

I was just wondering if you know what you are suppose to be doing here in this world. Can you feel/hear it? I can always feel the forces at work in my life, and I know always where the path is.

Right now Im still battleing out with the negs in my life. They still try to decieve me. Whatever I have, its damn important. My friend and SD are trying to figure it out.

However my freiend Devin did come up with something. I have the Chimera archetype. Its extremely rare, and quite lethal. Basically my archetype revolves around destroying others, or helping them, by using others abilites against them. Im not sure what to make of it at the moment, seeing that unlike dragons, I cannot find another.

And, no, Im not sure what side Im on at this point. Howver I can feel their grip looseing on me.

Something was sealed within me. Something terrible. SD's trying to analyze my aura to figure out what it might be. As of now, he's stumped.

He asked Micheal several times about me, and about what has happened to me. Apparentally "for the first time, I hear nothing"

Michele was speakless about you, that is something.  If he was silent then it has to be something big, not to worry you or anything.  I am sure SD will find out whatever it was that was in you, but are you saying that you might have had this in you for your entire life?  If so it kind of sounds like an anime where the main character has a Fox Demon spirit inprisoned in his body.

...grrrr, just what I needed.

Im have no idea WTF is up at this point. It may have explained why people keep avoiding the question. Ive asked SD and others about "that", and other things related to it, and I keep getting ignored. Its not their fault tho, Im just somewhat frustrating.

But something is just not right about me. Even SD noted that. I have the ability (in a matter of saying), to mimic other's auric qualities and energies.

For everone, this is quite normal.....but apparentally not on "my level" according to SD. This is why Devin suggested I may be Chimeric in nature.

However Im more frightened by what SD said about my Chakra points (from Astral projection..) Apparentally my "power chakra" point (the one above the belly button, has been completely shattered. Every time he searched for it it came up as almost like glitter dispersed throughout my aura. He said that my aura in general was "off" and couldnt quite place what was wrong with it. I asked him if it were unstable and he said no, its just off.

I asked if it were broken during my excorism, and he said basically "If it were that easy, more people would be dead"......I dont like that anwser at all[xx(]

Adding different qualities to your aura, your power chakra is shattered.  That is just weird, I have never heard of an energy center getting damaged to that extream, maybe that is why your guide is stoping you from projecting, it could be very bad for your eitheric body.  He says your aura is 'off', maybe it is becuase of the neg energy and it just feels different, but it could be something else entirely.  

Oh a question, how do you find out your archetype?  You said that most seem to be dragon somewhere I think.

Its complicated. The thing I saw was *not* my guide. It was a high level neg. SD said it looked "off", especially the eyes, and after pieceing everything together, they used me still to this day....until now.

Its been damn difficult. They must really whant what I have, whatever that may be.

My friend Devin speculates that *I* am not what they are after, but the thing I cary, or something I have. He thinks I was "collertral damage", and that they used me to get at what they wanted.

However after the first time, they could not show themselves in the same light, to they guised themself as my "guide" to instead chain me until they figure out WTF they could do.

Now their plan is falling apart as they had to allow me to banish the high level guide of a friend of mine. But now that Ive met both SD and my friend Devin they are becoming despreate.

The truth is becoming much clearer now. I just hope its finally for real.

As for the archetype it depends, Im not entirely sure how to judge it. But I know there is a guide to it somewhere. Mainly it depends upon you and how your most base emotions and aura functions.

Well at least you are getting somewhere with it, I really do hope for the best for you.  Though I might know what it is they want from you, I just want to make sure of it, do some research into the matter, there isn't many things that they would want from you.  It might just be that one of them needs a vessal that will allow them to use there full power on this plane, but I don't know that for sure.  Maybe SD can fiqure this all out, becuase it is starting to sound very serious, I will also keep a look out on the internet for something that could be related to this as I can't project as of yet, but the more I try the closer I get, so if I ever get out I will definetly help you with this.

I have 2 theories. However I cannot back any of them up, nor do even I know their authenticity. They seem very far fetched, so I wont say them until I hear from SD. I want to hear what he has to say about by chakra points. Apparentally they all dont seem to mesh normally, in the sense that I should be tearing myself apart.

Not to mention that my chakra points are really strange to say the least. Lacking a normal "power chakra" point has caused the whole system to re-route itself, as a matter of speak. But oddly its rock solid.

i saw something....and i still don't have a clue what the hell it was or anything. i was just sitting in my friends basement and seeing what he was typing in a chatroom and i saw a lil black ball travel across his face out the corner of my eyes with a yellow outline and i turn my head to see what in the HELL it was and it was still in the same path going across his face, then it vanished into a yellow flash and was gone, as soon as it was gone i got a split second image in my mind of a man...had to have been at least 7 feet tall wearing nothing but black, huge baggy overcoat, black shoes, black gloves with his hand in the two front pockets and was wearing a black hat with a very stif brim on it like a drill sergents hat but black. and hi face...his face had no facial features on it...no eyes no noes no ears and no mouth, all you could make out is where these things went, like if someone puts on a very tight GHOST WHITE face mask, and he was standing in the corner of my room looking down on me in my bed, can someone tell me what in the hell i saw and why did i see it but not jesse?

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However Im more frightened by what SD said about my Chakra points (from Astral projection..) Apparentally my "power chakra" point (the one above the belly button, has been completely shattered. Every time he searched for it it came up as almost like glitter dispersed throughout my aura. He said that my aura in general was "off" and couldnt quite place what was wrong with it. I asked him if it were unstable and he said no, its just off.

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Sentinal, dont be worried by what SD said to you in the above. To be frank, I'd bet a pound to your penny its rubbish. And if it isn't, then there is not much you can do except wrap up your worldly affairs - but then, I would not advise doing that.....even the aura of someone who is about to die it weak, but not "off" completely. And your chakra is not "shattered" - again, if it were you would probably be experiencing horrible pains there and, possibly, you would already be dead. I dont even think this postulated situation is possible. Same if your aura was "off" - you'd be needing a fresh suit, but little else, and all the advice in the world wouldn't make squat difference.
On the old forums (before this one appeared the regulars had a very simple board....back in the day [;)]....) someone came on there talking about a certain magical practise they had been undertaking which involved sex and manipulating the base chakra. But something had gone wrong, and he was getting sudden, crippling, agonising pains through his base chakra and etc. Guy called Romero de Cunha was around at the time (friend of RB's, totally incredible guy from what I have heard) and was very concerned. Basically he said if your base chakra gets that badly out of whack, you can die. This guy was going through bouts of agony on his most important chakra (everyone's most important chakra, at that) but he was still here. Romero offered his help and I cant remember what happened after that, dont think I heard much else about it.
I haven't read all this thread, I'll do that tomorrow (was actually about to go to bed but then my intuition forced me back onto the boards and into this section and so now....here I am!), but considering you do not appear to be in any pain, are still emotionally capable, and capable of writing without strings attached and a burly puppetteer, I'd say you are OK!!

"He initially assumed it was because my third eye wasnt fully open."

Um.....say again?
I was chatting to a bloke I met on these forums a while back, and he was all like "so, have you opened your third eye yet?!".....deary deary me. Too much BS floating around out there you know? Its not like you go through some sort of initiation and your third eye is from then on "open". Basically, it just doesn't work like that, its much more like a mustle.

I would suggest you do some reading of RB's NEW energy ways, and look into the eastern chakra systems if you are still interested. Go back to the true sources of knowledge, and if you still want real help dealing with the situation, as a rule, dont deal with people under the age of 30 or there abouts - they'll be far too inexperienced and wont know enough about what they're rambling on about. Just like me!....
But I know a bit, and for now, thats enough

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Yeah, odd that isn't it!?!!!!! [;)] ....

Dinne'fash yourself! Ie dont worry. But, if you want to give yourself some piece of mind on the chakra front, then I suggest you take a complete break from any serious energy work, ground yourself in real life, only do light meditations and dont go using any psychic skills you have available. Let em rest.

laterz.....

Rob

ps Dago - well, entities can take many forms, who knows? Unless it hurts you, or you start having loads of nightmares, or any other sign, I would give the same advice to you as I just gave to Sentinel - dont worry about it! (hey I'm good at giving out free advice aren't I??! HA!) Look fondly on the experience as one of life little "ooOOOooohhh that was interesting"'s! And you probably saw him because of differences in natural and developed psychic skills, an enquiring mind, lack of psychic dampeners, or just because you were on a "high" day and she wasn't. C'est la vie eh?

Nah Im fine. I just went thru a rough period back then. However the more I dig the questions come up. Im not really solving much, only exploring more than I thought existed.

And yes, when I said my 3rd eye is fully open I wasnt kidding. I see aura clearly and withought thought or meditation. My vision is cloaked in static. Where the static displaces is where spirits often are.

Other than sight I dont have anything else that drastic.

SD and I disagree on a number of topics, even tho he is a close friend. Either way its all about interpretations. What he means to say may be differnet than what I think....ahh the power of words

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Oh really? Thats interesting - SD seems to have a lot of friends here!  So who else do you know?! (from before you got here, I mean). I've tried to get friends, some of them spiritually minded, onto this site but I never see them posting, tis a real shame.
laterz..

Rob

Hi all I am new to this message board.  This topic is realy intresting [:)], trying to reading it all its a lot hard work lol.
Well just wondering if you could help me out.  I tried to by using a past life spell see the real me, my soul you might say and well I saw my self as an Egyptian a woman, the make up was high class I guess but I could really see my face that good except my eyes it was weird they were cat eyes well the lens at least. If you don't understand then if a human normal eye is like this <O> then my eyes was more like that<()>.  So any ides on who I was/am??? Just if you think of something let me know [:D]

Maybe I was a cat hmm... [:O] anyeyas tell me what you think if you wana bother answering.

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Thnx for the info. Whatever that thing was, it Im not entirely sure it was looking for energy, but who knows. The impression that my guide gives me is that he wanted to stop me. To prevent me from becoming an adult and killing myself or instutionizaling me. I still dont know why I had importance in their eyes.

Their plan backfired tho. They still try to seek me out, but they are too damn scared at this point. I have taken on high level demon out already, banished another, and killed several lesser ones. Ive seen a few wandering spirits, but they run like hell when I charge up another PSI blast

As for the eyes they looked wholly evil. Not mine. I usually have a slight twinkle in my eyes <you know>. Those eyes were cold and as black as steel. Like there was no life behind them.

As for my impronto excorcism I basically grabbed myself from OBE and pulled and tugged as best I could. Once out in the hall way I almsot body slammed myself / PSI blasted to force it out like a sledgehammer effect almost.

Needless to say it was a bit overkill and quite painful, but when you are in total panic you tend to resort to such measures.

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I know im not being very clear, and I appologies. Im still trying to learn the lingo. What I consider a PSI blast is something I came up with as a psionic attack.

When I was a child I tried to hide from the demons under my bed sheets. To further camoflage and protect myself, I heavily compressed my aura into a thick and ridged shell. Instead of the normal 1foot , 1/2 foot distance from the skin. My aura lies about 1-2 millimeters from my body. Ive also compressed my chakra points as well.

Unfortunatly that tactic didnt work well, infact it made things worse cuz now I show up alot more, almost like a becon since the light is so dense now.

However, this sheild is very protective. I have yet to see a neg sucessfully attack me, or get a grip on me. In otherwords its as slippery as an eel and hard as a rock.

This gets to the PSI blast. I first learned that move when I killed my former possessor. As I held my hand up to it a large shockwave from my aura condensed in the palm of my hand and shot foreward. Snce my aura is so compressed it went off like a shotgun blast and tore the demon to bits.

Anyway... Im still learning. I really dont know if such a thing exists. If it does plz tell me what's its called
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miko of the Warring States era of Japan would have

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^^ What is that? Ive never heard of it.

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Purifiying the energy that a demon feeds off of and killing it, very interesting

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^^ Its not quite that. Its more like sealing it b4 you crush it out of existence. Kinda like what you would do with a paper towel to kill a bee or scorpion / wasp

EDIT: My guide has clarified it for me. This is how he puts it: "The only way to fight fire with fire is to remove the source".

In other words its like smothering a fire. Its really hard to kill a large fire with water alone. Now throw a inflammible blanket over it and strip it of oxygen, and it quickly burns itself out.

ie: Seal the demon's ability to draw life and it will quickly burn itself out via suffocation, or atleast weaken it to the point where it is an easy kill.

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A lot of what you wer saying about banishing sounds fermillyar to me...  Not saying I banish demons well maybe one but he was chocking me so he had it coming...  But maybe I have some little part of what you have cause wen somthing comes op to me I make a little energy ball and tell them to tinkle off and they go away.  But basicly all of my other abilitys have been blocked by somthing or someone I don't know, acept for this one. Spirits just wount come near me.  You can't use a spiret bord wen I'm in the room.  It's a fun game thoug I step out of the room then step back in it works and then dosn't it works and then dosn't.  Eather spirits are afraid of me or I just have realy poverfull guids.

Hope it's the later cause then they wount come after me :p

Im not sure what to think of that. I seem to have the opposite problem. I cant seem to shake them off. Its really getting annoying. Especally since all my clocks are going weird. My watch dosnt read right, neither do any of the fri&*in clocks in our house. All er anywhere between 5-10 mins off. And I just reset them not even a week ago.

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Im not sure what to think of that. I seem to have the opposite problem. I cant seem to shake them off. Its really getting annoying. Especally since all my clocks are going weird. My watch dosnt read right, neither do any of the fri&*in clocks in our house. All er anywhere between 5-10 mins off. And I just reset them not even a week ago.

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Hi Philip,

From what reading your post and a few of your earlier ones – it seems in my mind you are or have been wide open psychically.

I am not a paranormal researcher, but I used to have a similar issue with electrical equipment and clocks etc, and like you it used to concern me as I could not fathom what was going on. I feel this is attributed to ones own power and from personal experience things like this seemed to occur when I was under stress for whatever reason. For instance I observed that powerful emotional outbursts seemed to precipitate this type of phenomena rather than when I was in a calm peaceful state. In other words the more frustrated you get the one energy will flare. Have a look at the illustrations in B A Brennan's 'Hands of Light' or 'Light Emerging' where the illustrations depict how the medical intuitive is able to perceive auric spikes and daggers projecting into the environment and towards other peoples e.g.. During a heated discussion or argument!

In a sense this is like a form of uncontrolled intent as one seems focused on the stress or object of concern itself. So might be not dissimilar to how say for example magical or martial arts training aims to enable the operator to project their intent to perform apparently physical acts using the mind. Or how Table Tipping, TK and spoon bending work as action follows the mind, but then you know that anyway!

Rather than advise you to do this or that practice – it is worth saying that the body and ones energy will tend to balance anyhow over time. I am sure you already have a wealth of literature to enable you to find your own level yourself. Although usually the best thing to do is simply have a break and simply go out and enjoy life for a bit.

Take care,


Stephen [:)]

Thnx I appreciate it. Its just been really strange for me as of late. Im having a strong telepath have a good look at me. Apparentally my astrology is very odd.

Just about everyone I know say I have an odd feeling. Im not sure what to make of it. But all I can do is look. Hopefully Ill like what I see[B)]

As for the lititure, thats the scary part. I have never read a book on psionics. All I know is all impromptu tactics. Im not really sure where to begin. Cube insists I buy the "Hands of Light"

Anyone got any stories to tell? For me, my house is haunted. A poltergiest(sp?) and a bunch of demons. They always show themselves when my parents aren't around or are asleep. Like right now. I always hear footsteps and see shadows wandering. My friend and I watched a locked door open then shut and lock again. The other spirits in my house are elementals.
    If you've got a demon sighting, Chupacabra, Mothman, or other post your story. (By the way, what's a mothman?[xx(])