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stiev

Thanks for your ideas and advice so far. I guess psychic powers mean different things to different people. Perhaps I should be a little more explicit about what I mean by psychic powers, but I'm often unsure myself. You probably need to have to have psychic powers to know what they're about.

Than again, from what I've heard, many people are born with advanced psychic powers and have no idea of what they're about - like that Steven King book and movie, the Shining (or like a lot of Steven King books and movies).

Some people understand psychic powers to be flashes of intuition, or premonitions. Others see psychic powers as the ability to project your will onto something or someone. From what I've been told, everyone has psychic powers. We just need to learn how to untap them.

There's also the psychic powers that come through techniques to reach enlightenment, raising kundalini shakti, etc, and from what I understand, these aren't exactly saught after, just byproducts of increasing your mental and spiritual awareness through techniques such as yoga, meditation, alchemy, etc. Andonitxo has given a good example of this sort of psychic power/understanding.

The psychic powers I have in mind are the ones I've seen people use in Spiritualist Churches. You give them a flower and they hold it for a while and pick up on the vibrations. Sometimes they have a guide that helps them from the astral plane, and sometimes they are able to see people in the astral plane giving them certain information. Different psychics, from what I've heard and read, have a range of different techniques and powers that they use.

I don't know what sort of psychic powers I mean when I ask how you can develop them, and perhaps I am being too generic. I was watching a TV show on those psychics who help detectives, and I was amazed at how they can go to a crime scene, pick up on the "vibrations," and help to solve the crime.

I understand that you can fine-tune your awareness and cultivate these sort of "powers" through meditation and self awareness, but are there courses or mental exercises you can do that help you to develop these "powers" in themselves?

Once again, I know that I'm not being very specific in what I mean by psychic powers, but maybe someone has done some sort of course on psychic development/claivoyancy. Perhaps someone knows exactly what I mean (maybe they're psychic), and knows how you can access this sort of information.


andonitxo

Dear,

You want to become an X-men!!!!  :-D

Psychic powers are but the knowledge of the real nature of the universe, a sort of an awakening. The goal of those techniques we've been talking about is just that, to observe what's around you to just perceive that it isn't so real as you thought. Then, your mind starts to get attuned to other wave lengths.

But if you want to read other people's minds, bend spoons and astral project having the same "frozen" viewpoint of life... then you are really wrong.  :roll:

Sentinal

What you are missing is that it isn't simple, clean and catagorized. Many things will happen that you didn't expect. It would be nice and neat if you could learn a skill and switch it on and off when you want, but that isn't the way it works. I have known a number of people that wished they could un-learn it.

Bane

iv been psychic all my life there is no wishing i could turn it off,sadly some people can not handle the more subtler sences,through one point meditation iv made my psychic abilaties grow stronger and i have opened more of them,may times people use psychic poers without eve knowing it*subtle sences*meditation helps to tune into it.the thing is i think some poeple use falacious methods that are bad for them when meditation mastery is the prewiquisit(done over years)then more advanced methods are used,it is sad that so many people are trying to make money of of paranormal abilaties,"conning others for money"is a common trend here in the west and not many people know the reality of it while claiming mastery,in one hand sentinal is right there are inherant risks,but those risks are in the form os psychic attack by others whos attention you get by becomming psychicly powerful,its all very natural ,only here in the west it is suppressed becouse iff we all realised our true powers of the mind/spirit no one could controlle us"mass mind controlle"with the media and other such evils,in the end you must look within for the answers, becouse not many at all are willing to share the truth with you"and will decieve you outright"evory man creates his own destiny--remember that becouse many try and succede at getting others to forget so they can controlle peoples destiny for them,this is far bigger than we are,there is a much bigger picture that not many can see,we must make sure the right people "see that picture"reach for enlightenment and you will get what you seek.
he who contends with nothing is always victorious

andonitxo

Bane,

Could you explain a bit more how you feel that powers and how you drive them?

I use to have some sudden precognition flashes... Totally uncontrolled. I don't see anything, but I feel what's going to happen.

Thanks for your valuable viewpoint.

Bane

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its my pleasure,im not sure exactly how to answer your question,iff this does not help you then please refrase your question, but here goes. once acertain amount of one point meditation is done you become energy aware to a certain degree,then more work must be done to advance(energy aware)can mean more than just feeling it,however the aspect of feeling energy is very important,precognition is one psychic power that is very very useful(iff you can harnis and controlle it)there in(i think)is what your asking about,you must do considerable study with one point--pranyama--chackras---chi gung--meridians,these will give you a better understanding of psychic powers and their developmentonce you have learned to the point of remembering certin things/exorsises put them into aplication in your daily life,for evoryone it is differant some take years to develop som take only months,it is advisable to get a master to tech you so you can ask about sensations when meditating,once you gain a foothold by getting some psychic abilaty like felling/directin your inner energies,it becomes easy'er,and you can advance faster with less effort ,but remember you get what effort you give,mudras help alot they go with meditation and compliment it as amatter of fact it is a more advanced form of meditation that directly stimulates the meridian points in the hands and fingers,these are the things that many people here in the west hide,iv resolved to tell people the truth,some people are born "open" to psychic power,others have to work at it more to develop and dissolve the mindnumbing brainwash methods that society pushes on us to think we are nothing when we die and there are no spirits and such thingsgo to asia or india and people beleave openly about spirits and psychic powers"they just dont trust westerners very much"in the end it is your drive your will power which drives what you create as your reality for yourself. do you want something? get it, buy it, make it,it is up to us individually to make things happen for ourselves,dont rely on someone else to make it happen,those are things that drive me and my abilaties,define yourself and your motives/intent,and combined with one point meditation you will start to see this world for what it is and be able to manifest what you want/desire,i hope i answerd your question,iff not i would be glad to help any way i can,i am no master, but one with experiance,we never stop learning.
he who contends with nothing is always victorious

Bane

look into shugendo,they push their body to the absolute extreem limit by doing misogi(ritual purification)they stand under a freezing waterfall in the dead of winter(it gets-0 in japan in winter)as well as the other times of the year,traditionally once a year and they chant mantras loudly(yelling)while meditating under the freezing waterfall,also they do firewalking,some of the more hard core ones do the misogi alot,they fast and eat only pine needles,all for spiritual powers,in like twenty years they got it all."but you never hear of them flying around and stuff" (maybe they cant do that one) but they get some serious psychic powers.
he who contends with nothing is always victorious

stiev

I've been doing a specific type of yoga called Kriya yoga. I just started this year. It includes mudras, pranayama, etc, and a lot of chakra clearing and energy cultivation. Is this the sort of thing you mean, Bane?

Actually, thinking back to that book, Autobiography of a Yogi by Pamamahamsa Yogananda, it's full of psychic stuff. I was expecting a specific course of exercises in psychic awareness, but I think you may be right. The best place to develop psychic powers may be through the ancient systems for spiritual development.

Sentinal, you may well be right. I have no idea. There must, however, be sources of protection for the maladies which you speak of, otherwise every subtly-attuned person would be a wreck. I believe the other planes work similarly to this one in that the principle of will guides thought and action. I know very little about this, but can't you be protected (or not) by what you CHOOSE to pay attention to?

Sentinal

Some people do learn to deal with it, some end up a wreck:) Part of what gets you through the hazards is motivation, which is why post cautionary notes to people who are not clear on why they want it or appear to have the wrong motivation.

For the people that already have all of this happening, the choice has been made. They usually post asking how to control it or stop it. For me it just switched on one day. I had to learn to control it. I lost friends because of it. My choices have always been to help people, but still when I let things slip in conversation or people see me react to something before it happens people get spooked.

You have a choice. My recomendation is that you make that choice carefully. Read about other peoples experience first. I have known people that took it too casually, just like a new toy to play with. Then end up trying figure out how to get something out of their house or wishing they didn't know something. My concern for you is that you have been dismissive about what I am telling you. If you have a mountain in front of you, there are three choices. You can stay on the ground, You can climb the mountain with the proper gear, or you can free climb it. You are safest with the first choice. You could get skinned up with the second, but most likely you will be ok. The third is all or nothing, you make it or your done. What would your recomendation be to someone facing those choices?




stiev

I'm not sure, Sentinal, but if I obeyed every voice on the internet, it would, I guess, be like obeying all those spirits out in the ether.

I'm not being dismissive though. I hear you loud and clear. I doubt, however, that I will develop psychic powers overnight (or that I will even develop them at all), so that choice at present is not one that I have to make.

Hagethuriel

Quote from: stiev on November 17, 2006, 21:40:29
Does anyone know any exercises for developing clairvoyance or psychic vision? I would love to be able to do what psychics like John Edwards and those little old ladies at the Spiritualist Churches do.They must have techniques to develop these powers. They say that everyone has the power, so why not show us? I'm not interested in predicting tommorrow's trifecta in race 3 or anything like that, I'd just like to be able to see into the astral plane and speak with all those spirits they can talk to.Does anyone know how you can learn how to do this?
Jon Edward says he is a clairvoyant medium . He believes all clairvoyants are psychic but all psychics are not clairvoyant . I do believe that all humans can develop any clairient ability. Here are some precursors;
1. Right thought , right action to raise vibration
2. Energy body work ie Tai Chi or NEW
3. Meditation routinely
4. Attaining a light trance
5. Dedication & Practice
Here is a method to begin ;
QuoteThe spirits may appear at first as orbs or lines of golden light . Open these one at a time by willing it with your third eye and asking for help from guides .Then build up the image in a disciplined routine .By this I mean look to one area at a time and tell the sitter what you see as you go.

For example; I have a male spirit here . He has an average frame and he is tall .His face is long .His hair is curly and thick . He has a mustache that is neatly trimmed . His hair appears dark to me . His skin is light. I feel he is about 23 to 28 years old.

A common framework  is :
gender
frame size
height
shape of face
hairstyle
facial hair if any

Hair and skin colour are hard to see sometimes .So go with "light" or "dark" if you must .Eye colour can be  nearly impossible to get .Spirit usually appears at the age of their death unless they died young and then they may appear to grow up from the time of their death .So a child that died at the age of 5yo six years ago may show up at 5yo or at 11yo .
More here;
http://forums.riverofenlightenment.com/index.php/topic,313.0.html
"Yes there are two paths . You can go back , but in the long run , there's still time to change the road you're on " ~ Led Zeppelin

riddled_skies

Quote from: Sentinal on November 22, 2006, 18:34:57
Some people do learn to deal with it, some end up a wreck:) Part of what gets you through the hazards is motivation, which is why post cautionary notes to people who are not clear on why they want it or appear to have the wrong motivation.

For the people that already have all of this happening, the choice has been made. They usually post asking how to control it or stop it. For me it just switched on one day. I had to learn to control it. I lost friends because of it. My choices have always been to help people, but still when I let things slip in conversation or people see me react to something before it happens people get spooked.

You have a choice. My recomendation is that you make that choice carefully. Read about other peoples experience first. I have known people that took it too casually, just like a new toy to play with. Then end up trying figure out how to get something out of their house or wishing they didn't know something. My concern for you is that you have been dismissive about what I am telling you. If you have a mountain in front of you, there are three choices. You can stay on the ground, You can climb the mountain with the proper gear, or you can free climb it. You are safest with the first choice. You could get skinned up with the second, but most likely you will be ok. The third is all or nothing, you make it or your done. What would your recomendation be to someone facing those choices?





unfortunately, i took the third choice and failed... at first i wanted to quit and forget everything i had learned. my subconscous kicked in and said "no" (i have a connection with my subconscous)

soo, i guess i have to figure it all out. what should i do first? meditation, energy/chakra work? im guessin meditation. here's my background in psionics so far:

1. one day got curious and decided to look up telekinesis to see if it was real
2.figured out it was, then thought "damn, that would be so cool if i could do that! i could show my friends!"...etc...
3.was reading a forum on telkinesis and realized that theres LOTS more psychic abilities. the thing that really caught my intrest though, was OBES
4.the next few months i switched between OBES and telekinesis, as those two were the things that intrested me most
5. for telekinesis they said that meditation was mandatory, so i started meditating. i liked it, but i hated it
6.at the peak of my TK skill i was able to inch a psiwheel, but just barely. and i only did it once.
7.then i gave up and moved to obes. i swear i was SO damn close, i even had a lucid dream that simulated an obe, sensations and all. it was wonderful.
8.read an article on psipog about making a link with your subconscous and thought it would be amazing. so i did it. and it was amazing. without it, i mightve cracked under some of the pressure i had been goin through at the time.
9. developed a personal problem and wiggled through the thick of it painfully. ( in fact i still am, i had a breakdown recently. i posted about it in some other thread..)
10. and somehow, along the way of all of that, i turned into a zombie, so to speak. i lost my ego, forgot who i was. VERY confusing, hard to think about. only just recently have i started to use my experiences for my own benefit, therefore, finding somewhat who i am. sometimes im pretty ok, i mean, some of my old thought patterns are coming back. then somebody says something that reminds me of my... problem, and i get anchored back down through hell, and think, "Whoa, maybe this is reality after all?" and even though, logically, it doesn't make sense, my mind is convinced that it is the case.

okay, sorry, maybe that was more info than needed, but it feels better after i get it on paper.
"The most beatiful experience we can have is the mysterious. It is the fundamental emotion which stands at the cradle of true art, and.. science. Whoever does not know it and can no longer wonder, ..(or) marvel, is as good as dead, and his eyes are dimmed

Bane

i suggest that you wach the movie (what the bleep do we know) it will shed some light on things in general,its scientists talking about meditation,quantum singularity,spirituality,the movie might accually answer your question,they have it at blockbuster in the special interest section,by the way the scientists accually go so far as to say that what they tought us in school is a lie :-o
he who contends with nothing is always victorious

AstralVibe

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Quote from: Sentinal on November 18, 2006, 01:15:24
You would like to have other peoples thoughts and feelings constantly in your head, or to have people shy away from you because they are afraid you will know their secrets?

I would suggest you put more thought into it before opening that door. Think about what you would do with it and the impact it would really have on your life. It is easy to dream of all the neat things you could do with it, but speaking from experience, it changes they way you see others, and the way they see you.

It isn't as bad as you label it. If you can harness the power, just learn how to control it. Just like everything else we're trying to do here, it all ends in control. Whether its healing, astral project, ouija board, magick, internal work etc.. Everything that we do on this forum can be dangerous, thats why we have forums to ask questions. Its very limiting when you think of all the negative. Like learning to astral project, if you keep thinking of negs/demons/evil entities etc, you will definately see one. Whether its imaginary, or real, it will 99.9% of the time  manifest. Anyway, just my thoughts, do as you will.

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Alaskans

#39
Having some odd abilities has shown me some amazing things. But is also a bit annoying as I have to try very hard to controll myself.. I often involuntarily mess with people's conscious, and everybodies SUBconious is especially vulnerable.

I can vouch for the 'supernatural' path being dangerous. There is talk about people going crazy in their journey. I became aware of the ocean I believe is called the collective unconscious, and all the many currents within it. I believe there is a danger of going mad if you spend so much time in the water and loose track of your boat (ego), but I think it is very rare.

It is ESPECIALLY dangerous for the people just far in enough to be noticed through other dimensions, but not prepared enough to protect yourself. I have on four or more occasions been attacked by dark beings (they were especially scary in retrospect). I could only feebly protect myself, I don't know what would have happened had I not (literally) met Christ, who protected me, and now is my master/mentor (you would laugh at how casual our conversations are :-D).

I believe you have a lot of heart stiev and it will show you a deeper perpose. But first look into psychic self defense, or find someone who will guard you (in spirit) just in case. I got really pummeled because I did all my early work on my own in (what you would call) the wilderness, I learned a few self defense things on my own, but I had trouble with the more powerfull beings.

Was it worth is? Damn right it was!!! I'll never go back to the old world.

Edit: Funny thing about you being warned though is that the warning could be your worst enemy, like energy attracts is a universal law, and negative emotions attract and empower negative entities. ie. a warning can create apprehension thereby attracting a 'neg'. That is a reason I never had any success in defending with sheilds (except I when I modified it to be reflective like a mirror, which totally shut me off from all things 'supernatural') I didn't like sheilds, if 'they' didn't find a weak spot then they just waited for me to drop it, so through experimentation and annoyance I learned a technique for 'undoing' them; death for thought-forms and other weak constructs, I'll tell you about it if you want to know.
Every single person is an enigma of wonder waiting patiently to be realized.

Scoff if you want; soon we will be leading the race to new heights and you will wish you had followed us in our search for truth.

monicat777

I think you can do a lot of things to become more "aware".  I don't think however, that their is any prescription available to attain acute psychic awareness. (ie. premonitions, spirit communication, empathic abilities.. etc)  There are things you can do to expand these abilities.. I really feel in most cases, intense psychics have a familial heritage for one.. and have had their basic abilities for as long as they can remember (since birth).  If you open yourself up to the ideas of psychic awareness, you will see interesting things unfold all the time.  You don't miss the connection between coincidences and you are able to see the big picture when making choices..(etc) 

Their are many different levels of psychic awareness also.  The lesson is..you're never given more than you can handle. (though you may feel pushed at times)

I really feel that acute psychic awareness is something you're born with.  I know a lot of people might not like that idea, and want 'in'.. But, it's not all peaches and cream, as stated before.  Their is a reason some people are born this way and others are not.  We should try to respect that, and indeed watch what we wish for. 

An interesting book.. Developing Your Psychic Skills.  I forget the author's name.

Sentinal

Quote from: Alaskans on February 18, 2007, 02:53:51
I learned a technique for 'undoing' them; death for thought-forms and other weak constructs, I'll tell you about it if you want to know.

Sounds interesting. More detail?

Alaskans

It's probably a little over your head right now, but I thought I would mention it. It's like a psi ball.
First you need to literally catch the bad energy cluster in your hands, if you are lucky and can see them then good for you. Otherwise you have to 'scrape,' that is run your hands perpendicular to your body, palms facing the direction they are moving, catching energy in your hands, then doing the thing mentioned below multiple times. I really dont like doing the 'scrape' because it removes most of your own energy.

If you have an idea where the neg energy is, you catch it, scoop it like you would a fly. Then you create a vacumn the point between your palms, you very slowly pull your hands apart. Image no outside energy or air being able to reach that center point, increasing the vacumn point between your hands. Then you pull your hands apart very forcefully, yanking the vacumn apart, and whatever it is you want to 'undo'.
I say undo because it uses your energy, universal energy, and the force of being pulled apart to change the energy cluster back into universal energy. It doesnt seem to work on spirits, ghosts, etc, but is very effective against negative energy, thought forms, or other not really living things.
Every single person is an enigma of wonder waiting patiently to be realized.

Scoff if you want; soon we will be leading the race to new heights and you will wish you had followed us in our search for truth.

Sentinal

Quote from: Alaskans on February 22, 2007, 14:42:08
It's probably a little over your head right now

Excuse me? You don't know me and you just made a pretty big assumption.

Alaskans

Oh, I'm very sorry, I mistook you for stiev.  :roll:
You have a right to be irritated at my mistake, but you should lighten up! Or life just sucks (I have to tell myself that all the damn time)
Every single person is an enigma of wonder waiting patiently to be realized.

Scoff if you want; soon we will be leading the race to new heights and you will wish you had followed us in our search for truth.