please also delete this folder Adrian, thanks

[Violet]

Dear Blue Light Mystic,

Usually doctors use measureable biochemical imbalance, brain scans, genetics and family genetics studies to detect mental illness or the risk of mental illness.  In other words they like something tangible.  However with possession a key way to tell it is not mental illness is if someone had normal blood tests, brain scans prior and has no genetic predisposition but suddenly has a problem.  The problem is very few people unless they have epilepsy have had these kinds of tests prior to a possession.  But once possessed the biochemistry and brain scans totally change.  So it is like the chicken or the egg is many ways.  An excellent example to get your mind wrapped around this topic is that when studies were done on people with split personalities one of the personalities would have allergies but the other personalities did not.  Same body just different personalities manifesting.  This tells you right there how powerful thoughts are in manifesting physical change in a body.  

I believe there are people who truly have genetically caused mental illnesses and that they are not possessed.  But do some have both mental illness and possession at the same time.  I imagine this can occur.  Is it easier for an entity to possess these people thus compounding their difficulties...I can not say.  

Hope this helps a little.  

Love and Light to One and All,
Violet



Edited by - Violet on 23 February 2002  05:18:03

Edited by - Violet on 23 February 2002  05:21:14

[DreamSpeak]

Anyone following the Andrea Yates trial?  I think it's possible she was attacked in a way.  Ehat she did was just so unspeakable, it makes me sick.  Killing all her children by drowning them in the bathtub.  Here's a rather interesting article about it.  http://www.cnn.com/2002/LAW/02/22/yates.trial/index.html

DS

[Two Bears]

Hello Dream Speak

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Anyone following the Andrea Yates trial?  I think it's possible she was attacked in a way.  Ehat she did was just so unspeakable, it
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I believe she was under the influence.

In my opinion; about 80-90% of the people on druge were influenced to take them originaly, and when the person is stoned; they jump in the body to experience the hit.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Rob]

"In my opinion; about 80-90% of the people on druge were influenced to take them originaly, and when the person is stoned; they jump in the body to experience the hit."

I have to disagree. I used to smoke (too) large quantities of pot, and knew/know many other people in similar situations. It is likely that doing drugs often lowers and "dirties" the vibrations, and makes such people more susceptible, but most people I know got into doing then simply because they enjoyed the effects. Addiction is very different, often very subtle. I have never experienced any increased neg activity while smoking (certinaly no possession), nor noticed any changes in people who were smoking while sitting over running water (my bed). Further, many drugs actually produce feelings of euphoria, which I very much doubt negs will want to get near (sometimes without any real come-downs, which would logiically be the time negs get interested). However, I do know of people who have taken large quanitities of pills (ecstacy - up to 5-10 in one night, not low quality either, crazy stuff ) who then have experienced the most horrible nightmares for a few nights. IMO, this is due to increased susceptibility, which negs then notice and attempt to attach through. I have experienced this once, took half a pill (I was very, very drunk) and when I slept that night had...well not a nightmare, nor could it classify as a typical attack or anything I would have expected, but it was certainly not pleasant. I was not influenced to take it in the first place though, my attitude to trying new drugs has always been more like an explorer, interested as to what i will find.

I would love to hear though, what made you say that? I enjoy discussions on this subject.

[Two Bears]

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I have to disagree. I used to smoke (too) large quantities of pot, and knew/know many other people in similar situations. It is likely that doing drugs often lowers and "dirties" the vibrations, and makes
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

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I would love to hear though, what made you say that? I enjoy discussions on this subject.
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Let's just say I have my reasomns, but can not put my fingers on the doccumentation right now.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Nita]

Hello Everyone
  I believe that mental illness has a tendancy to make it easier to be possessed. Possession also causes mental illness's so it is a sort of catch 22 situation. The reason this happens is because the person is connected to their own reality part of the time. The enity insinuates itself into the life view by obsession. It then shapes the experiences of the person. The person gets trapped into a sort of mental cycle that makes it more susceptible and then the enity is capable of possessing the person.
  It is also why heavy drinker and drug users can be possessed and obsessed. The person gets trapped into certain thought patterns and cycles. They reinforce these cycles by life actions, and then when they have blackouts they can become possessed. It can happen either way. Different people have different reactions to drugs and alchohol but once they get to where they have blackouts and don't know what reality is. or what they are doing. They become susceptible at that point to other influences.
  Nita

[Two Bears]

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I believe that mental illness has a tendancy to make it easier to be possessed. Possession also causes mental illness's so it is a sort of catch 22 situation. The reason this happens is because the person is connected to their own reality part of the time. The enity insinuates
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Hello Nita:

I am in the other camp. I believe the posession comes first, and the mental illness occurs later because the person is out of balance.

Two Bears

Aloha nui loa
Received the title "master" 8 times and still trying to master myself.

[Winged_Wolf]

Very crude way to tell--examine the person psychically, and remove all links or entities you find.  Shield them heavily, and see if their condition changes.


--Winged Wolf

[Blue Light Mystic]

...bye all...have a great astral life...