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vargaskall

Hello again Vargaskall here

Has anyone ever seen the hat man or the infamous shadow people? Do share your experiences i am
always interested.

KRDecade

This guy?



I wish!!

I google'd "the hat man" I found some pretty interesting stuff.

As for shadow people, I may have interacted with one once in an OBE, but it could have been something else. http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/my_first_obe-t29789.0.html;msg241470#msg241470 I'm not exactly sure what it was though.

I've wanted to try staying awake for 48-72 hours, because I remember reading that you can hallucinate, and that it's possible to see shadow people. The only hard part is finding an appropriate time to stay up for 72 hours...and the fact that I would freak out if I actually did see anything...

But I'm sure someone here has probably had an experience with shadow people, and I'm sure there's some kind of explanation for shadow people in astral terms, too.

shadow people stuff:
http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Shadow_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people
http://drfong.blogspot.com/2008/01/shadow-people-hat-man.html


vargaskall

Wow interesting experience KRDecade thanks for sharing. Thats him alright most people say he's after
souls. Keep the responses coming people i want to hear more hat man stories especially if you have seen him or spoken to him.

Tayesin

Yes,
I've seen them and had to deal with one of them on two separate instances.

What you described is like a group, or order of souls that have chosen to avoid the Light and for some crazy reason wear their dumb uniform as a sign of their order. Personally I think they love to dramatize, hence the costume.

Yes they are powerful and to be wary of. But, and this is important so read it carefully.... You can deal with them yourself. Inside you all is a golden light.. it is Love Energy.. and it IS the most powerful TOOL you have. To learn more about what you can do, please read here...  http://www.simply-spirit.com/darkside_and_negs.php

Twice I used this method to deal with one of these guys and it weakened him to such a point that he did not return for four years and even then was too weak to go for me so he attempted to get in through my young daughter.. which is when I dealt with him the second time. He has not returned.

vargaskall

Very powerful stuff Tayesin

Thank you i guess unconditional love conquers all i will definitely keep that in mind. must be hard to give these guys love though. Here are some questions about your experience. Where you dealing with the hat man or the shadow beings?
Where did you see him in dream or awake? Did he talk to you did he touch you?
Did he attack you did he follow you? Did he hide or did he want you to see him? Do you think these guys
are human souls or do they recruit human souls? Do you think they are lower astral entities or maybe ets?
Why do you think he was attracted to you or was it random? Do you think they can physically harm you  I know they feed on negative emotions
hate,anger,and fear. Did he have glowing red eyes? Sorry to bombard you with questions like this.
Basically i want to hear the whole story or as much as you can remember.

soulslasher6

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Very powerful stuff Tayesin

Thank you i guess unconditional love conquers all i will definitely keep that in mind. must be hard to give these guys love though. Here are some questions about your experience. Where you dealing with the hat man or the shadow beings?
Where did you see him in dream or awake? Did he talk to you did he touch you?
Did he attack you did he follow you? Did he hide or did he want you to see him? Do you think these guys
are human souls or do they recruit human souls? Do you think they are lower astral entities or maybe ets?
Why do you think he was attracted to you or was it random? Do you think they can physically harm you  I know they feed on negative emotions
hate,anger,and fear. Did he have glowing red eyes? Sorry to bombard you with questions like this.
Basically i want to hear the whole story or as much as you can remember.




I was walking through the hall in my house when in the corner of my eye, all of the hall behind me turned very bright for half a second or so. No one else was home. I decided to get some fresh air so i go sit outside when i notice from the corner of my eye again, a sort of creature, approximately 5.7, white and grey, and "spikey" or "rigid", as soon i looked it was gone, so what happened?  Is it possible it was a shadow man or does anyone know any other creature it could have been?

vargaskall

I was walking through the hall in my house when in the corner of my eye, all of the hall behind me turned very bright for half a second or so. No one else was home. I decided to get some fresh air so i go sit outside when i notice from the corner of my eye again, a sort of creature, approximately 5.7, white and grey, and "spikey" or "rigid", as soon i looked it was gone, so what happened?  Is it possible it was a shadow man or does anyone know any other creature it could have been?

You mean you saw me that was me during an obe (LoL just kidding)
It could have been someone projecting though or maybe a little nasty or a ghost. It doesn't sound like
a shadow being or the hat man though.

Tayesin

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Where you dealing with the hat man or the shadow beings?

The being I dealt with each time was what you've called a Hat Man.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Where did you see him in dream or awake?

My first experience of it was when preparing for mditation to "Journey", seconds before I was about to leave he came in and ripped open a part of my protective shield, looked in and smirked at me with an 'evil' look on his face. I noticed he was badly scarred in the face for some reason... he reminded me of Freddy Kruger in a way.. different costume though and no weapons, lol. Anyway, I stopped the meditation and ran outside for a smoke and think about it. This is when Guidance told me he had done me a service by showing that I was not yet ready to deal with more powerful beings than I was currently working against.

A few hours later one of my good friends, who is very much aware, was woken up by this hatman as he entered her dream and was outside her bedroom window ... she saw the shadow cast on her curtain that matched the guy in the dream.... so she phoned me to talk about him. This lady was in her mid -30's and not "into" Negs and the like.

The next time was a two years later as I was conducting a guided meditation for a guy to meet his higher-self face to face when this Hat Man entered the guys experience and acted threateningly. So I entered the guys experience to deal with the Hat man and using the golden energy from my heart centre dealt perfectly with him. I did have to find a reason to feel Love for this being, in the end it was that he was misguided in his choices which made me feel Love for him, from then on dealing with him was easy. Once the Love energy went into him he started to sparkle a bit from the inside and simply ran away in a hurry.

It was another four years I think before he tried to get in again through my daughter who could see him as clear as looking at me. Again I Loved him and he left quickly but more healed.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Did he talk to you did he touch you?

Not talking with voice or verbal-like telepathy.. his communications were more whole idea/concept radiating at me... so more like powerful Guides do when working with you. I knew through his Feeling what he was, what his alliances were and how powerful he was, and how he used people without their consent while they were astral and in his influence.. kind of like hypnosis I suppose. We touched when I hugged him to pour in the Loving energy.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Did he attack you did he follow you?

Only with ripping open my shielding that one time when I first met him. Any other time he was attempting to use or attack others when I had to deal with him.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Did he hide or did he want you to see him?

They are brazen, they have unbalanced Ego so they like to be seen, like to be feared, and be mysterious. They are Jerks, powerful Jerks.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Do you think these guys are human souls or do they recruit human souls?

There are no human souls, there is only Souls, and each choose different experiences in various reality's. I've seen this hatman using the astral form of a woman he had captured while she was sleeping and astral, he was using her as his Consort and Patsy until I dealt with him and returned her to her body.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Do you think they are lower astral entities or maybe ets?

They are simply other souls doing different things to you and me. They operate on many levels of awareness in the astral but I do think they are restricted or limited only to those realms and not able to function in the same manner once in Soul awareness levels..

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Why do you think he was attracted to you or was it random?

Because I offer a real way to experience and grow into your own higher awareness of Higher-self and Soul, directly being able to experience for yourself at will. This goes against every control-drama inherent in all Belief-Systems, so not only do I shine brightly and show others how to do the same for themselves, I also offend a large percentage working more negative agendas. There is a battle going on in all the realms for control.. little do the participants realize how much of an illusion what they are fighting for really is.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Do you think they can physically harm you  I know they feed on negative emotions hate,anger,and fear.

I do think they can exert a degree of control once you have let them in by whatever means. Some forms do feed off energy we put out in thoughts and feelings, but they are a  different form of being to these hatmen. Will mention more about that at the bottom.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Did he have glowing red eyes?

No. He had blue-ish eyes.. it is only a form they wear. The only thing I've seen with red glowing eyes is the one I call the Emissary from what is now poorly called  the Reptilians.

Quote from: vargaskall on July 09, 2009, 10:27:05
Sorry to bombard you with questions like this.

It's OKAY. Questions are good.

Now onto another form being confused in this conversation, the shadow beings. There are types within that term. Some are blob-like beings that insert an instigating thought into your mind, one that offends you and causes you to react with a energy spike.. this they feed on. Many types do such things, so we must be aware of our thoughts... our thoughts... so we know what is not our own thought and what is external implanted. When you get one of these thoughts you know it, you wonder why you thought that type of thing. The best way to deal with this is simply to not react, instead cut off the energy you would have given to the thought by focusing on something you intend in the moment, now.

Sorry this was so long  guys.

vargaskall

Excellent Tayesin

What an incredible and inspiring story thank you for sharing it. Is love the only way of getting rid of these
guys?

Tayesin

Quote from: vargaskall on July 11, 2009, 13:44:28
Is love the only way of getting rid of these guys?

No, but it is the most effective way. They have no defence against loving energy, and more importantly, by dealing with them in this way we begin their healing into Light. They can't be killed, can't be vanquished for long, but they can be dealt with lovingly.