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KP

I've found that they've been attracted to my Reiki.  I've been having a lot of attunements recently, and after the attunements i'm always getting negs around the house.  I haven't done much to deal with them though, I put salt in NSEW of my room and that helped a lot
I havent had much experience with scrying, so I wouldn't know where to send the Reiki or how?

KP

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Nita

Hello KP
  Anything that connects to divine forces has a higher vibration pattern. The higher vibrations drive away things that are of a lower vibration most of the time. The conclusive test is for the whole energy signautre to be a high vibration, high pitch, bright pleasant colors, and a pretty musical medley of notes describing the inner being.
  Sheilds are very important and there are articles teaching how to do them upon this website.
  Nita

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Goldenserpent

Hi KP,
Actually it is as what Nita had said. I find that Reiki has a higher vibration. I had given advice to my friends and clients (before the PPSD book came out) that they can use Reiki. It really works since Reiki works on a higher frequency, if you have Karuna or Seichem its even better. But Reiki is just as fine. By giving yourself Reiki often, you can build up a higher vibration within your Aura and also strengthening it.
I'm quite surprised to hear that you had attracted Negs. It might not be related to Reiki. If you can scry, you might want to find a place (I would recommend someplace not in your house so that you are not distracted) and walk through the rooms. The example that I had given was quite an unusual case, since portals or gateways need some kind of activation. In that case that I had said it was because of the 8 year old brother of my friend. The boy opens the portal unconsciously while he sleeps. Anyway, it might be that you find some sort of small vortex or portal. What you can do is, remember the spot after scrying, go to it, then draw the Reiki Sympbol CHK on it. If you do not know the symbol you can search the web for Chou Ku Rei. And consentrate on giving Reiki energy to it at the same time strongly visualize whatever it is that you saw while scrying to slowly shrink....until it is gone. Most of the people I know would give Reiki throughout all the rooms.


Goldenserpent

Hi KP
Its me again, I'm sorry since at first I didn't catch your question. Since you don't have any experience with scrying, I would say you might want to try to give Reiki to the whole room. The CHK Symbols works, but when you draw it, you have to visualize it white and concentrate on it.
Go with your intuition. All of us have the 6th sense which some had developed and some hadn't, but psychic abilities are with in us all - its just not dominant. Follow your intuition. Be passive, and you will receive information on where to send Reiki. Best way is to stand at the door and put your hands forward and have the intention to send Reiki. Visualize white light...or divine energy emitting from your hands. Places where you feel a stronger Reiki flow might be the spot. What ever it is, do not have fear. By having fear you had given it the chance. While you hare giving Reiki the divine energy is surging through you so you shouldn't be afraid. Keep giving until you don't feel the flow of Reiki.
Do it to every room if you like. It wouldn't take more than an hour or so.
I hope this helps.


Nita

Hello Golden Serpant
  I have a few differences with what you should do with a portal. You do not stand in front of a portal. You do not put your hands on the energy. It takes more than raised vibrations to close it. Reiki is not a cure all for anything like this.
  You stand to the side of the portal. You Do this because you don't want to get sucked through or attacked by something out of a portal. You mentally loop it back upon itself. You then close off the other end after you have banished and driven anything inside the tunnel that connects to the gateway back to the other side. You then collapse the gateway take the other end of the connecting tunnel and move it to a high vibrational energy signature that is of the divine force.
  You change the vibrational pattern of where it was connected and make it so the energy signature is no longer the same. You have the people learn how to shield themselves, their homes, their vechicles, and any other place where the energies might find them again. They also have to clear themselves with affirmations or other forms of energy release methods to make sure they do not bring it back if they are the ones that did it.
  No one method ever works. It always takes a combination of methods to remove the problems. I know for a fact that Reiki does not make it where evil forces can not find the people. I have had to help to many people who knew reiki to think otherwise.
  Nita

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www.hermeticuniversityonline.com

Goldenserpent

Hi Nita...
I understand what you mean. In my opinion every method depends on each person. As we know, the essence of magick is energy. So it really depends on the person how attuned they are, and how much energy they can raise, charge, direct and control it. I might have given a not so complete advice for KP, since I do not know her background.
The example that I gave is for one who really is able to work fluently with energy. I've seen people doing the LBRP and still not able to banish imps, while some using the LBRP is able to banish even demons (in this case I would probably use the Greater version just to be on the safe side [ :)] ).
My appologies.....


KP

Sorry for taking so long to reply,  thanks for the advice I will try some out tonight.  I've had many Reiki attunements so I feel my Reiki energy will help a great deal.  I was wrong in thinking they were attracted to my Reiki, it must be something else, but they always seem to target me.
They don't bother me that much anymore but I know I need to get rid of them, I will try out an LBRP and see how I get on with that as well as some cleansing with Reiki.  If that doesn't work I will try some other methods.
Thanks

KP

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Nita

Hello KP
  Energy is what attracts negs and if you work with any forms of energy then it will make you stand out from a bunch of people who don't use energy. The negs go for a higher level of energy and try to subvert the energy by causing negative or very strong emotions.
  It may all just be energy but I can guarantee that learning to sheild is better than thinking nothing can get into your life because it is "just energy." It is not that simple. There is a lot of information on this on this website.
  Nita

www.astralhealer.com
www.hermeticuniversityonline.com

kifyre

quote:
Originally posted by Nita:
Hello KP
  Anything that connects to divine forces has a higher vibration pattern. The higher vibrations drive away things that are of a lower vibration most of the time. The conclusive test is for the whole energy signautre to be a high vibration, high pitch, bright pleasant colors, and a pretty musical medley of notes describing the inner being.
  Sheilds are very important and there are articles teaching how to do them upon this website.
  Nita




Hi Nita,

I think I've been through the entire web site and I haven't seen anything specifically on shielding. Could you give some tips or point to information?

Thanks very much,

Mark



Nita

Hi Kifphyre
  I mention it in my articles but I call them wards. Shields or wards are the same thing. The best article I know on shielding is on //www.abardoncompanion.com
It is a great website and in the essays and commentaries they have articles on shielding. Specifically Essay three.
  MacArthur also gave a link in the topic on this forum called Why not Shield?
  Nita

www.astralhealer.com
www.hermeticuniversityonline.com

Astrocio

quote:
Originally posted by Nita:
Energy is what attracts negs and if you work with any forms of energy then it will make you stand out from a bunch of people who don't use energy. The negs go for a higher level of energy and try to subvert the energy by causing negative or very strong emotions.
It may all just be energy but I can guarantee that learning to sheild is better than thinking nothing can get into your life because it is "just energy." It is not that simple. There is a lot of information on this on this website


I wouldn't really agree on that 100%. from my experience entities goes for those of a weaker mind, or having some sort of weakness in the mind. things like child abuse, drugs, low self esteem, etc. these are easy targets for entities. energy plays an important role too, but when one has a sufficient amount of energy and also vibrating quite high, it keeps them away. to have a higher vib, most are able to overcome strong emotions. if an entity wants to invade, it will have a hard time with it.  i've seen meditation masters who have completely let go of emotions - and his vibration is waaay high.
i don't believe in shielding. i had a very bad experience with shielding once. if you face a negative entity a shield might be good. if it comes to a demon, your shield will break like glass. their powers are immense. i don't want to go into details, but as far as i know, most shield can't hold demons.


Nita

Hello Astrocios
  I have had my shields stop a attack by major stuff that most poeple won't experience because I spend my time getting rid of the negs other people can't get rid of or don't know how to get rid of them.
  I never use a shield that will shatter. I use multiple layers of different methods that get nasiter the closer they get to me.
  I visualized the innermost layer being laid together sharpened razor blades that were spinning so quick that it looked solid silver but would cut anything to pieces. I next did one that did dimensional shifts and put things elsewhere in locations that I knew would be unnatural to negs. I then added about 4 other layers. I have had over 30 years of practice doing it though.I do this on my house, my vehicles, my hubby and attach the energy to be supplied by the forces of life and divine forces. It is a very complex and exacting artform and I do enjoy it.
  I have helped many people who started out being very positive loving people that a neg drive them to drugs, drink and hopelessness. The only real cures are knowing yourself and being in control of yourself.
  There are so many things in life that we aren't in control of and never will be able to control. The one thing we can control is how we act and what we do or will not do.  People who are victimized by negs are not  flawed or people who caused it to themselves. Most of the people I have helped have had those they trusted do these things to them. The others had it happen to them because they were the sorts of people that accepted the blame of their actions and let things attach to punish them for being not perfect in some way.  The negs and other people used this to their advantage. Some were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. It has been a real minority of people who were utter screwups or that did things to themselves.
  Nita


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Kristen

Hi Astrocio -

People who have gone through extremely painful experiences and let those experiences effect them are not necessarily of weaker mind.  They might just necessarily be of stronger mind and heart.  There are lots of things that happen in the world - and if nothing effects you then you're hiding in a cave.  Its like learning how to wake board.  First you have to try - and you're likely to hit the water hard often if you try to do tricks.  But you have to hit the water in order to master the tricks.  Or - its like the idea of reaching your hand down into a mucky pit to pull someone else out before they drown in the mud or it caves in on them.  If you don't know what its like to trip and fall into the inside of a muddy pit then how do you know how not to fall in?  Better yet - if you are not practiced in the art of falling into pits then how can you be practiced in the art of navigating your way out carrying someone else on your shoulders?

In my opinion, or maybe at least to my level of understanding, there is no purpose to being uneffected by anything.... great masters of anything are definitely effected by what they've mastered or they wouldn't be masters.

Say that three times fast!

Kristen - weak, wet, and muddy in my little world.




Astrocio

Hi Nita..
i was confident with my shield with everything. it wasn't a problem until i had to help a friend. the first time i felt it, just the presence itself makes your knees weak, i knew that i was not dealing with a normal neg. my friend had made an evocation summoning a certain type of entity. he did not give the entity the permission to depart and just ended the ritual. so, the portal is still open. i don't know what demon it was, but it just shattered my shield.
to tell you the truth, i nearly died with that thing. the only thing that saved me was the diamond armor mantra. i never used this mantra, since i was so confident that the psi shield will hold entities. much powerful beings seem to be able to rasie and harness more energy than our minds can. all it did was looked at me and poof... my shield was shattered.
your shielding is similiar to mine. i have a shield of thorns at the second line of defence before reaching my inner shield - i actually have 5. yes, i know many people are at the wrong place at the wrong time. some do wrong things at the right time, and some do things which they have no idea what they are actually doing.

Hi Kristen..
what i meant was that if one goes through life's trauma without letting go and not being able to heal themselves - while they still dwell in it, they are vulnerable. i don't mean weak mind as in the literal sense. i mean that they have a weakness that can be used against them for an attack.
as for the sense of masters, i think your looking at a different perspective. a master is one who surpasses the trial. during the learning he is affected by things - when mastership comes, all there is, is bliss and at that point - letting go of the knowledge he had attained: you probably heard the phrase "if i had known what i know today, it wouldn't have taken me 10 years..."
the purpose to the true sense of the word of enlightenment is letting go; thus one is uneffected. i'm not using the word enlightenment here lavishly like how many thinks that it comes when you just simply don't think while meditating - its not that easy at all. many thinks that they have been enlightened - but when it does happen, the ego part of oneself is gone. what happens in enlightenment is when your soul merges with your consciousness. that is the real thing.
first, there is no "try". either you do it or you don't. if you do it, but you failed, it means that you did it but failed. if we learn a certain thing, it doesn't mean that we will stick to that subject. if you study archeology, you don't only study the prehistoric animals. you need to learn how to dig, how to manage the team, how to make contacts with the country you want to examine the fossil..... etc. in the end, you can also conclude that it is part of the study course. its like life, we are born, we learn, we work, then we die. if we go into details you can say that we learn to deal with problems, we learn to stand on our own feet, we know how to deal with sickness, etc. the point is, you can't summarize one subject as to a rule. things come and go. when you take a quest to learn/gain something, its not the goal/destination, but the journey itself.

Cheers!




Nita

Hi Astrocio
  Robert says I should write a article on shields and I promised myself that I would do it. I have been attacked by conjured entities also. It is in how you power the shields on whether or not it can be shattered.
  You shielded with the diamond shield which I believe can be attributed to the diamond aspect of the buddha. The indestructible vessel .
  Kristen is correct that a lot of times the people who go through these things end up being better people. They know how to have compassion and  once they overtcome their problems are able to be more understanding than others.
  Nita

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www.hermeticuniversityonline.com

Goldenserpent

As a practioner of Magick, the LBRP works really well. But there are people who are not able to do the LBRP, but what I found out is Reiki works.
A friend of mine had some trouble with things moving around. She asked me for help and I had to scry to see what exits there and I found 2 portals or gateways. I wasnt able to go to her place to help her so I recommended her to use Reiki to close the portals. As I was watching her from my place the portal really did close.
I had used Reiki as a tool several times also this is what I recommend my clients and friends when they are experiencing some disturbance. Mostly I don't banish every single thing. If it is a lost earth bound spirit I would mostly help them to the Light. Some leaves when you tell them to. Some don't and therefore you can command them "Be Gone!!". The real stubborn ones, I do banish them. But for those who have Reiki you might want to give it a try. What I found out is that the frequency of Reiki is much higher than what they can handle.
So for those who have Reiki, you have a valuable tool with you. :)