Psychic Warfare

[Dark Knight]

My head has been penetrated for some time now.

MY aura is black, and from what Nita says, they've invaded my spinal cord and have access to my nervous system. They block all the light I try to bring in, have access and control over my chakras, and zip and unzip me at will...no need for psychic attack to gain entry to me. They just dive in and it's done.

I wish I could tell you how to stop it. They block all my attempts. (imagine a you as a cop fighting with a crook that is vying for control over your gun).

[X]

So these things are "negs" or whatever the term is used for these entities?
Hmmm, I wasn't sure if it was a very strong human or an entity.
But yeah...

[shadowdancer]

Hmmmm.....I feel like there is quite a bit of...hmmm...how should i say it....[?]....Dark Knight, I feel that it is very important for you to seek help OUTSIDE of the sphere of energy dynamics...seek some help in a more grounded area.  Counselling can be an extraordinary experience and can really help you to unlock your energy reserves to remove any unwanted influences in your life.  Sometimes, fighting fire with fire just makes a bigger fire.

[beavis]

Nothing X said indicates he has any mental problems. Would you blame a rape victim for being attacked? Tell her to go to a shrink because something is wrong with her that caused her to be raped.

[shadowdancer]

Whoa there guy!  there are just too many things to mention that we are conditioned to accept as "healthy" in our society that you would be really hard pressed to find someone who is not experiencing some kind of mental or emotional turmoil.  i feel as though you may have assumed that because i recommended some form of counseling(and that can come in many many forms); that i, myself, have made a moralistically superior assesment of one of my fellow human beings.  if i am correct in my assumption of your assumption, then i hope that this clears things up.  []  oh, and the analogy to rape, is, in my opinion, really a poor one.  it is really an empty playground.  meaning there are way too many unknown factors in the hypothetical that you use as a comparison.  for example, you have placed a feminine gender on your hypothetical rape victim, ok, where is this girl when she was raped?  was she drinking or on any other drugs?  what is her family history and her mental and emotional predisposition and potential for placing herself in potentially threatening positions?  etc etc, and i do not mean to say BLAME.  blame is a ridiculously juvenile concept.  more appropriately, i feel, the concept of RESPONSIBILTY is key.  How am i playing in to a situation i might not want to be in?  where is the energetic focus in my energy body? where are my blocks?  when we can take responsibility for our contribution to where we find ourselves in our lives, then we can more clearly see what is outside us.  in this context, counselling becomes an extraordinarly beautiful process.  it is not to label someone as having "mental problems"......i wonder if thou dost project too much?

[arakara]

****Response to X post:

Well, X, make sure you shoot down that suggestion your friend gave you. Its only as unblockable as you percieve it to be. I personally believe...well we all know what I personally believe (if you don't then read my thread "Its All In Your Mind").

I personally do have a warning for you though. DO NOT accept the limiting, negative, utterly disempowering beliefs, suggestions, insinuations, hints, or downright affirmations that some of the other members on this board (like dark knight) spout. If you do, then you can kiss your butt goodbye because the attacks will rain you like a hail storm.

Let me put it this way, if I were an individual that enjoyed finding victims to attack psychically, I would go to a forum just like this.. and say all the things that dark knight (and some others) is saying. I'm not saying that what he's doing, its just, if I wanted to break down all the mental walls I could before waging a psychic attack, I would say exactly what dark knight is saying. Get yourself believing what he does, and its practically impossible NOT have some bad psychic attacks happen.
PS. I just might begin my own personal investigating to see if something similar to this is going on, because this forum is definitely different that any other related forum I've ever been on (I have no fear of seeking retrobution if that is).

[Dark Knight]

Grounded...if you only knew how funny that statement is. [V]

I was raped by them, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and yes, physically.

More power and light can be generated by working together, validating each other, ackowledging each other's existences and needs, hurts, pains and suffering vs a one person glory hog.

Love and compassion existed long before any counselor ever did... Unless it now requires a college degree to see another person's humanity.

We are lost if that is the case.

[shadowdancer]

dark knight,  
      love and compassion are the best counsellors.  degree or no.  as i mentioned previously, counselors can come in many different forms...as in the concept of the sat guru.  hmmm...from what i can tell you expressed a need for community.  this can be gained from support groups.  you know, people who can emphathize with your pain and can be there for you.  can sit with the pain and emotion with you.  to be a friend.  its interesting you mention the idea of a glory hog...its an egocentric concept that can be applied in negativa.  meaning, that someone with a tremendous amount of pain can be seen to be acting in a way that may seem just as self-centered as a "glory hog", by keeping the pain and emotion.  it can make them feel special, just as the glory hog.  think about it.  i am not judging you. []

[CRIMINALMIND63]

This is for the rape topic. How can you say responsible. People that think like this are close to the way rapist think. If i want to get drunk I have every right to get drunk without some guy trying to take advantage of that. I have every right to go anywhere I choose to go. Get off the family and mantal and emotional it sounds like your discribing the attacker. If you want to question this I have abnormal psychology book here and crimiinal justice books.
Now to DARK Knight sorry people but he knows what he is talking about. Not any him so do other's myself included. These are things you have yet to learn. Maybe you have the chance to know how to keep someone from doing this to you and that's why you haven't been attacked.
For one thing read Dion Fortune's book on Psychic self-defense she tells you to close the victims aura. I know your chakras can be attuned, they are attuned for different reason's and are done from either in person or done from projection. If you don't believe this i'll give you an example but in no means am i accuse them of doing this.
Look up at the top of the screen the topic says Psychic self-defense.  We post here because we are being attacked. Robert Bruce has a book out on self-defense because he experienced attacks. Our problem isn't go out in public and pick up some bad attitude energy and have it for a day and it's gone.
I'm not hear for sympathy and someone to share my pain with and neither is any other victim here. We are looking for help and anyone that knows how to help isn't helping us. Maybe if you knew black magic you would know what it's about and could help. All magic is based onyour aura and chakras. It has to enter your aura either through a hole in your aura or through your chakras. Unless elementals are being use but this doesn't effect the person it's a physical object.
I'm sorry if this offends anyone but not to many people have enough knowledge here. If you did you would know we speak the truth or you know and aren't telling us. It's not just create what you think and that's the way it is. I can say I don'y believe in attacks and I very tried saying i don't know my attacker I never met him but it doesn't work he still attacks me.
I can tell you what I know was done to me, what I seen and what I felt. I can aslo tell you what I believe was done to me at the time I see and felt this. I have yet someone tell me what was done.
I was told I was preauratized, this is a word that was told to me. You can assume what ever you want by this word and me using it. Many people use different words but the concept is the same.
If anyone does energy work or opens or closes there chakras they should feel it. I have someone do something to mine. I once seen my attacker send me a scarab beetle to my heart chakra. I seen this with my eyes open. I see dark shadows out of the corner of my eyes. I see my attacker here with me at times.
Maybe this will help you. Most of us beening attack have our psychic channels open blown open that means we experience every sense on another plane, astral, spiritual what ever. We recieve what our attackers send us.
I didn't mean to offend anyone here but we aren't looking for sympathy, we are looking for answer and help. Either to help us with knowledge or to help us out of this situation.

[shadowdancer]

namaste ya'll.  criminal mind....hmmm...i am going to respond honestly and do my best to speak with integrity and love.  please understand first that there are people who are here that ARE trying to help you.  you might not hear what you WANT or immediately recognize AS help.  also, anything i might say, please try not to take offense on a personal level; i may have my ideas, beliefs and opinions, but i do not judge you.  with that said...i will try to be brief upon the issue of rape as it is as touchy as a topic as abortion...please nobody say ANYTHING about abortion!...as i stated earlier in expressing my views of rape on various levels; to play the BLAME GAME, everyone loses.  no one gains anything by creating scapegoats.  "he did such and such thing to me"..."she was asking for it"...."the devil made me do it"....etc.  you see the issue is to take responsibility for OUR part in any drama we may co-create.  how about that phrasology?  co-create.  i think that much of your black/white, good/evil, victim/attacker mentality is based in a deep sense of personal guilt.  guilt and shame will always hinder us from seeing the truth.  please understand this is MY discretionary assessment of your perspective of your situation based upon the limited information provided me.  and thus.....i feel so much fear and paranoia from your post...black magic, evil psychic attackers...preauratized...these are things that i am sure are very very real to you!  i do not question their reality for you.  the question that remains within my heart is "why are you really here?" on this forum.  you say that you are looking for help...but there are people here, in my opinion, that are offering some of the most beautiful, loving, compassionate help that can be shared over digital language symbol systems...[]  finding ways to empower yourself....darknight mentioned something about glory hogs...this is one of the key issues....when we create mental patterns within our energy body, we can create unhealthy coping mechanisms to survive...one of those coping mechanisms is a "me versus the world".  this mechanism or pattern is based within the limbic region of the brain and is commonly called the "reptilian brain".  it helps us in wonderful ways by keeping us alive, especially in life threatening situations.  but when those situations are over(or in the case of darkight and crimind; they seem to repeat in a relative endless monotony of painful and unwelcome circumstances that range from the annoying to the life-threatening) the higher centers of the brain that deal with emotions can be left without a way to reconcile or integrate the experience and turn off the red-alert.  when we experience near continuous levels of stress(life threatening or otherwise)the limbic area pretty much takes over and works to just keep us alive!!! in survival mode.  im really sorry, i will continue this later, i have to go.  much love, namaste

[Dark Knight]

It won't work on Shadowdancer, Criminal, nice try though.

Everything Shadowdancer has said is absolutely true. Tha's not the problem. The problems are the assumptions...believing that everything needed is there without even checking or asking what the individual has already compromised, what energies and resources have already been allocated.

Shadowdancer doesn't mean to do it...I'm noticing there are a lot things being done that Shadowdancer doesn't mean to do.

Personal responsiblity is a multilayered dynamic, not just self focused! There are things we need to open to and receive for that dynamic to take place.

You don't check to see if you're sending that essential piece out that needs to be received, you just assume it's there, and your intentions are good so you must be creating good. Yes, personal boundaries and their interaction are a paradox. You don't check to see if the paradox is taking place, you just assume it's there. Love isn't something that has to be created or nurtured, it just falls from the damn sky like manna. You treat people as "extension of self" instead of "other", which as far as I'm concerned is as bad as Service to Self.

All the teachings of Christ, Buddha, and Quan Yin down the tube and all over a damn assumption.

You don't see the anger passing, and you assume you know why! You assume too damn much. You make no effort to check the consequences of your actions. You make no conscious effort to see the difference in feeling the philosphy and making the philosophy concrete (sorry, didn't mean to drop that anvil on your foot, ergo your foot shouldn't hurt). Start learning what the reflection of "other" really is. And Criminal is right...we are all here because we are either possessed or under severe attack. We're not looking for attention, we're looking to see how to stop it, because the things you assume are there, AREN'T! There is no glory in being unable to tell the difference between life and death.

Counseling won't help. I have no health insurance and I need someone to focus on the person and make the condition go away, not focus on the condition and make the person go away. These damn things have done enough of that.

You are missing something BIG! Start looking for it.

[shadowdancer]

Namaste, []
       i am having to reread your post a few times darknight...i definitely have some questions, and i am also excited to hear such potential insight []  no insult intended.  it is potential to me as of yet because i don't think that i fully understand what you were trying to communicate....your first statement leaves me wondering about the whole of the rest of your post...it is an affirmation, in totality of my view...then you go on to describe that, (from what i gather) it is my arrogance, guised in good intention that is preventing me from truely seeing some essential shared quality of yours and crims situations that could be a magic key??  i use such a rought metaphor because of my lack of understanding of your perception.  a couple of things that i may tentatively address?  the idea that the (P)aradox is simply present in all things...i feel, is an axiom.  A universal Truth, if i may be so...brash?  i feel this paradox is represented beautifully within the mayan word "yacunah"-meaning-"love AND suffering(as occuring TOGETHER); the inescapable poingancy(sp?)of BEING.  for me, this IS the paradox that is ever present.  Love is always there, and is Hate or suffering.  BALANCE, although, is not always ever-present.  if anything is to be cultivated, it is balance.  the scales are constantly flowing back and forth within the tai-chi, yin and yang.  if you choose to see one as being greater or even eclipsing the other, then that is your CHOICE.  being one of the key ideas that i use in applying my own personal perspective.  Love is all around, in a sense, like so much mana [] for me, it is only if you CHOOSe to see it.  and with that relatively harsh statement--the teachings of buddha, jesus and their crew!  i am going to *assume* that you are referring to the idea of compassion...(buddha also said "life is suffering" and jesus ended up nailed to some sticks)....for me, compassion comes in many many forms...sometimes when i am being a jerk to my partner, she will lay the proverbial smack down upon my arrogant butt [B)] and really it is sometimes(NOT always [] )the most compassionate action that anyone could perform in MY service at that time.  a key concept to actually appyling compassion is inner quietude and thus an increased ability to hear one's true inner voice and the needs of others.  a deep sense of humility and gratitude for life.  these things are what one can cultivate to achieve balance in life and successful and LOveing communication with others...they dont come easy for me.  it is a constant work that we do, remaining vigilant to TRUTH.  "what is the truth of my intention?"  buddha also said that sometimes, because of the context of a situation, silence is most compassionate.  but alas, i CHOOSE not to be my own buddha at times...would you be willing to talk more about your ideas of "extension of self" and the "other"?  
 in response to the sentiments expressed within your last paragraph....i feel there is always HOPE.  again, counsellors come in so many different forms...there are counsellors out there who can help you on a mulitplicity of levels, energetic, emotional etc.  making a statemtment of such finality only serves to limit your possiblities for healing.  health insurance is a terrible state of affairs here in the us...and i do understand the cost of help...but i also know that magic can happen and if you imagine within your heart, an image of that person who can help you to unlock your ability to heal yourself, to claim your own power! they will be there for you...it is not uncommon for people in that field to do work pro-bono and many of the younger generation like the idea of work trade.  there are endless possiblities!

crim, i didnt want to leave my last post hangin...i used the word "unheathy" in that post and i didnt want you to think that i have placed any kind of moralistic judgement upon you in using the word.  i use such a term to describe patterns...that, as my girlfriend would say, have outlived their usefullness.  are you happy with the results of your actions?  its a simple question but powerful.  in order for the limbic region to relax and let the higher centers of the brain funtion in a dominant role, we need to know we are "safe".  to my experience, counsellors are really good at helping us find this space.  this is where healing and the magic of our ability to heal ourselves can take place.

                                           much love

[Dark Knight]

Oh good grief, I knew this would eventually happen.

All right, all right, give me a few days to formulate this. It's like asking me, "Can you teach me math?" Well yes I can, first I'll teach you how to count in order, then to add, subtract, multiply, divide, negative numbers....we'll stop somewhere at linear regression I'll be too tired by then.

Let me organize something to post (probably the beginings of my book).

[Metal Ice]

Dark knight,

I do not see you as negative because you are having  a psychic attack.
You will eventually get free of it but first get free of people like Arakarus who seem to spout words from  a cult & from whom I get the feeling that you are indeed  a psy vamp. Not the first time that happened here. You purposely try to anger people. You see, I just got finished ending  a psy vamps attacks on me so I know.
Dark Knight will overcome her problem, will you?

[Metal Ice]

Arakaras is a Psychic Vampire

[shadowdancer]

[:O] [!] [] [V]  not cool.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

I just want to say I'm not here to argue with anyone. We all have our perspective. maybe one would enjoy being attacked by someone or thing but personally I don't and my perspective of attacks they SUCK. But that is my perspectgive of attacks. Now tell me attacks don't exist and I will tell you my reality of attacks, whether the information I recieved from my attacker might be Bull what I say isn't. As for a counsel or meds. don't even go there I was on medicine. I also am close to a degree in psychology and criminal justice you guessed that's how i got my name. Just because my perception doesn''t match pther's here doesn't mean my perception is wrong. You will never believe my perception until you experience my perception. Many people channel and talk to other spirits are there perceptions wrong. Then why can't my attacker talk to me telepathically and threaten me? Does anyone here ever experienced telepathy? If not what is your bases for labeling or telling me what the problem is?
You don't believe in telepathy Look up Alice Bailey's Telepathy and the Etheric vehicle matter of fact look through this site I probably listed it. It's written in full on a website. from what I read that's where yuo chakras are corded with someone else. One is the troat where I seen my attacker put his hand to.
I understand that some of the problem here is that the ones here having attacks are a little more knowledgably atleast about being attacked and it threatens the egos of other's here. WE ARE NOT HERE TO ATTACK YOUR EGOS. We are looking to people with wisdom and understand that have the knowledge to help us.
I admire the fact that you have not been attacked, I can say i envy you because in a sense that would be saying that i would want you to exprience it and I don't want anyone to have to experinece it. I'm very greatful that you haven't but greatful is what you should be.
here you have the chance to gain knowledge you wouldn't have unless you are attacked. If you learn now and ever come across a time you are attacked then you will know how to overcome it and not at the expense us people here are. I don't mean just money as an expense.
You don't know what's like to have your world turned upisde down on you. It's not what we are creating. What ever we try to create it is being torn down in the process of creating it.
I want to say I'm not sending this out to anyone specifically. I realize that it's hard to understand what we are going through because you haven't experienced it. That's the main point of everything.
How many of you can project your consciousness somewhere else? Almost like remote veiwing. Until you understand, then you won't understand our situation. Why do you think people learn shields? Or have wards to protect them. What do you think psi balls are for? Psychic weapons?
Pick up a psychic self-defense book once and read it. Not everything is told in these book like the experiences, the ones we are sharing with you. Do yourself a favor and your family.

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    please forgive me...i really feel the need to clear the air of a few misconceptions.  crimind, i know that you stated within your post that it was to no one in particular and i do understand.  but for all intents and purposes, i am going to respond to your post AS IF you had been addressing me, although i know you were not singling me out. []  first off, i feel there are some really strong misconceptions and assumptions that have been repeating themselves in regards to my perception of you and yours.  i will do my best to communicate these things more clearly.  to begin, i have never stated nor implied the idea of enjoying an attack of some sort...although it is an interesting perspective...one help by purveyors of a masochistic view of things.  pain=pleasure and all that jazz.  perhaps the phrase "Freudian Slip"? applies here?  to continue...i also never stated nor implied that attacks do not exist.  violence of all sorts is i feel a part of nominal reality.  and i certainly did not question how real your attacks were to you.  i was, and continue to look at things from a different perspective.  on we go....i have mentioned counselling quite a few times and referred to it as a potent healing process.  especially for those who have been through the process of psychic attack.  i have not once mentioned medication.  i DO NOT agree with the whole of the basis of western allopathic medicine.  it reeks of corruption, greed and cruelty and the pharmacuetical industry is a prime example of these twisted virtues.  it would be extraordinarily unlikey that i would even think of suggesting that someone take pharms to achieve any kind of balance.  one two, here we go!  i also never labeled anyone.  in this context, labels aren't really useful.  they tend to dehumanize when human understanding is needed most.  this is the third time someone has mentioned that someone has been trying to label them in conjunction with counselling....again, maybe you are projecting you own hidden predjudices onto others??  thank you for not being here to solely attack my ego []  you have said that you are here looking for people who have wisdom and understanding to share....again, i say, is it possible that that wisdom, compassion and understanding is present...maybe it is not immediately recognizable as such??  all that glitters is certainly not gold.......lastly...alice bailey...i have read her book on psychic defense...it has some nifty anecdotes in it, but not much of practical use.  other phenomena you mention...telepathy, psychic weapons and whatnot....so what??  not really a big deal.  look at the quote again at the end of my posts....think about it....ps....i do understand. []

[X]

Well anyways... I am happy to say that I have resolved this problem.
Thank you everybody and no offense shadowdancer but, I completly disagree with you approach on this. If you were to submit to these things, they WIL NOT stop persecuting you. ( Hell knows I wouldn't)
But the best thing to do is fight them back.
And Darknight you're gonna get through this baby, just don't give in.

[CRIMINALMIND63]

Shadow, it appears that whatis said here you take personally. That is why I said I wasn't sending it out to anyone or should I say I'm not saying names. If you have been here for awhile and have read other post you will understand about the label of names. Many people have come here and gone since the last year I have been coming here, although it's been awhile since I been here. I could give yuo a name of someone that was here and labeled as having a mental problem. If someone wants to think I have one well go ahead but I'm not I aready tried to say I had a problem was willing it to be my problem just to get rid of my attacker but that didn't work either. I didn't say you said for me to take medication. I was on medication. If yuo read anything on auras you will know that psychotic medication will eventually destroy your aura. As a matter of fact I did have a reiki session done on me. One of the person's there knew I was beening attacked, knew I was taking meds at one time because of my aura and seen my attacker had a dagger in my chest which I felt a sharp pain at the time. I have been to two other people that know this person that is attacking me. In no way have they even tried to deny he was attacking me. I had one person online see a cord going from me to this person.
Does anyone here know anything about alchemy. I know what is believed is that you turn other metal into gold. I don't believe that's what alchemy really is. It's the use of atoms. Everything is energy but it's also in the form of chemicals or molecules. I belong to a group and one person said they was able to bring into the aura a mild form of pain killer. This would be alchemy. This example here is used for a positive reason. When being attacked alchemy can be used to harm someone.
Again Shadow please don't take my words personal. I'm here to teach not just to learn. It's good that you think positive about the strength of your mind. I always knew the mind was a powerful think and i have proved that to myself before.
Instead of arguing I would rather have a conversation leading to a solution to a problem then on people's philosophy. Philosophy is just a run around on who is right and who is wrong. What isn't proving today maybe proving tomorrow.

[shadowdancer]

namaste ya'll! [8D]
            i wanted to clear up two things from my last post.  (do i have anything better to do? [] )  first is that i actually read a book on psychic defense by dion fortune so the commments attributed to alice bailey should go to dion.  although i do know a bit about bailey and am not too impressed. []  also, i said that i did understand in my last comment.  i do.  literally.  i really am reluctant to speak about my experiences with psychic attack.  why?  because especially in a context such as this, things can just get too sketchy...assumptions, misunderstanding...a bunch of poo.  in short i was briefly(a few months)the "captive"(physically) of a cult.  its not so important that i experienced or should experience some horrible and similar experience so that i can "know your pain".  but how i can to start on a path to healing.  for me, that is the most important thing.  and i simply find that those who express distress because of the situations that they find painful, seem to be really close-minded in hearing the "wisdoms" shared with them about healing.  i have seen some very amazing, crazy and down right frightening stuff...magickal battles, zombies, mind control...its just a bunch of crap.  relative to our humanity and how we can be more whole, emotionally aware and agile humans.  love is life.  

[Dark Knight]

Glad you're doing better X...

Oh God, I am glad I read that last post. Damn it, you should have told us you were a former member of a cult, Shadowdancer! Jesus.

No, I am not going to poo poo your experience, I will not think badly of you for being lead astray (happened to all of us in some form), BUT I WILL HIT YOU HARD WITH MY CAVE MAN SIZE BUDDHIST CLUB WHEN I CONTINUE TO SAY, YOU ARE MISSING SOMETHING HUGE...MILKY WAY GALAXY SIZE HUGE!

Cults are as bad as these Negs after the rest of us, they screw around with your personal boundaries and create an alternate frame of mind where it's possible for the grass to be blue and the sky green. Only "self" exists (usually the cult alpha dog) and not "other." Other is just an extension of self and everything the self is, does, and thinks. Other is not seen as another self with it's own individual boundaries, thoughts, feelings, problems, and series of healthy compromises to balance valuable life issues and priorities.

If I may use my club to bash whatever programming you are currently unprogramming yourself from...you are not the poster child of all negative attacks, psychic or otherwise. Each one is different in varying levels of horror and intensity. Each attacker is different in willing to just give you up and move on, or holds a grudge and is willing to destroy you to the point of withstanding painful, unpleasant things like Holy Water, Incense, prayers, positive thoughts, all because they hate you that much and want to ruin you any way they can (like mine are). Shadowdancer, you're acting like a Doctor that diagnoses every illness as a cold, regardless of whether the person has cancer or a paper cut. No, you are having to repeat things and clarify you're intents because you are applying yourself with the right truths under the wrong conditions. And you are treating everyone here under the conditions of the boundaries you are operating in, without asking us what boundaries we have to work in, what we have had to compromise, what energies we have available, and how we are being affected (and with all due respect, Dion Fortune's book...last I heard...was written at the turn of the damn century. There have been updates, namely Robert Bruce's book).

I think I KNOW EXACTLY where you are. You've just rebuilt your identity and mastered the lesson of "self" now you need to master "other" and you have most definitely not mastered "other." We are not deliberately cutting ourselves off from each other or not seeing the passion of life. WE ARE ALL DAMN PASSIONATE, that's why were so upset. I used to read Shakespeare, Classical Mythology (British, Egyptian, Norse, and of course, Greek), Science, History, I loved life and people and was passionate about it all. I felt deeply connected to everything. Then they showed up, and got increasingly stronger with each passing year. Slowly my energy senses were being shut off, sometimes completely turned off. You need your energy to sense things the same way you need your nerve endings to feel and differentiate between soft, hard, hot, cold. It enables you to process information AND INTERACT WITH REALITY. When someone is screwing around with your energy to not only cut yourself off from the working reality we all function in, but to create an alternate negative reality, you can become brainwashed into thinking anything negativce is healthy.

No man is an island. My first martial arts sensei always said, there will always be someone better than you, stronger than you, faster than you, smarter, and even if you are the best, the best have bad days. We need each other, because that's how strong this damn evil is. Everytime we're told "We're not working hard enough, we have bad attitudes, we're not taking responsibility...etc" we think soemtimes that we're crazy. Look everyone else has the freedom to do X,Y,Z, it's our fault we not creating it not some unseen force. So what happens...the minute we blame ourselves we stop reaching out to each other. We become everything this evil need us to be to take advantage of us and manipulate our perceptions of reality...isolated, alone, weak (you know, the way a cult manipulates you by isolating you from your family, friends, people that might question the belief structure of the self in charge and possible bring the whole structure down? They keep you all to themselves to insert whatever programming they want, make you believe whatever they want.). Like what they did to me...bring in a mutt, asked what is it. You respond, it's a dog. They say, not it's a cat. You know it's not a cat and you fight back. Then they work on you some more. Slowly as your isolated, taken out of reality and the support of people who care about you, your senses are manipulateed. Slowly you're weakening...you know the damn thing is not a cat...but you can't remember why anymore, so it becomes harder to make an argument, challenge and question. Finally, you're so broken, you concede, fine it's a cat. Then they say, no, it's not a cat, it's a duck. You have some sense of what they are doing to you, but you can't remember why you were so important to defend your value and fight back. Can't remember why it was so important to cry. You look at the people who once loved you, who you once loved...can't even remember why it was so important to love or be loveed. Now they have free range to do whatever they want to you.

That's what we're all fighting. That's why we have to stick together on this forum. That's why we have to fight back as a group instead of individuals, because if we fight against this evil, alone, we will all lose. AND THAT'S WHY WE GET ticked WITH PEOPLE THAT CONSTANTLY TELL US WE COULD DO THIS ALONE, UNAIDED! It reinforces the boundaries and logic of the very entities trying to destroy us.

Lesson number one: All lessons have a starting point. Life challenges you to constantly have you evaluate "am I at the correct starting point." I don't want to hear about 5D Quantum anymore. 5D is not you're starting point. Learning other, here, now is your starting point. (not understanding the difference between "extension of self" and "other" is affecting whatever you would learn in 5D Quantum anyway).

Oh, I hear some bellowing. I wonder what kind of punishment is headed my way for making this post. I'm sure the dark little nasties will find some way of showing me their undivided love for me for opening my mouth.

[shadowdancer]

Namaste,
    hey ya'll.  i dont really know where to begin...nearly every statement made, darkight, i have a slightly different view.  and i guess that is the point.  i didnt want to bring up my experience because it is different from yours.  yes, there are parallels and through those we can learn those archetypal lessons about self and other...and i dont really resonate with ideas of "mastery"...learning never stops....its ok if you feel that i am missing something huge...we are all working toward wholeness.  i have not asked you to tell me what you think i am missing though...and i have not offered this to others.  i felt, initially, because of my experience that i could offer a possibility.  "there might be something over there that could help you".  a suggestion.  that suggestion being one of emphasizing the power of connecting to others, not going it alone.  this was in the context of counselling.  from what i understand, some people felt very uncomfortable with this suggestion and thus intiated debate of the philosophical vantage point leading to differing perceptions of the merit of various routes to healing.  something i realized last night...i have been quite foolish.  i wish both you and crimind the best in all you do.  i send love and light and prayers that your lives are filled with joy and wonder!  thank you again for your love and passion and patience.  with that this is a closed topic for me, although i will take time to listen to you replies if presented.  Namaste and Great Spirit Bless

[Dark Knight]

How long do you think you can continue walking away...

Just because you master something in one degree does not mean the learning ceases on that some topic in higher degrees, lessons just continue to expand.

[Mick]

quote:Originally posted by CRIMINALMIND63

You will never believe my perception until you experience my perception. Many people channel and talk to other spirits are there perceptions wrong. Then why can't my attacker talk to me telepathically and threaten me?

This may be me but it seems that when people here are wanting to describe their accounts of being atacked by negative entities, the account is treated as a presentation of an ideology rather than an experience. Some responses then present an alternate ideology where as the experiencers are more concerned to expand their knowledge of what is actually happening and how they might deal with it. Assuming that psychic attacks are happening then there are at least two players involved and while the victim can be advised to pretend it is not etc as part of a defence it is likely that the other party is continueing to harass the victim for whatever reason.

I think some of the positive attitude methods do help to reduce the effectiveness of attacks but may also be simply shielding viewing/perception of the attacks. Also the person may have been damaged and/or had links placed in order to assist attacks, these also need to be fixed/cleansed in order to move on. There is also as has been mentioned above the memory of attacks which will play a part in weakening the positive attitude and I believe will undo 'repairs' if not managed. So I think a balance of solutions is needed in order to transition into a more defendable state.
One of the questions of interest that I spend time on is why do people apparently pursue the negative line, the obvious answer is some sort of ego growth and this seems to be a common answer. 'Look what I can do to someone else'. But we also believe that we see functional reasons in that there is a need for some discarnate entities to secure links to the physical and will simply employ any number of methods to do so. As a recent member I have obviously missed earlier discussions where I am sure all this stuff has been aired. But as I said at the beginning I think people who are experiencing this sort of interaction need the space to be able to discuss and receive feedback in order to allow them to start building working models from which they can develop perspectives and positive methods to deal with it.

I will say that after some period of time in this arena I also still find it useful to do the occasional sanity check and revisit held beliefs as we do seem to operate in a very fluid medium which provides all things to all people. Discussion forums provide a useful place for such testing.

Again apologies if tramping over old ground