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majour ka

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Please help to save the future of genuine mediumship in the UK

Some of you will be aware that a law change next April will result in mediums being prosecuted.
The government have responded to a petition that was created this year to change "the Fraudulent Mediums Act1951". This act will be repealed from April 2008.

Whilst we agree that those who are fraudulent should be prosecuted, we feel that these changes should only go through after extensive consultation with all spiritual organisations. We need to work together to create unified code of conduct. The danger of doing nothing will leave us powerless to operate as we have the potential of taking years to unwind.

For us TO HAVE A VOICE we need as many people to sign the petition as possible.
The dead line for this is 6th of February 2008. Please forward this on to you friends and colleagues.
Click the link below to sign the petition.
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Clairvoyants

For details about the law change please go here:
Http://www.essexspiriteguide.co.uk/article.aspx?a=451&p=39

Our Petition Details.
Consider the discriminatory implications of singling out the spiritualist religion for the inclusion within the Consumer Protection Regulations and not other religions. Any changes to the Fraudulent Mediums Act should only be made after extensive consultations with all main spiritualist organisations.
Whilst we agree that those who are deliberately fraudulent should be prosecuted it should be remembered that, other than the Church of England, Spiritualism is the only other legally recognised religion in this country. The others are only tolerated. The Religious Discriminations Act states that all religions should be treated equally. If Spiritualism    is to be included within these regulations so should other religions.

Hope you sign the petition, Merry Christmas and a very happy new year! MK
Ps I'm just interested in how many people feel like signing. So if you do it, it  would be cool if you post that you did, thanks and regards M.

SnakeDoctor

personally...i don't see anything wrong with being a false medium...it gives hope to people, even false hope is better than none at all.

Doringo

This is quite bizarre...I don't quite understand why they'd make a law against mediumship. I mean, to each their own, right? It's not like they're killing anyone.
All men are equal in death.

majour ka

Quote from: SnakeDoctor on December 29, 2007, 08:05:41
personally...i don't see anything wrong with being a false medium...it gives hope to people, even false hope is better than none at all.

ouch!! snakey! i agree with giving people hope! but I'm guessing you don't really understand what a medium does. Fake mediums are taking money from people when they are at their most venerable IE bereaved from the loss of a loved one in the false promise that they can give them personal evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that their loved one has survived the death experience.

Most genuine mediums don't charge a great deal and some nothing at all.

The reason they want to protect the public from fraud is obvious, but the rules must be set out in a way that allowes the real people to work freely.

Neil Templar

kinda makes me think of the old witchhunting days,the folk in charge given the freedom to quench any spiritual growth...

i agree that false mediums should be sorted out,but then,who's to say that one is false and the other not?
are mediums going to have to take tests to prove they have abilities?and then have a medium's license?

LittleJoe


Silver Incubus

Quote from: SnakeDoctor on December 29, 2007, 08:05:41
personally...i don't see anything wrong with being a false medium...it gives hope to people, even false hope is better than none at all.

All mediums are just cold readers, manipulators and covert hypnotists. LYING TO SOMEONE ABOUT TALKING TO THERE BELOVED DEAD IS AN ABOMINATION.

If you have ever seen Derren Brown's Messiah, then maybe you'd understand how someone with techniques can convince anyone of almost anything.

Gurus do the same thing. They get you all to meditated(putting you into a suggestible state) and then filling your mind with useless garbage and then you keep coming back because you feel enlighted when in fact you have just been carefully manipulated, probably because you're very gullible and naive.

If I wanted to, I could become a guru or medium, I certainly know enough about the occult and new age mysticism to convince anyone of my credibility. Then I'd just hypnotize them or do some guided meditation(same thing) and subliminally tell them that they want to support me and give me(the source of their enlightenment) all focus and money. I can even change believes.

Honestly I would never do that, because I have changed myself to be a positive and pragmatic person, but that doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who would use these things against you.   

So in conclusion, as it is a fallacy to claim super powers, I support the bill to get rid of these horrible leeches of society who make their living exploiting people and their instilled beliefs for their livelihood.
"Life is an Illusion that is painfully real" - me

CFTraveler

Did the original post say Feb. 08?

majour ka

Quote from: Silver Incubus on March 16, 2008, 17:05:14
All mediums are just cold readers, manipulators and covert hypnotists. LYING TO SOMEONE ABOUT TALKING TO THERE BELOVED DEAD IS AN ABOMINATION.

If you have ever seen Derren Brown's Messiah, then maybe you'd understand how someone with techniques can convince anyone of almost anything.

Gurus do the same thing. They get you all to meditated(putting you into a suggestible state) and then filling your mind with useless garbage and then you keep coming back because you feel enlighted when in fact you have just been carefully manipulated, probably because you're very gullible and naive.

If I wanted to, I could become a guru or medium, I certainly know enough about the occult and new age mysticism to convince anyone of my credibility. Then I'd just hypnotize them or do some guided meditation(same thing) and subliminally tell them that they want to support me and give me(the source of their enlightenment) all focus and money. I can even change believes.

Honestly I would never do that, because I have changed myself to be a positive and pragmatic person, but that doesn't mean that there aren't people out there who would use these things against you.   

So in conclusion, as it is a fallacy to claim super powers, I support the bill to get rid of these horrible leeches of society who make their living exploiting people and their instilled beliefs for their livelihood.