The simple solution is to fire the maid, and get another. You wife will vehemently disagree, but what choice do you have? She is in your house, and has free access to your things. From a practical standpoint there isn't much you can do under these situations.
Just cleansing your house could take awhile. She has had the opportunity to acquire many personal things of you and your wife. I would seek local help in this matter.
I would guess your wife will eventually leave you. Most likely for "having improper realtionship" with the maid, even if you didn't. I'm sure if you fire her, that will be the first thing she claims.
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Originally posted by Rastus
She has had the opportunity to acquire many personal things of you and your wife.
Do you mean physical stuffs? Yeah, I lost two TVs because she handed them to a fake repairman.
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Originally posted by Rastus
I would guess your wife will eventually leave you. Most likely for "having improper realtionship" with the maid, even if you didn't.
Hahahahaha........man I can't stop laughing. I would rather keep a pet for that purpose. Besides, she is so repulsive that you would not want to get closer to her than 10 meters square. I think one of the reasons my wife kept her is because she felt safe with her in the house compared to other women.
Oh, I forgot to mentioned. My maid was married 6 times and she is only 36 years old. Some husbands divorced her, some left her and some died. You can see she is a "curse" to man.
Thanks for the reply. I hadn't laugh today.
Kick your maid out just do it don´t reason whit your wife or try to explain
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Originally posted by runlola
Before you kick her out, get some of her hair...
just in case you need to go to the local psychic later
..I am sure she has some of yours....
Oh yah, I am sure she collects all the hair she possibly could. That is why I am careful not to leave my nails around. I don't cut my nails at home.
I am sure the only two things she needs is blood and nail. But she don't seems to need everything to do harm.
The point is that I am not someone who would accuse anyone without solid evidence, let alone punish the person. I need at least someone to confirm this form of psychic attack. Someone who has similar experience or perhaps a psychic.
I read Bruce's Psychic Self Defense and was shocked to find out so many forms of psychic attacks that normally others would not relate as psychic issues.
Twice she passed by my room and pause, pretending she forgot something but seems to be attracting some attention or peep at what I am doing. She loves attention because I think she loves energy. Energy goes where the thought flows.
I am really curious what she is up to. My last resort is to sort the help of local shaman. But before I do that, I would ask my fellow energies workers to help. But some of them hesitate to help in this case fearing that anything linked to ancestor issue might back fire at them.
I would check her room and personal belongings one day and see what she got with her.
talk to her...tell her to stop...tell her that she will gain nothing...maybe she has no ideea about what she's doing...
she could be there to punish you (karma), so you should go to someone that looks in karma.
anyway this is funny...sorry
Can you not sever or remove any attachments placed on your wife?
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Originally posted by Risu no Kairu
Can you not sever or remove any attachments placed on your wife?
Hi Risu, are you suggesting that there is an attachment on my wife. I am not sure if there is any attachment.
Thanks.
I feel so bad for you cprince. By your every description, you are completely in her power, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. She has befriended your wife, and now put her under her power too.
The only step left fer her to take is to kill you while you sleep, which she is probably plotting to do with your wife at this very minute, while you sit at the computer typing away. Then, after some time has passed, she can 'do away' with your wife, and everything that was yours will then be hers.
Then she will no doubt move her entire village to your country, where she can begin world conquest.
I don't know. I don't know anything about psychic attacks other than what I've read.
A lot of the ones with mind controling elements usually have some sort of energy link or attachment or some sort of connection.
If she's going after you with tenticles and stuff, I don't see why she wouldn't put them in your friends and familiy.
You said yourself she's establshing a connection.
Is Bruce active in this forum. Why did he just left all of us here to speculate on each other's encounters.
How should we add-value to this forum? By inviting real experts or even psychic to help answer our question.
Otherwise we end up helping each other to be paranoid and the next forum we join is psychiatric help group.
Maybe this forum will accumulate enough case-studies for his second edition.
You have three choices;
1) Do nothing.
2) Change the situation.
3) Accept the situation.
So far I see you do nothing. Are you under her power or not? If not, change the situation - or learn to live with your new situation. Why the need for paranoia and psychiatric self-help group? Quit expending all your energy on whining, criticizing and blaming. Robert Bruce cannot help you. Your wife cannot help you. I cannot help you.
You MUST help yourself. YOU are in charge of your life. Even if you decide to give away your power, that is your choice. Divinity has given you a golden opportunity to take control of yourself and your life, to decide that you are worthy. Exercise your rights. Choose to take back your self and your life. Step up.
But whatever you do, I advise you do so with care and concern. Try to understand all views concerned. Then, new solutions may appear of themselves. Always, do what you want - but do it with love and as much awareness as you can muster.
i posted here...
"she could be there to punish you (karma), so you should go to someone that looks in karma."
i'm sorry for this, this affirmation it's not corect.
anyway, i still consided that it would be a good ideea to speak with her. just try it...or not...
accepting it's not the best ideea, if there is a solution you will find it...
Let us know what happens cprince. It would be a shame to start an interesting thread like this and then we never learn what comes of it. Kind of sucks though, vampiric maid in your house...
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Originally posted by narfellus
Let us know what happens cprince. It would be a shame to start an interesting thread like this and then we never learn what comes of it. Kind of sucks though, vampiric maid in your house...
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Originally posted by narfellus
Let us know what happens cprince. It would be a shame to start an interesting thread like this and then we never learn what comes of it. Kind of sucks though, vampiric maid in your house...
Well, no help is offered by this group. But other forums were helpful.
Few days ago, I typed an email outside my maid's room so that others could read the energy off the mail. Below were some of the feedbacks:
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Choon
As you write this i got the visuals of what you describe.
I see a large entity leaving her room and attaching itself on to you.
That is the smell, and the difficulty - the 'friends' that are around
her. You need to strengthen your own energy field, energetically,
physically and emotionally as others have described. Do a major
cleansing of your house, focusing on her room. Are you familiar with
sage, crystals or something similar?
And of course, the hard part - she has been with you for a while, so why is this gaining strength now? What in you is attracting this, or why do you have an opening for this specifically now. Have you been ill, under great unusual stress, any emotional issues come up lately? Something out of the ordinary that weakened your own shields?
just a thought
rachel
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Ok.
I'm getting something else. It says before I understand I will hear
it/her/him/whatever.
It's hard to understand, like it's 'wobbly' or something. Like a
staticky TV channel. This is not what you have been feeling and are
afraid of. It is something else. A few have been aware of ..
renegade? Seems few have been aware of this, you are among a few.
She (your maid) is aware of it, she likes it - this is nothing whe
wants to give up. It is not a ghost/spirit/entity type thing.
"Knife in back woman" is what she is being called. I'll assume this
means she is all for her and will not worry about others serving her
consequence (unless she really stabbed someone with a knife).
She is afraid to be caught. Alot of lies and afraid to be caught.
She is untrusting of men. It almost seems as if she has made a
living bubble of sorts. As if this bubble will protect her. I think
this bubble like thing is what you feel.
There is a female energy there. Seems you haven't asked her directly
for help. (LOL!)
One moment...
(I wonder what she'd say (the maid), if you asked her if she got
caught? LOL!)
From the maid, it felt very warm, almost hot. And my eyes are
burning as if there is a strong smell of onions or cleaning supplies,
or heavey smoke.
Ok - I have to go get the bus and get the kids home. I will do this
again this evening. It may take a few times for you to feel more at
ease. I've gotten a little info, a little isight on her...Will get
back to you - ready to lightening and storm now.
Angela
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--- In mystical_wonders@yahoogroups.com, Celestial Prince
<psychicweirdz@y...> wrote:
> Angela, what is this post all about?
>
> Are you communicating with the spirits?
>
> The sentence : "Help him be aware of her real trial." makes sense.
>
> I think I need to know exact what her problem is. What is her
agenda. And what does she want from us. Maybe I can accomodate and
facilitate what is necessary. Let fairness dictates.
***I thought it ment that she had some problems of her own to deal
with, that you needed to be aware of those troubles. (But that's why
I leave these words un edited. It may hold a different meaning for
you than for me. Sometimes I have no idea what they are talking
about but the person it's adressed to has no problem following along.)
> "He is mad and she is in a good place and has no intentions of
> giving it up."
>
> Yes I am mad, so is everyone. Those who perceive in light knows
others are mad and these people in turn think he is mad. The problem
with me is that I am sensitive to energy. He calls me mad because he
thinks I am overacting or over-sensitive. (About three nights ago,
just when I log-off from the net, someone sent me some shielding
energy. Felt like steel energy that covers my back. I need to say
thanks).
***There is still a negative one there (I'll have to again wait till
I have alone time to deal with it) but there is also something there
that won't allow the other back in. That may have been what you felt
come through.
> "(It seems that making her leave won't make all of the problems go
away.)"
>
> Yes, it would not make HER problem go away. But it makes mine
vanishes. That is all I concern. I am not here to take care of
someone's past or ancestor problem.
***I believe it ment that if she left, you would still have problems.
> "Attention! Fool. 0 Fool. Help having what? Beyond your F
help. I am a gael above you. Have you a more varied tallent? Can't
you give more Angela? Believe Gabby and the others here, don't
bother fooling around in my full house."
>
> Now I'm confused. Which spirit is this. The previous occupant
practices magic in this house. She has passed away. She is the
mother-in-law of my wife's uncle. Since she passed away, the house
was empty for few years before he sold it to us.
***That '0' up there, I should have spelled it out, it is not the
letter o, it is a number zero. I have no idea what that means, do
you?
This was one of the 2 negative energies there. It's the one that is
no longer there now. I got rid of it at this same time. I just
typed a part of what was going on while it was happening.
> Now, the neighbor on my right is also weird. They pray to the tree
and burn paper at certain nights and pour water with flower inside
after offering, on the doorsteps of their neighbor including mine.
An single elderly woman who lives across me, and has been living
there for twenty over years often said that this neighbor tries to
hex or use black magic on her. This elderly lady is a staunch
Christain and possibly a psychic because I often see strangers coming
in and out of her house for some consultation.
***What part of the world do you live in?
> Angela, don't drain yourself out. But I am sure you wouldn't let
it intimidate you. You got to be more fierce and aggressive than him.
***The one that I delt with friday is gone from your home. There is
another there that needs to take a hike, and 8 more that are pretty
much good to have around. Unfortunatley I forgot to see if all of
them 'stayed' there or were just there at the time I looked. I'll
check next time.
> p/s: just came back from a 100 miles drive up and down mountains,
very tired. But 5 minutes after stepping into my own house, the
tingling sensations are all over my back. I think they are hungry
after 2 days. Do you think it's good idea to call in the venom
energy and let them feed off? The energy in the house is clearer. I
think she is aware of my intention of sending her away so she might
be slowing down what she is doing.
***I'm sorry, I don't know what venom energy is. I don't think I'd
try feeding anything other than posative things that you want to
stay.
Angela
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Currently, there is no conclusion. Someone tries to contact the negs and attempt to remove it. Well, the smell is gone. But the maid became even more weird.
It is quite clear that the problem is actually hers and she is seeking refuge in my house. By remaining in my house, she is affecting the good energies there. It is also very clear that she tries to attach a psychic cord on us, to make us dependant on her.
I still have no clue what to do next.
Thanks for your concern. Any help?
Greetings Cprince,
I am new to the forum and wish to address your situation. I go by the name of Black Shamaness. My lineage includes that of indian, haitian, jamaican, french and greek. I am a considered by societies depiction as that of a black woman because i appear as such...but the color of my skin does not define me. I am from the country of Panama.
I understand that via the internet that you could or probably encounter all kinds of quacks. I am a female shamaness. I come to you as a concerned human being for your welfare. I do not know you, but my heart goes out to you as if you were a brother.
I could offer you assistance as you seek,but i must be careful. You have disclosed your problem here hoping for a sincere response or at least someone who knows what the he** they are talking about. I will offer you my insight and you can do as you will with the information.
You will not...and i am bold enough to repeat, that you will not get a soul that would want to cross this woman on the net. You will get some that will reveal some information to you as myself and others , but even so they too must be careful regarding assisting you.As this woman would dig into them as she is doing to you and your lloved one.
This maid is dangerous and you are afraid of her, yes you are. She now has a psychic link to your wife as well as yourself. Even if you were to remove her from your house she could still work her magic anyways. She is dark and you will get many who will decline helping you based on her power.
Take what you want from this dialogue. You are in grave danger here. She doesnt need your hair to entrap you. Your semen from your underwear or your wife's sexual fluid as well from underwears or a sheet is just as potent.
Her expertise in Elemental magic is frightening as she has them working alongside of her.
I am a busy person, but will ask for you to reveal the truth behind this situation as you are hiding much more.
Forgive me for my bluntness and boldness. I dont play games. I am not insinuating that you are doing so,but their is much more to this.
Black Shamaness
Hi Black Shamaness,
Thank you so much. I am glad that finally I get help from this group.
Yes, I can feel the energy coming from your post.
I don't put much importance on the maid. Yes she might be dangerous, practicing elemental magic, but I am not afraid of her.
I don't think I hold on to any information, at least not deliberately. Maybe you can guide me as to what I should tell you. There are just too many.
You are right, it's precedent that many people declined to help me. I don't know why?
Let me try and sum up again on the situation.
Basically, I felt bad energies and weird behavior from the maid. My field was constantly invaded by some neg energies and I get suspicious on the rotten smell that I thought was just the maid's body odour.
The entity was confirmed by some people on other forum and basically a person called Angela has been helping me out. She managed to call in that entity and trapped it. That rotten smell vanished from my house, the air in the house was clearer and I felt lighter and easier subsequently.
But ever since the entity was removed, the maid is in a hurry to leave the house to return home. That prompted the recalling of a friend's advise to never remove the entity from her but to cut the psychic cord which she has been attaching on us. The friend explained that the entity was an inheritance from her parents or ancestor.
Apparently she does not want her own children to inherit that entity and so she left home to become maid with the aim of attaching the entity to another family, ideally a new born baby or even before the baby was born.
Two months ago, I had an overseas trip for a full month and I did not suffer any attack. But I was told on the phone that the maid had to return home because her daughter was quite sick. Could it be that since I was overseas the entity could not follow me and so returned to her family?
That entity is now back to my house as I requested because I do not want to be responsible for removing something inherent to her.
Could you offer your help?
Regards,
Choon
Hi Cprince, unfortuneatly you are right, there are very few people on this group who actually have any real experience.
I have a similar problem, except mine is worse, instead of a maid, the mother of my nephew himself is the perpetrator, not only on her 5 year old son, but my family and her own brothers. She comes from a black magic demon witch family called "dions" in India, they kill or make into puppets all the males and kill them if they don't succeed in making them into their puppets, including their own children and pass the demon "inheritance" into their daughters who get trained from infancy...they are not human any more, they have no human feelings, for this woman her son is nothing more than a toy, dead or alive - you might as well call her a demon in a woman's body.
We had similar experiences with the foul smell. And my nephew is suffering terribly, he has been misdiagnosed with autism, because once we break the spell, he becomes normal again. But they are continually sending demons, or the demons are self replicating and my 5 year old falls into a trance where he can't even remember his own name, sometimes he starts climbing and jumping off from high places without any sense. it's so bad that we can't even send him to school because of this and we are trying to home school him.
If your friend Angela can help from a distance or if she knows someone who can help in NY, it would be much appreciated. Finding authentic advanced pratictioners of the spiritual arts is hard indeed and I understand your frustration, but you sure are lucky that you found someone who can trap the demon.
cprince: The first time I laid my eyes on her, I felt uneasy about this lady. Not because of her "caveman" look but rather felt she is here to settle some psychic issue.
I would have told her right then "My psychic powers tell me you are evil, so you are not hired. Nothing you say can change my mind."
Hi kalratri,
I truly sympathize with your situation. I know the feelings to be tied up in this kind of situation.
In fact I see more similarities following the description of your problem. I believe the maid's family has a lineage of practice witch craft, tracing back to her ancestors. Recalling the past incidence when she losts two of my TVs to a conman, she went back to her village and consulted a sharman to find out who stole the TVs. She told us the sharman said the culprits were kids from the neighborhood whom I already suspected. She also told me that the sharman asked me to be careful because someone plans to harm me. Now I think she is talking about herself.
By the way, it seems strange also that at the age of 36 years, she already married 6 man. That figure could be understated. Where did these men go? Why would or did they divorced, left, or died at an average span of 3 years, assuming she was first married at age 18.
There are variations of the same witch craft practiced throughout the world, especially the third world countries. I believe it could be a variation of the "dions" you mentioned.
I have mentioned your request to Angela on the forum with the attachment of your previous post. I think it is more appropriate if you join the group and request help officially from there.
The address is : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mystical_wonders
I had already introduce your situation to them. All you need is to restate your case and request for help. The right help from the right person should arrive. Angela agreed to helped me because we are both energy workers and she sympathizes with me. I am sure she would help you too.
Remember, if it didn't break you, it strengthen you.
Regards,
Choon
Greetings Cprince,
I will attempt to post this message. I have already failed at two prior posting which were lost in cyberspace somewhere.
I wanted to mention to you or instill in you that you have the power and must empower yourself. Sometimes our own fears can limit us. I want you to understand that you are not defenseless in this situation and that you are capable of protecting your ownself.
I have encountered all types of people on the internet that has come up with stories such as yours which turns out to be bogus. But, i have also dealt with people who are in serious trouble as well. I dont claim to know it all nor possess great abilities as well. I am very humble. I want to cover some issues with you if you don't mind.
I truly believe that the maid is a witch and not a nice one at that, but she is not the sole problem. Cprince, i believe that you had problems even before this maid came around. I feel that you have either dabbled in the occult, or perform some ritual without prior knowledge or experienced and have always been attacked even before the maid had hit your doorsteps.
I am emotionally going thorugh some issues with my family and i am unable to give you 100% of my aid. I cannot leave myself open to any attacks. The maid is powerful in her own right and she was placed in your life based on "dark energy follows dark energy". I can sit here on this computer and put full blame on this mysterious, dark, vengeful
maid, but i won't.
Now, you are getting all of this messages from people that the maid may have an ancestral link. If this woman is from the mountains she knows magic very well. She would know how to conjure, hold energy and release it as well. Invocation to her is like child's play. At times we get people that come into our lives that cause havoc. She is no exception, but you are overlooking one strong point Cprince which is yourself.
I will suggest to you and i truly wish you would listen to me as i speak to you today...please give yourself a cleansing and your home. You are going through attacks where you and an opening is present in your home. So when Angela banishes one entity you feel safe for a day to feel something else tomorrow. Now, when she have a spirit on her butt then she would know because this is very dangerous. She needs to help you Cprince first.
I humbly suggest to you to cleanse yourself and aura and also your home. Please start their. I don't know if you had dabbled in the occult, but i know something took place with you that is why i had felt that you were not being honest here on the forum.
Never let anyone or anything steal your joy. Several of the members has already told you not to just roll over and die, but to reclaim whats rightfully yours. You cannot go through the rest of your life running to this and that person to remedy your situation. Their is a misconception that the average man cant defend oneself spiritually and that is not so.
<<You are right, it's precedent that many people declined to help me. I don't know why?>> Because the maid's malicious energy is involved, her elementals, and your energy as well. To blindly jump into this risks attacks, illness and havoc in ones life.
<<Basically, I felt bad energies and weird behavior from the maid. My field was constantly invaded by some neg energies and I get suspicious on the rotten smell that I thought was just the maid's body odour.>>
Such an odor is an indication of an malicious dark spirit/energy.
<<That entity is now back to my house as I requested because I do not want to be responsible for removing something inherent to her.
Could you offer your help?>>
I am sitting here shaking my head in disbelief here. With all respect are you brain dead? These people that give you this advice as to not sever the connection is wrong. They are so wrong that it saddens me that a human being could actually suggest for you not to remove that link. I guess that you like spirits on your butt. Dont you know that such negative energy could rob you of your health, mental health and life??? Are you trying to tell me that you invited the entity to have a cup of tea with you till you figure out how to remove the inheritance or lineage connection to the maid???
Am i understanding correctly??? Cprince, i am giving you my insight and that is up to you if you want to take it or leave it.
I am not in the best position right now to shamanize and to help you, but i offer you my insight. Start with yourself first. Also, work toward disconnecting the link between the maid and yourself.
Blessings to you.
Black Shamaness
Dear C
It seems that you have recieved a lot of information and counsel, and I have been reading most of it. I sincerly hope and pray that you are finding a solution to your problem. If however it presists, I have a few practical aspects and points that might be a help.
I have had many experiences with similar problems and live in maids as well, and thanks to God I have always been able to succesfully resolve them. I lived for many many years in India, Nepal as well as Afghanistan and the Mid East, where I was working as a Missionary, and my input would more be along actual behavioral issues that you can adopt to effectuate a change.
As I said, if you are having succes all is well, if not I can give you some very down to earth help.
Regards Mustardseed
Hello again Cprince,
thanks for the contact.
You are probably right about that maid of yours doing her husbands in. They generally kill the men if they don't come under their full control -- they are actually the closest things to feminazis around. They might just kill the men for the heck of it. ANY time they have a fight they might just as well send a demon after you.
In that demoness family I mentioned, the grandmother, the queen demon puppet master (she's near 80 supposedly without one gray hair) her husband is well a puppet so she didn't need to kill him. Her daughter (the mother of my dear sisterdemon-in-law), killed her husband after having 3 sons and 1 daughter. Right after the daughter was born the husband was dead. Then the baby was raised in the grandmother's house, trained and demonized from birth until basically they can't be called human anylonger. She literally felt no pain, never cried. They only have rage, anger and vengeance and these emotions are nourished constantly by the "puppet master" controller demons, the strongest female demon, generally the old hag. They have virtually no feelings that they killed their own brother/son.
They generally have a very condescending attitude towards males and think they should be slaves and if you don't comply you die...that is of course only if the males don't find out what they are dealing with.
Every so often men/women find out exactly what they are and they get burned [;)] LITERALLY!
And people actually demonize the church for the witch trials! It's probably likely that the so called "poor innocent women" were witches and not the good kind.
It's actually scary that europe and America no longer have any anti-black magic laws anymore since it's been relegated to superstition and backwardness.
Greetings Black Shamaness,
Thank you for your reply.
I need to clarify some misunderstanding regarding severing the connection. My friend did asked me to cut the psychic cord that she attaches to us, but told us not to disconnect her with the neg because the neg is attached to her by karmic/inheritance link.
Yes, the maid is very evil. She is putting on a mask all day. She took pleasure in bring out the fear and anxiety in me. She don't like peace.
Now the next issue is very important. You said that I could have either dabbled in the occult, or perform some ritual without prior knowledge or experienced and have always been attacked even before the maid had hit your doorsteps. Well, that, I don't think so. Except the main stream Tibetan Buddhism and energy works, I not practice any craft. I learn but never believe in do it because intuitively I knew these are wrong.
However I need to disclose one information. I suffered a serious head injury that needed surgery, and ever since there is a indented scar on my wound because my skull was cut open. Some friends told me that energies could be leaking there that could attract neg attachment. I am not sure if this is related.
Other than this, there could be spells put on me by broken hearted girls before I was married. But none of these worked on me.
What you mentioned is very important because the spiritual agent from Angela also told her that my problem will not go away even if the maid left us. That implies that the maid is only an opportunist and not an originator. So what is the source of everything? Could you help to identify or at least narrow the scope of my contemplation?
Thanks alot.
Regards,
Choon
Dear Mustardseed,
I believe you have been following this post, and you know I am still in desperation. Please offer your advise. I need your ammo, I am running out of fire power.
Regards,
Choon
Hi kalratri,
Angela sent me an email saying that she is willing to help.
Go to the forum, they are willing for you.
Regards,
Choon
Dear Cprince
Ok Well first of all I must make a disclaimer. As I am a Christian these things have worked very well for me but if you are not they might not work for you. Robert Bruce talks about this point in his book and encourages people to use the Christian "way" if they want to but to also consider this path their own if the problem is releived. This is not an attempt to convert you but more along the line of passing on info, and I believe that Roberts points are good and valid.
1.First I would start with Prayer. I would chose a time and setting preferably at another location than home and have a good talk and prayer with your wife, and see if you could agree to fire your maid. Explain your concerns and your opinions in a non threathening / blaming way. In other words Unite. One can chase 1000 but 2 can put 10000 to flight. A united approach is very important.
2.If you have Christian friends who believe in the Power of the Holy Spirit, talk to them and solicit their help. You could have a exorsism after she has left, or even while she is still there, but if she will not let it go you cannot force her to do so.
3. If this is not an option, I would seek to confront the maid, and the entities she in using. Most likely it/they reside in her or in the presence of her, and her things. Jewelry clothes etc. The reason is to expose these entities, and "let them know you know". You could have a "talk" with her, but as you sit down to start your conversation, focus on and talk to the entity, ask questions that it will have to answer, and make it an ultimatum. You should definately take over in the spirit and show an assertive attitude full of faith and resolve. A bothersome spirit as this one is often removed, by removing its "payback" so try to figure out what she is gaining from her attachment the "payback" and attack that issue instead, the supply lines so to speak. In your own life clean up your act if there are things that are not right. If you have resentments bitterness or inappropriate amounts of pride selfishness and ego in your life, go to work on that. This includes any abuse problem or sexual activity that you yourself find troublesome. These attitudes enhance your suceptability and vulnarability to attacks. You should try to figure out why it is affecting you so much!!!!
4.Get stricter with the maid, ban her from certain rooms and make it difficult for her without becoming harsh. She seems to thrive on the power she has over you through fear so show yourself fearless, and let her know you are in charge and have her number. When you talk to her always look her straight in the eyes without hesitation, and try to be the one to control the conversation. Never let her near where you sleep, start to clean your own bedroom and take on a more vigilant attitude so she can see you can do without her.Go through your bedroom and remove anything that has been in her presence, especially ornaments and furniture and pictures.
These are just a few suggestions and observations. I have been part of and performed many exorsisms over the years, especially people tormented by this type of entity, (she is also a victim!!)so we could maybe engage in a remote exorsism if you see the need. This would require some advance notice and quite a bit of PMing or posting back and forth, but I would be willing to do that if you think it would be nessesary.
I hope this is a help
Regards Mustardseed
Dear Mustardseed,
Thanks for the excellent piece of advise.
Every advise is clear except for "Go through your bedroom and remove anything that has been in her presence, especially ornaments and furniture and pictures."
She cleans my bedroom everything and everything in the bedroom is in her presence everday. That's kind of difficult isn't it?
I don't think an exorcisms is necessary. I do not want to remove the entity from her and be tied up with the karmic link. Futhermore she is such unpleasant person. Let her learn her own life lesson.
Once again. Thank you so much and I should call upon you if I need your further assistance.
Best Regards,
Choon
Another interesting information that I forgot to include regarding the smell is that, besides the rotten smell that also resembles a fury dog that has not been showered for weeks, another kind of distinctive smell is that of a genital.
Image what you below smells like when you go camping for a week and hadn't take a shower. That's the smell.
I wanted to include this information because I am getting the smell again right at this moment.
I am sure the smell does not come from me because I just taken shower. Hehehehe.
Pleas cprince there is no karmick link that can be atached to you.Her karma is seperat from you and an energy link is not a KARMA link.
Hi C
Well that would have to be taken in context, as I said:
Never let her near where you sleep, start to clean your own bedroom and take on a more vigilant attitude so she can see you can do without her.Go through your bedroom and remove anything that has been in her presence, especially ornaments and furniture and pictures.
What I am referring to are things she has owned or used, that she has had a chance to bond with and attach to. Not things she has cleaned. A little note. The more you "emphasise" this in your life the more strenght you give it. Scale down, and focus on the power instead of the problem, focus on the solution rather than the view , symptoms signs etc
Regards MS
Hi Cprince,
My brother is having the same problem. Sometimes he smells that awful smell again usually in the bathroom towel that used to be there when the witch wife was living with him and conjuring up demons in the bath tub.
I told him throw out whatever he had with her, burning it would be better.
Good news is, I think my brother lost 1 neg while running for an hour -- it kind of like flew out of him and he felt lighter -- witches are not very athletic you know -- lazy witches have lazy demons. Now if your witch runs the marathon, I'd be worried there!
Bad news is I think his wife and mother in law dearest has sent atleast 2 new ones--distance doesn't seem to make the heart grow fonder.
To Sare: Yes, thanks for the qualification. That attachment cannot be karmic, it must be transferable.
To Mustardseed: That's right, less focus on her. She wants me to think about her all the moment and to cause me fear and anxiety.
To kalratri: You said "Bad news is I think his wife and mother in law dearest has sent atleast 2 new ones--distance doesn't seem to make the heart grow fonder." I was just wondering if negs can across seas and oceans.
I need to inform this group about what happened during the past two days.
Firstly, the maid came into my dream last night. That made me screamed on the bed at 5 a.m., and I slept at 3.30am yesterday.
The scene went like this: I saw her sitting in the kitchen back facing me. I walked toward her and asked her what was she doing sitting in the middle of the kitchen. She did not reply but instead turned her head slowly toward me, her eyes were blank as if in trance and she said "ahhhhhhhhhh......". Followed by leaning her head on my crotch, as if to give me a BJ. That is when I screamed and woke up from my sleep. The scene when she turned her head with the eyes in trance was very scary. It was exactly like the possessed girl in the film exorcist.
The point is to get me sexually arouse with an ejaculation. (Thereby sucking my energy or established a cord with me?) Guys know that wet dream can happened without sexual intercourse in the dream, any sensation on the genital organ could end up in ejaculation.
Not a chance, I do have free will in my dream. I had avoid two possible wet dream this month.
The second thing is that the maid is starting to attack me from the front. In the past, I only felt tingling sensations on my back but since two weeks ago, I observed that her focuses hard on my solar plexus whenever I walked pass her or standing in front of her. In fact, last night I fought off a grabbing sensation with mild pain on my right chest.
The maid is very much aware of my active defense against her with external help, which is why she is increasing the intensity of her attack. Also because she knew she only has two months left in my house.
Just two hours ago when I passed her by along the living room, I felt her intense focus on my solar plexus, but within split second I intuitively switched to state of emptinesses. You should see the shock on her face, and the way she sway her head as if to avoid some deflection.
Please pray for me.
Regards,
Choon
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Dear Cprince,
I wanted to mention a couple things after reading your post to several members.
<<I need to inform this group about what happened during the past two days.
Firstly, the maid came into my dream last night. That made me screamed on the bed at 5 a.m., and I slept at 3.30am yesterday.
The scene went like this: I saw her sitting in the kitchen back facing me. I walked toward her and asked her what was she doing sitting in the middle of the kitchen. She did not reply but instead turned her head slowly toward me, her eyes were blank as if in trance and she said "ahhhhhhhhhh......". Followed by leaning her head on my crotch, as if to give me a BJ. That is when I screamed and woke up from my sleep. The scene when she turned her head with the eyes in trance was very scary. It was exactly like the possessed girl in the film exorcist.
The point is to get me sexually arouse with an ejaculation. (Thereby sucking my energy or established a cord with me?) Guys know that wet dream can happened without sexual intercourse in the dream, any sensation on the genital organ could end up in ejaculation.
Not a chance, I do have free will in my dream. I had avoid two possible wet dream this month.>>
Well...she has shifted her attack within your dream state. This kind of attack is also dangerous because it instills immense fear. You attest to that by disclosing that you screamed. You might want to try this avenue. Imagine that you are a warrior or a kick butt person...one that doesnt take any bullsh**. Create in your mind that personna and a personal weapon of your choice...either a shield, armor, dagger, sword etc. Create in your mind or establish in your mind that you are wearing defensive clothing and project defensive strong energy upon yourself. Keep this projection of yourself until you feel strong and you actually begin to feel no fear or apprehension. If done correctly...you change your energy pattern.
The bitc* maid is reading your energy signature...change it up a bit to confuse the grump. She is going to feel that you have the fierest ally on your side. If you prefer imagine guardian angel Michael infront of you and behind you and you are draped in protective energy.
Change your vibrations because this maid is reading you like a book. She knows your weaknesses and she knows your fears as well.
The next time she attempts to give you an astral attack in a dream-what should happen is this... your physical form would change in your astral state. Your energy pattern should change so drastically and your appearance that if she confronts you ...fear would hit her. You could put mirrors on your shield if you like because spirits do not like mirrors and in the astral state she is coming to you as a spiritual being. Let her see what it is like to stare ugly in the face since everyday you see her ugly butt.
Cprince, being a shamaness of course i know dark magic and that of light. I have practiced chaos magic because through chaos one discovers the light. Most human beings have a dark side...a shadow side that we hide from the rest of the world...i own up to mines. But, that does not mean that i inflict pain on others just because i can.
What you are doing here is not chaos...you are placing a barrier in front of your physical body. Like an actor before a play-he becomes a different person. The clothing, makeup, dress, hair etc alters his appearance. all you do is project a strong image of yourself. She willknow that you are shielded and protected but will have a hard time penetrating it to get to you.
<<The second thing is that the maid is starting to attack me from the front. In the past, I only felt tingling sensations on my back but since two weeks ago, I observed that her focuses hard on my solar plexus whenever I walked pass her or standing in front of her. In fact, last night I fought off a grabbing sensation with mild pain on my right chest.>>
I will tell you that i too get tingling sensations on my back and it is one of the lovingest kindest energies that a person would want. In fact, i have nor never will banish that energy because its their to protect and nuture.
<<Just two hours ago when I passed her by along the living room, I felt her intense focus on my solar plexus, but within split second I intuitively switched to state of emptinesses. You should see the shock on her face, and the way she sway her head as if to avoid some deflection.>>
Very good Cprince. You already know how to change your energy. You projected a state of emptiness and its amazing she didnt run out of the room with a migraine or worse.
I will email you next week privately if you desire with protective colors, oils and plants to use that will not only change the vibration in your house but will clear and remove negative energy on your person.
Of course, my magic and uses differs from that of other cultures and tribes. I don't know your religion or belief so i will have to be careful as to not insult you or suggest something that goes against what you believe in.
Blessings,
Black Shamaness
Hi Black Shamaness,
Thanks for your advise. I don't really like putting up shields because it's tedious and consumes time. You also need to remind yourself all the time about the shield. I tried a mirror and realized it could deflect to the loved ones around me.
Could you suggest various ways to change vibrations and I don't mind doing something more vicious now, she is pushing me too much.
Regards,
Choon
New update. There are four things I want to mention here.
Firstly, that maid appeared again in my dream last night. I never dreamt of anyone twice in a row my whole life!
Last night's dream was not as vivid. It involved me and my girlfriend then (now my wife), arguing because I complainted about the maid and we broke out subsequently. Among everything in the dream scape, the maid's face is the clearest. She was at the background looking innocent.
Tonight if I dreamt of her again, I am going to slash her head off her evil body.
Second, is the increasing tension around my head. This signals evil or negatives spirits around me. This is how I feel when negs are around. But this time it's not just tension, it's penetrating into me and causing me a bad headache. I think the entry points are the sides of the back of my neck. I have a hard time concentrating. This feeling is especially strong in the kitchen that is just outside her room.
Third, is the maid's attitude. She is smiling and laughing more often. She looks happy all the time and her face has certain glow that I never felt before. I think her felt that she has been successful in her attacks or I am already a fallen victim.
Lastly, is something I discovered in her room today. I glanced through her room for a minute while she was out buying some stuffs. Besides the usual discomfort, there is nothing suspicious left outside to be seen. However, I discovered a plastic cup, half filled with water with a old tea bag inside. I was shocked because I seen this plastic cup two years ago and it's still there. I used to see that cup outside her room and when I asked her what was that, she said it was her tea. And that was two years ago. Ever since I asked about the plastic cup, she has been keeping it out of my sight. Has she been drinking the same tea for the past two years?
Well, I poured the content away and refill it with tap water. I am yet to see what are inside her three drawers and underneath her bed that is filled with stuffs.
What I will do next is to take a photo shot of her in the room with a timed camera. I am also think of spying her with a nanny camera for few hours.
Let's see. Anyone has any comment on the above.
Regards,
Choon
Hi cprince,
Sorry for the delay in response, but I was wondering if anyone else would respond.
The stuff surrounding your head is the magnetic crap I've beeen telling you about. You need to be proficient in mantras inorder to clean yourself up.
This means that through your solar plexus the spirit has already entered and is now "setting up" it's own body inside your own and will try a take over through your meridians.
Don't worry, you need to start practicing mantras atleast 3 hours a day, mantras act to clean up...and contact a serious energy healer/acupuncturist, particularly those kung fu warrior master types.
The acupuncturist will know all the major meridians to clear out.
Dear Cprince
With all due respect, I think your obsession with this "evil" is taking on a life of its own. I am honestly starting to expect that the problems you are encountering are with you and not her. Have a reality check my friend.
Regards Mustardseed
Hi kalratri,
Thanks for your reply.
I don't think the situation is as serious as you mentioned. The spirit cannot possibly come close to my chakras because they spin at high frequencies and vibrations.
I sort out the two reasons that are causing the pressure on my head. Firstly, I am extending my aura for extra protection, which I why I felt the presence even from a distance. Secondly, I discovered my sushumna is crooked right at the neck area. I don't know why, maybe I forgot to cleanse myself often after each session.
What mantras are you referring you. I am a tibetan buddhist and I chant everyday. Can the buddhist mantra be used?
Thanks for your reply.
Regards,
Choon
Hi Mustardseed,
There is some truth in your statement. I think I blown the issue out of proportion. Maybe I never experience dealing with negs in my own house and so I panicked.
The real issue is not the maid, but the negs attached to her. The maid herself is harmful, I suppose. It's the negs attached to her that causes all the disturbances and energy draining.
I need to refocus the issue to the negs and not her. I think these negs are nothing but mostiquoes. You just need to apply your repellant and keep them away.
What do you think? I post my maid photo here and see if anyone can confirm my statement.
Regards,
Choon
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Well make sure. You seem to have all the symptoms of a neg manifestation/penetration:
1)tingling sensation at spinal solar plexus -- perhaps where it is attached.
2)really weird dreams
3)head pressure causing lack of focus.
my brother is a martial artist who meditates too, and he couldn't tell a neg manifestation until I consciously guided him through the entire thing. I'm one of the "sensitive" types who can feel a whole lot including the meridians you only see in the pictures.
ANY mantra will do, but generally the diety (form) associated with one of the names of the immortal you love and find the dearest makes all the difference.
Buddha is one of my favorites.
And yes, you really are too focused on the maid. That means she has more power over you. just relax and be fearless, with God on your side, everything will come out right.
Well make sure. You seem to have all the symptoms of a neg manifestation/penetration:
1)tingling sensation at spinal solar plexus -- perhaps where it is attached.
2)really weird dreams
3)head pressure causing lack of focus.
my brother is a martial artist who meditates too, and he couldn't tell a neg manifestation until I consciously guided him through the entire thing. I'm one of the "sensitive" types who can feel a whole lot including the meridians you only see in the pictures.
ANY mantra will do, but generally the diety (form) associated with one of the names of the immortal you love and find the dearest makes all the difference.
Buddha is one of my favorites.
And yes, you really are too focused on the maid. That means she has more power over you. just relax and be fearless, with God on your side, everything will come out right.
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Originally posted by runlola
I can't believe you posted a picture of this poor lady.
Why don't you leave this women alone & stop obsessing?
She has been in your house for two years? Now she is leaving
in two months & you are freaking out? What exactly is the crisis
& what exactly do you expect other people to do about it?
Thanks.
Yes, I know the controversy that comes with posting her photo. Which was the reason I took photo of the back, not revealing the identity of the person. It serves the purpose. As long as a full body length photo is shown, others could scan her energy and decide how critical the issue or I am just a paranoid.
This morning I spoke to her about the negs issue and advise her not to be involved in magic in the house. She appeared innocent and reminding me that she is all religious and prays five times a day, she also emphasizes that she does not believe in magic. Well, that runs counter with her going to the socerer to consult about the lost TV last year. Also I felt uncomfortable after talking to her face to face and looking into her eyes. My eyes seem heavy after that, the same feeling after one has cried.
Well, I hope someone in this forum could help to scan her photo and reveal the hidden side of her.
You might not know the anxieties and worries of putting my loved ones in danger. I would not be seeking help if I were the only one involved.
Thanks for your understanding and help.
Best Regards,
Choon
I don't meant to be rude, but can't you guys pick up anything from the photo. If the photo tells something, the real person is 10 times worse.
Why did you guys give up on this real life issue, and choose to focus on theories instead. Chances are that her energies has already deceived you.
cprince,
I believe you were in error thinking that picture would hold some magical qualities allowing to read the lady. The picture is comprised of pixels, or squares of single colour, and I don't understand how anyone could pick up anything esoteric from that picture. I cannot speak for analogue cameras, as they capture everything and isn't filtered by a computer chip but you never really know. It seems to me that nobody gets anything from this picture, and your decision to do this was a little to hasty.
Alternatively, I can't believe you haven't thought about kicking her out purely on the basis that she smells! You have a right to your home, and anybody who works there and stinks up the place aint welcome in my books. Do this for peace of mind, but then, you may never know of her true intent. Listen, what you are describing I don't think I can believe. Kick this lady out, if not for your sake, but then for hers.
Although I disagree with not being able to get feelings from photos, I agree that you need to get rid of her for your sake, because you are starting to look like some stalker..(http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/aktion/action-smiley-010.gif)
Cprince you sure you don't have a crush on her..[:X] Get outside and stop thinking about devil woman.
Nay (http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/tiere/animal-smiley-085.gif)
As I said, I don't believe it to be possible with digital, however I am sure it would be possible with a standard analogue camera, simply because it could capture things that a digital cannot. Yes I am a novice but I am approaching these things with a healthy amount of scepticsm.
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Originally posted by Dav
As I said, I don't believe it to be possible with digital, however I am sure it would be possible with a standard analogue camera, simply because it could capture things that a digital cannot. Yes I am a novice but I am approaching these things with a healthy amount of scepticsm.
First of all, I would like to apologise for the previous post. It wasn't really me who would reply in such manner.
In response to Dav, any mean of capturing the form would suffice to read energies. However it depends on how abilities and skills of the person reading it. Somebody can pick things up merely by feeling energies from the words you typed.
Anyway, thanks for your attention and suggestion. You are definitely not a novice but an expert in your field.
Regards,
Choon
No worries.
Hi All,
I have an important revelations.
I had a good talking session with my maid today and found out something that might help to solve the puzzle.
After seeing her photo, someone told me that the maid's weakness and her sister. So I started by asking her about her sister this morning.
She told me that her sister died about 10 years ago but visit her every 3 months. She also said that two of her dead husbands visit her regularly.
One of them on every Thursday night. One of her husband died of violent death after being curse by black magic from his own son (the son of the husband's first marriage). He died of vomitting blood.
Thereafter, one member from the maid's family will die each year. So far that has been true for the past 10 years.
Now, my speculation is that she is trying to dump the curse on other family based on the suggestion of her dead husband. Revenge is difficult because the attacker is protected by magic and is too strong to get back to him.
In order to stop the death of her family member each year, she needs to pass the curse to someone else. This is the reason why she tries to connect a cord with us, to establish a family link. This also include her insisting on using the same utensils as us and sharing the food we eat. I also believe she did something with the dirty underwears.
She has been using water as a form of attack. I said this after I discovered a suspicious cups of water that has been there since two years ago. The water in the kettle we drink, the water used to cook rice and prepare food, the water for washing laundry, and even the water for cleaning the house are all tampered by her.
I believe she is also partly under the control of her dead ex-husband and doing all these things to pass on the curse.
Since the curse was started by the son who has blood link, it can only be transferred to someone who blood link but is she trying to establish a relationship with us to have the link.
I am very puzzled. I am feeling the pressure on my head very often.
What do you or your spiritual friends suggest we do? He said that even if the maid is gone, it would not solve the problem. Does he mean that the maid has already establish a strong link with us to be able to pass on the curse?
Please help.
Choon
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I said this after I discovered a suspicious cups of water that has been there since two years ago.
This confuses me because wouldn't the water totally evaporate well before two years?
Thanks.
Nay
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Originally posted by Nay
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I said this after I discovered a suspicious cups of water that has been there since two years ago.
This confuses me because wouldn't the water totally evaporate well before two years?
Thanks.
Nay
I mean the same old dirty plastic cup I saw two years ago is still lying above her bed. She has lots of new cups to use but why is that old dirty plastic cup filled with unknown water is always there and occasionally seen at the laundry area?
I mean no offense, but it seems like you are looking waaaaay too into this. I mean..goodness, people take glasses of water to bed every night, and how in the world do you know it's the same glass?
I'm beginning to think that you are encroaching on this womans privacy. It's like you want something to be wrong. You really should take a break from all of this and go out into nature.[:D]
Nay
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Originally posted by Nay
I mean no offense, but it seems like you are looking waaaaay too into this. I mean..goodness, people take glasses of water to bed every night, and how in the world do you know it's the same glass?
I'm beginning to think that you are encroaching on this womans privacy. It's like you want something to be wrong. You really should take a break from all of this and go out into nature.[:D]
Nay
I mean no defense to myself. If on top of her bed there are three drinking containers, then you should be suspicious. There is a sparkling clean drinking bottle that obvious is her main drinking container, there is the dirty old plastic cup which no one in the right mind would put drinking water in it, and there is another one that i don't even want to know what is that.
That dirty old plastic cup was the container of a disposable instant noodle that people throw away after consuming the noodles inside. Mind you, I also discovered that she is also drinking from the cups that we use. Come on, is she selling drinks in my house or having unseen guest every nights.
I am not prying her privacy. I only see things that are lying around in the open for everyone to see. I have not looked into her drawer and boxes of stuff underneath her bed.
If you are sensitive to energy you will know what I am talking about. Why don't you print out her photo and place it at your solar plexus or stare at the photo without blinking for a minute.
There are too many things going on in my house. Strange noises, strange smells, strange stares from her and strange moving objects at the corners of my eyes especially outside her room.
Furthermore with her confirmation that she is visited by two of her dead ex-husband every day of the week, you can call this over suspicious and psycho paranoid manic?
I hope you have the same experience and let me have a chance to tell you not to be over sensitive.
Thanks for chance to clarify.
Choon
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Originally posted by cprince
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Originally posted by Nay
I mean no offense, but it seems like you are looking waaaaay too into this. I mean..goodness, people take glasses of water to bed every night, and how in the world do you know it's the same glass?
I'm beginning to think that you are encroaching on this womans privacy. It's like you want something to be wrong. You really should take a break from all of this and go out into nature.[:D]
Nay
I mean no defense to myself. If on top of her bed there are three drinking containers, then you should be suspicious. There is a sparkling clean drinking bottle that obvious is her main drinking container, there is the dirty old plastic cup which no one in the right mind would put drinking water in it, and there is another one that i don't even want to know what is that.
That dirty old plastic cup was the container of a disposable instant noodle that people throw away after consuming the noodles inside. Mind you, I also discovered that she is also drinking from the cups that we use. Come on, is she selling drinks in my house or having unseen guest every nights.
I am not prying her privacy. I only see things that are lying around in the open for everyone to see. I have not looked into her drawer and boxes of stuff underneath her bed.
If you are sensitive to energy you will know what I am talking about. Why don't you print out her photo and place it at your solar plexus or stare at the photo without blinking for a minute.
There are too many things going on in my house. Strange noises, strange smells, strange stares from her and strange moving objects at the corners of my eyes especially outside her room.
Furthermore with her confirmation that she is visited by two of her dead ex-husband every day of the week, you can call this over suspicious and psycho paranoid manic?
I hope you have the same experience and let me have a chance to tell you not to be over sensitive.
Thanks for chance to clarify.
Choon
LOL..sorry, but I have to agree with Runlola, what IS up with the cups? Maybe she is messy in her own space..she is a maid after all, and who likes to keep doing there job 24/7 ?
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I hope you have the same experience and let me have a chance to tell you not to be over sensitive.
And please don't try the guilt card on me..doesn't work for me anymore, been used up. Did you not read what I said, can you look past your defense and see it? What is that saying..? "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" Stop playing the fool, and before you get out of shape thinking I just called you a fool as a personal attack, it wasn't. You've been talking about this poor lady for quite some time now. If it is that bad, GET HER OUT OF YOUR HOUSE!
It is one thing to tell of your experiences and ask for help, it is quite another to ignore advice and to keep complaining when the solution is right infront of your face.. and brace yourself...hence why I'm beginning to think this is more of an attention getter than a real problem.
Nay
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I mean..goodness, people take glasses of water to bed every night, and how in the world do you know it's the same glass?
LOL..sorry, but I have to agree with Runlola, what IS up with the cups? Maybe she is messy in her own space..she is a maid after all, and who likes to keep doing there job 24/7 ?
Haven't you thought of the cup as a sigils? I quote a passage on sigils that says "Fanatical love or revenge spells rarely work if the person is consumed by the desire. It is far easier to bring change through already available channels in small ways than it is to change the entire universe to suit you!"
The Cup serves as a sigils because it the easiest way to create a "spell water" that will be added daily to our drinking water in the kennel, to the water that washes our laundry, to the water that prepares the food, to the water that mop the floor, etc.
Big magic works in small and steady daily efforts. She has her dead husband whom she knows very well, working with her on daily basis on the sigils. And they share the same objective on casting the spell.
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You've been talking about this poor lady for quite some time now. If it is that bad, GET HER OUT OF YOUR HOUSE! it is quite another to ignore advice and to keep complaining when the solution is right infront of your face.. and brace yourself...hence why I'm beginning to think this is more of an attention getter than a real problem.
Nay
If you had follow the post you should know that it is impossible for me to cast her out of my house because she has been manipulating my wife to keep her in the house. We have fought countless time on getting her out but she is just too stubborn. Clearly a psychic cord was established.
Your suggestion that I am over-sensitive is as subjective as my claim of psychic attack. But at least I have the following reasons:
1) Daily attack of negative energy (pressure on my head). This has always been with me since young. And each time it's always confirmed that negs were around me. Places like houses with large altar placed with hundreds of statues for worship, dark lanes, and around certain people, etc.
2) This psychic attacks have been confirmed by more than 5 people who are either psychics, energy workers, or expert in this field. None of them went deeper to solve the problem for one reason or another.
3) Strange strong smell that are foreign in the house.
4) Strange noises at night.
5) Frequently movement at the corners of my eyes around the house.
6) Negative vibes around the maid. I always feel uncomfortable with people with energies that are not compatible. I cannot even carry out a small talk.
7) Strange behavior from the maid. Her weirdz stares, her focus stares at certain prime chakras location, her occasion fear of something around me.
8) Her insistance on mopping the house and room with water everyday, and the strange smell in my room and around the house after she mops the place with her water.
9) Our clean, washed, ironed laundry are often lying around or hanging in her room. She should have returned it or hang it at the laundry collection area.
10) The weird water containers on top of her bed.
11) Her more than 5 times a day in prayers and more than one hour each session. She might not be praying for all you know but rather doing her magic or meditation.
12) Her voice. You watched Harry Porter, Lord of the Rings, etc. You know how a witch voice sounds. Each time she talks, especially when she raised her voice, I thought someone was watching Lord of the Rings at the living room.
There are alot much which I might have missed.
These are the twelve expressable reasons that justifies my claim. What have you to say that I am just over-sensitive.
What makes you say she is a poor lady rather than an evil lady?
Have you assessed the condition:
1) in your meditation
2) view her photo with your third eyes
3) asked your guides
4) asked a psychic or socerer
5) scan her photo with your energy sensors
etc
Well, I received much appreciated help via private messages. Some people never understand and they will never understand until they raised their energy vibration to perceived all these harmful and unseen things.
I am geniunely seeking help in desperation.
Choon
Greetings Cprince,
09/05 Black Shamaness to Cprince
<<This maid is dangerous and you are afraid of her, yes you are. >>
Cprince response to Shamaness on 09/08
09/08<< I don't put much importance on the maid. Yes she might be dangerous, practicing elemental magic, but I am not afraid of her.>>
09/10 CPrince response to Shamaness
<<The maid is very evil. She is putting on a mask all day. She took pleasure in bring out the fear and anxiety in me. She don't like peace.>>
You come to this forum for assistance am I not correct? You have not been truthful in your response to me at all. You say that you are not afraid of her and do not place "much importance on her",which is an outward lie because on 09/10 you disclosed your immense fear of her.
Your own damn fears are killing you. You are not listening to a damn word that the forum members here are suggesting to. All that you are doing is running like a rabbit and being eaten up by your own sick twisted fears. I am not going to pacify you and sugar coat what i have to tell you.
#1 Grow some balls. Have some strength. You have allowed this woman(yes,you) to turn your entire family and life upside down and you sit their asking for advice and yet whimpering like a bi***. You stay their and place all of the blame on this woman if you want to,but i know better. The maid is no saint...you know that. But you sit their and willingly hand over your power to this woman and hell...she is taking it.
Two years is more than enough time for this woman to work on you and your family. You are not even honest with your own damn self. Your fears are ripping you apart and as a result *you* are allowing entities to take up residence in your household and on your person.
I am telling it like it is. That is why it is very friggin dangerous for someone such as myself or any energy worker, psychic ...whatever to jump into your situation because you are the main cause. You tell us what you want us to hear knowing full well that you had troubles long before and then you expect someone to help your butt.
Dont get me wrong, i sympathize,but you cannot resolve this if you have not looked into "Self". I will say this, fess up to your problems and look into the deep emotional and truama that has taken place in your life. I dont say not to be weary of the maid, but damn deal with you and empower your own damn self.
You sound like an idiot when you complain about the cup. The cup as a sigil- ok maybe so, i dunno. I do know this, stop centering on every crap as a weapon against you and your family cprince.
If this woman was to walk around with a white handkerchief in her pocket, would that be a form of magic attack on you as well? You have centered and pick apart every damn thing this woman has done. I am not defending the cruel b*****, but i know that you are her little play thing. Go ahead and give up your power to her if you want by being fearful. Keep that up and your life span would be shorten, if not by her then by your own friggin thoughtforms that you have created which you keep fed based on your fears and paronoia.
Cprince
<<2) This psychic attacks have been confirmed by more than 5 people who are either psychics, energy workers, or expert in this field. None of them went deeper to solve the problem for one reason or another.>>
you're damn skippy. Why should anyone place themselves in danger from your created energies. Not only will the energy worker have to go against this woman, but you as well. Two for the price of one? I don't think so.
C prince <<
3) Strange strong smell that are foreign in the house.
4) Strange noises at night.
5) Frequently movement at the corners of my eyes around the house.>>
So what is Cprince doing to help himself??? You have a s*** load of spirits up in their . Reread my emails to you especially the first two. I showed concern for what you were projecting more so than the damn maid!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CPrince statement, <<8) Her insistance on mopping the house and room with water everyday, and the strange smell in my room and around the house after she mops the place with her water.>>
The maid is into heavy magic which she invokes. Alright, but you havent look at the whole picture. Their is a reason for mopping out the house Cprince. She's trying to help you. My God, she knows the damage that she has done...at some point she is trying to correct it. My God.
CPrince, <<10) The weird water containers on top of her bed.>>
It is to draw good spirits. We do that in Panama Cprince. It is to have kind benevolent spirits near us to guide us and to protect us Cprince.
<<11) Her more than 5 times a day in prayers and more than one hour each session. She might not be praying for all you know but rather doing her magic or meditation.>>
You do not know...silence Cprince. Meditate and be completely still. Be silent and learn from it. You are not alone Cprince.
<<12) Her voice. You watched Harry Porter, Lord of the Rings, etc. You know how a witch voice sounds. Each time she talks, especially when she raised her voice, I thought someone was watching Lord of the Rings at the living room.>>
Now you are being ridiculous. O.K., we know she's a witch, but she has to sound like one as well? And tell me does all witches sound like her? A witch could be in a three piece suit. Just some information for you.
Cprince, I am getting you to think. I want you to get past your fears, doubt and anxiety. This woman is into magic, but she is in fear as you, you more so than her. While she lives, you die.
Black Shamaness
Dear Black Shamaness,
THANKS ALOT!!! You kicked the sense out of me. What the f... had i been doing?
Let face myself and everyone here.
quote:
1) I don't put much importance on the maid. Yes she might be dangerous, practicing elemental magic, but I am not afraid of her.
2) The maid is very evil. She is putting on a mask all day. She took pleasure in bring out the fear and anxiety in me. She don't like peace.
These are conflicting statements. I made the first statement because I knew that I should not be afraid of her. I was trying to drown my own fear with affirmation that I am not afraid of her.
The second statement revealed that I fear her. Yes I do. I don't know WHY?????? I have NO reason to fear, I am not the evil one. I just don't want people to harm my family.
I have no idea how and when the fears were implanted in me. I am afraid to get close to her or looked into her eyes because I am afraid of negative energies. I am afraid of being contaminated by negative things. I am obsessed compulsively with pure and cleanliness.
Fears were also implanted in my dreams, by the sudden weird sounds that came from her room, by her strange stares, by the shadow that just moved from the corners of my eyes, and by her presence.
quote:
The cup as a sigil- ok maybe so, i dunno. I do know this, stop centering on every crap as a weapon against you and your family cprince.
If this woman was to walk around with a white handkerchief in her pocket, would that be a form of magic attack on you as well? You have centered and pick apart every damn thing this woman has done.
That is true. I am to the point of paranoid that anything suspicious is considered harmful and dangerous. I am totally vulnerable. I don't know what have been spelled by her. The clothes I am wearing, the water I drunk, the air I breathe and the entity that is near me now causing my head pressure.
quote:
Her insistance on mopping the house and room with water everyday, and the strange smell in my room and around the house after she mops the place with her water.>>
The maid is into heavy magic which she invokes. Alright, but you havent look at the whole picture. Their is a reason for mopping out the house Cprince. She's trying to help you. My God, she knows the damage that she has done...at some point she is trying to correct it. My God.
You may be right, I don't know. It's like the conscience of a pick-pocket strike and decided to return some money back to the person whom he stole from?
I don't get it. You stabbed someone and you helped to mend the wound and then you continue to stab that person. Could you help me to make this out?
Are you seconding my speculation that she is under the control of her dead husband which is the entity we are talking about?
quote:
The weird water containers on top of her bed.
It is to draw good spirits. We do that in Panama Cprince. It is to have kind benevolent spirits near us to guide us and to protect us Cprince
I don't know whether to agree with this. Water placed near your bed traps all energies or spirits that visits you while you sleep. I speculate that the purpose of the cup placed on top of her bed is to strengthen the sigils, because her mastermind, her dead husband come visit her almost everynight and his energies will captured in the water. This water is then mixed with the water we use daily, including drinking, preparing food and washing.
Maybe that how the curse is supposed to be transferred.
quote:
Her more than 5 times a day in prayers and more than one hour each session. She might not be praying for all you know but rather doing her magic or meditation.
You do not know...silence Cprince. Meditate and be completely still. Be silent and learn from it. You are not alone Cprince
Prayer is a form of meditation. Meditation comes in many form. I am not referring to the standing and bowing times when she prays, I refered to the times when she was all silence in her room and the long hours she was alone at home. If times when we were home and she was praying so hard, what do you think she was doing when we are not at home. We leave the house at 9am and come back after work at 6pm, nobody except her is in the house.
quote:
Her voice. You watched Harry Porter, Lord of the Rings, etc. You know how a witch voice sounds. Each time she talks, especially when she raised her voice, I thought someone was watching Lord of the Rings at the living room.>>
Now you are being ridiculous. O.K., we know she's a witch, but she has to sound like one as well? And tell me does all witches sound like her? A witch could be in a three piece suit. Just some information for you.
I am jolly well aware of that and my ridiculous thinking. But you should know that a person voice is one of the best ways to understand his core energy. Voice is energy, it vibrates from your throat chakra.
quote:
Cprince, I am getting you to think. I want you to get past your fears, doubt and anxiety. This woman is into magic, but she is in fear as you, you more so than her.
What is she afraid of?
That fear is a very bad energy. It appears particularly on my solar plexus. After spreading holy water on my solar plexus, I am feeling very peaceful and tired now. This is in contrast with the deep fear after first reading your post.
Anyway, Black Shamaness, I really Thank You for bring this out and let me confront the force that is weakening me. This is one of the greatest help I received.
Thank you so much.
Best
Choon
quote:
Dear Black Shamaness,
THANKS ALOT!!! You kicked the sense out of me. What the f... had i been doing?
Perhaps I should have cussed at you bit more to bring home my point[^]
No matter, glad you are starting to see.
Nay.
I think one of the most effective ways to weaken someone's defense is by manipulating the emotions.
Based on the upbring and traumatic experience, everyone has dominant negative emotions, it could be anger, jealousy, depression, suspicious, fear, etc. The mind is then bombarded with thoughts to arouse such negative emotions. This could be done indirectly, meaning that negative emotions could be stimulated by people around you, when these people are agents of the manipulations.
I am seeing the picture now. But I thank her for this valuable lesson. If not for the unusual frequency of negative thoughts that entered my mind, and the consistency sensation on the solar plexus each time I surrendered to these negative emotions, I wouldn't have suspected this mode of attack.
But I am curious how could one's mind be influenced or suggested to act in certain way?
So what is next after getting rid of fear and other negative emotions?
I am now safe?
I had enough, it's time to declare war on this very vague and confusing psychic attack.
This concerns a maid who lives with us. She came from a very remote mountainous village where lifestyles are still very primitive. People there go to witch doctors when they are sick or when they need problems to be solved.
The first time I laid my eyes on her, I felt uneasy about this lady. Not because of her "caveman" look but rather felt she is here to settle some psychic issue.
My sensitivity with energies is a consequence of some training in energies and I have been working with several systems in the past 3 years.
I had tried to ignore this issue since the initial attack was not serious, and I thought she was just a petty psychic vampire.
I changed my thought when I started to feel tingling sensations at specific spots on my back about one year ago.
I cannot determine what is the purpose of this attachment and I have tried many ways to resolve this including sending her healing energies, thinking positively and emptiness thought. None of these help and she is always giving me the look that says "you can't do anything to me".
A friend of mine who is more advance in psychic training visited me and did a scan on her. His conclusion was the maid has a psychic issue linked to her inheritance way back to her ancestor. She is now trying to establish a link with me and my family with the attachment of a psychic cord. He reminded me to remove the cord attachment daily.
The maid somehow knew she cannot manipulate me, turned her attention to my wife. My wife is a simple person who do not believe in anything paranormal. I did a test on her and found that she is very prone to psychic influence. My wife is protecting the presence of the maid at home and we often ended up with quarrels whenever I justify the maid should not remain in our house with psychic reasons.
I can feel that the maid is establishing a strong connection with my wife and is now easily under influence.
I am loss as to what I could do. I cannot be a sitting prey waiting to be devoured when the time matures.
Could any kind person please help me in this very urgent crisis.
I am still confuse as to the purpose of this psychic attack and what I could do to put an end to all these and live life peacefully.
The air is thick in her room and she has a very distinctive odour of an animal. I am sorry to say that. But I hope the description could be helpful.
Hi all,
The maid is finally gone since last week but ever since I am down with fever, feeling both hot and cold, also my solar plexus hurts. I don't remember ever being sick for more than 3 days.
The maid left in a rush, which is very unusual. Normally she would shake my hand, and apolgize for any mistake she made. But this time, she did not even look into my eyes. The way she left would remind you of someone who hurried off the scene after committing a crime.
I had a hard time clearing the energy in the house. I tried tibetan incense, smudge, sprinkled holy water and even left two chunks of pork meat overnight in her room (this method is employed to counter muslim magicks).
But no matter how I clean, the smell that is distinctively hers is always next to me. I tried to find the source but found that it is everywhere in the house. I am feeling a pressence or negative energies that she left behind for the final devour.
Could any kind person help me see what she left behind and help me clear that if possible.
Best Regards,
Choon
Hi cprince,
I would just suggest that you watch your thoughts very closely and see if you might possibly be creating much of this or amplifying it with your own thought streams. I am learning just how powerful our thoughts are recently and have found that whenever I think of a neg attack that might happen... it does. I think that people's thoughts are becoming very powerful these days for some reason, and maybe eventually we may find that whenever we think of something it will create itself right in our lives almost immediately. I have proven this theory to myself many times this past year and I have been learning fast about how to keep my thoughts on progressive or positive ideas. This is good advice for anyone out there now, as our thoughts are A LOT more powerful than we may have ever suspected. Good thoughts... good thoughts.... and more good thoughts... :D
All be well...
Covelo
I feel obliged to update the group to the end.
I've just been discharged from hospital for typhoid fever and now still recuperating at home.
Covelo, thank you. Yes, I do not deny that some of the problems are self-created thought-forms. All these negatives thoughts were also consequence of falling prey to the maid's ploy of creating fear.
The last action taken was inviting a friend of mine to my house for energies clearing. This friend is a young Muslim mystic and he studied under the Wali Sonong, believe it or not.
As soon as he stepped into my house he sensed an entity in the maid's room. When he went in check it out, he saw in his psychic eyes a half-naked male with role tied around his neck. Apparently, this person died of violent death and he suspect he was the ex-husband of the maid. A walk around my house he spotted a jin in my study room that was sent by the maid.
My friend managed to capture both entities and trapped these in a plastic bottle of mineral water. That bottle of water weighed heavier than it was before.
Subsequently, the maid's socerer attempted another attacked on my wife causing her to be unreasonably emotional. I check this with my friend and he confronted the socerer in this meditation, who apologized for what happened after my friend warned him of the consequences if he continued to play prank with us.
When asked why the maid wanted to cause us harm, the socerer reply was that the maid didn't like to be told what to do. She wanted to do things her way. The fact is that she far from being smart to be trusted to do things her own way. But we felt this is just excuse she gave to the socerer. She is just wick and evil and wanted to cause family disharmony in others.
I am letting go of this situation and I trust that what goes around comes around. I believe in the power of Jesus Christ in protecting me and my family. I received a message the other day in Church that I left all the problems to Him and not to think about it anymore, He knows what to do with it. In the name of Jesus Chirst, I call this the end, Amen.
I am lucky enough to blessed and be helped by authorities from three different religions. Thank God.
Tasik Delek,
Choon