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findtruth

I don't like prophets.  They suck.  
As far as I'm concerned; as long as there has been drugs, there have been prophets.
However, should a war occur, I will be on the side of whoever I percieve as the most rightious.  And did anyone ever think that there could be more than just two sides.  What about an all-out war between three or five sides or more all anhiliating each other.  I mean it's supposed to be total chaos right, so no one's really gonna work together.  And who says that the anti-christ is gonna be the prez of the US?[;)]

Clow

When the final pole shift happens I can choose which side I want to be on. Also anything and everything will be affected by the poleshift. The people who are more "in tune with the universe" will just be the most likley to survive it. Also Volcome I didn't know that scientists had anything to do with Demensional pole shifts. Maybe volcanic ones but not the spiritual ones. I think there will only be two sides but I might be wrong maybe there are more.
You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.

kakkarot

1 John 2:18 - Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
(aka, /every/ one that denies the father and the son is an antichrist)

1 John 4:3 - And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

those are EVERY reference in the bible to an antichrist, and as you can see, there is not one single antichrist, but *everyone* who denies jesus and God is an antichrist (after all, think about the words: anti and christ... duh). also note the "even now are there many antichrists".

~kakkarot

findtruth

Could there be a major world-leader antichrist, though?

Mick

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Originally posted by findtruth

Could there be a major world-leader antichrist, though?


Would we notice the difference. I think that Blair is a contender, leaves chaos wherever he treds [:o)]
Mick

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Oazaki

quote:
Originally posted by kakkarot

those are EVERY reference in the bible to an antichrist, and as you can see, there is not one single antichrist, but *everyone* who denies jesus and God is an antichrist (after all, think about the words: anti and christ... duh). also note the "even now are there many antichrists".

~kakkarot



kakkarot,

i think clow is using the term "anti-christ" in its popular, prophetic, end-of-days sense - as opposed to in its christian/theological sense.

in this context, the second beast from revelations is, i believe, relevant here.  I would also add that George W. Bush is the second beast from revelations:

quote:

Revelation 13
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him



or, as is written in "The Devil's Apocrypha" by John A. De Vito:

quote:

Fear ye him, for he shall be the Second of Three, the Bearer of Faith. He shall hold the heavens as his banner; and the congregations of his nation shall be his soldiers.
He shall wage his war in the name of all that is holy, yet he shall not be holy. His words will speak of justice and mercy for his people, yet his actions will be unjust and unmerciful; for THIS PRINCE SHALL BE THE FATHER OF TERROR UPON THE EARTH.
In his atrocities shall no race or faith find succour, for his killings shall spare no one, not even the children of his tribe



oh and Clow, the "demon war" you speak of is beginning in the first half of THIS VERY YEAR (2004) and will result in the fall of the government of the United States of America (and associated supporting structures).  and the demons (as well as divers other entities) will be on humanity's side in this upcoming war.  and we're going to win btw.  :D

all the best all,
Oazaki.
Expect No Mercy

Talon213

Fascinating. And here I was beginning to believe that I was the onlyone here who believed in any sort of demonic war. Wow, I don't feel so alone anymore, LoL. Personally I too believe that the prophetic events described in the bible (those related to the 'tribulation' we are to face) will soon begin to be fulfilled. I believe that within the next year or so we will begin to see drastic changes spiritually. Also, I believe that there will be drastic changes in the physical world too, specifically relating to governmental issues and things of that nature.

Hm, just thought I'd throw my 2ยข in with the rest.

Hephaestus

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Originally posted by Talon213

Fascinating. And here I was beginning to believe that I was the onlyone here who believed in any sort of demonic war.


It is fascinating that you found it so fascinating you decided to stop lurking and post on the board. Welcome.

Clow

I never really used the word anti-christ. a couple days ago I lost my christian faith. However I did think that the prophets were off a bit and the war would come earlier. I can feel the pole shifts.
You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.

findtruth

Sooo, In other words, the US is supposed to fall by July?  Where did you here this, Oazaki? (or anyone else who knows) And how is it supposed to fall?  Will Bush destroy it, will there be an economic slump, or will Hell pop out of the ground and the Us get swallowed u8p in it, eh?

sain

I tend to agree with findtruth; as in I am pretty sceptical about the end of the world as we know it today in the near future. if it were to happen though, I think I would side with the group who shared my views (again, agreeing w/ findtruth). I don't think I would change to some other form if (or when) this happens in my lifetime, because I would probably have had some inkling of it by now. and I'm curious about something; Clow, why do you think you will be a cat demon? why not a dog or a horse or a turtle? I was wondering where this idea came from.

findtruth

Hey, U.S. falling? Anybody know about this?!  Okay, I admit it.  I want the U.S. government to come crumbling down!  Though I suppose I'm just being hopeful...

wantsumrice

How about not even think about the damn end of the world theories and focus on your own lives and improving them.

kakkarot

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Originally posted by wantsumrice

How about not even think about the damn end of the world theories and focus on your own lives and improving them.


probably cause their own lives are too harsh or too boring, so they look to the future as a form of escapism. pretty normal among us humans after all ^_^ . after all, why care about the bills you have to pay tomorrow when you have "really important training to do in preperation for some major catastrophe in the future"? [;)] or maybe it's along the lines of "i can ignore that bully in school cause i know i'm going to save his life in a short while and he'll change his attitude and appreciate me instead" [|)].

everyone has their drug, the thought they need to keep them going till tomorrow, and the day after that. the thing that gives meaning to their lives; hope that what they are living right now isn't all that there is to life, that it really is better than this.

~kakkarot

wantsumrice

Drugs are bad.  Don't do drugs.
~ivan

rhinegirl

quote:
Originally posted by wantsumrice

Drugs are bad.  Don't do drugs.
~ivan



Define DRUG!  If a drug is any chemical that alters the human body chemistry then by that definition oxygen, water, food,etc are drugs.[:P]

Jessica

Clow

It may be so that some people use the future as escapism or the way to kepp going through life. I infact could maybe be doing that. All I have is a bunch of things I've seen felt and heard. But as most people say. To be sure I need something I can hold. Though we only have a few more years till this is over and we will all get our answers won't we[|)].
You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.

Clow

Sorry for the double post forgot to answer Sain.

To explain it completley would kinda be off topic and by me saying it for some reason, angers people. However I can say that a reliable friend read my aura and told. I don't know how it works so don't ask me. Also if you want to know the whole story you can PM me.
You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.

Hephaestus

Apparently when the demon war starts the hellmouth will open and Sunnydale will get sucked into hell and prehistoric Vampires will roam the Earth feeding on humanity - not even the slayer can stop them............. or can she! [;)]

Oazaki


Clow - "However I did think that the prophets were off a bit and the war would come earlier. I can feel the pole shifts."

your intuition in this regard is strong.  yes indeed the events will be hitting earlier than prophesied, reason being that if the karma in this regard is fed thru earlier, it has less mass to it and consequently the "negative" effects will be greatly reduced.  re: the pole shifts, i'm not sure when exactly this will occur, but i do know that it will be before 2013.

findtruth - "Sooo, In other words, the US is supposed to fall by July? Where did you here this, Oazaki?"

well the USA govt, rather than the USA per se.  but yes, that's the basic gist of it.  and the USA as a nation will cease to exist, being split up into many, smaller nation states and a lot of the land being given back to the various native tribes.  as to where i got this... well, i've got access to priveledged information in this regard! [:D]  sorry, can't really say more than that here, now.  but hey, check it out for yourself and see what you get.  if you look at my homepage, that will give you some links which will fill in some further peices of the puzzle for you if you're interested...

Talon213 - "I believe that within the next year or so we will begin to see drastic changes spiritually. Also, I believe that there will be drastic changes in the physical world too, specifically relating to governmental issues and things of that nature."

yes indeed. [:D]

Clow - "Though we only have a few more years till this is over and we will all get our answers won't we"

yep.  in fact by the end of this year the craved-for physical results will be there for all to see.  now though, i would ask:  how come damn near every sensitive and strongly psychic person is picking up on MAJOR changes to come in the next few years?  and sure, some psychics are picking up on such things *every* year [:roll:] but i for one, and many others too it would seem, got these premonitions only as regards this time-period we're now entering...

i'd also add that all of this is consistent with the relevant astrological factors in this regard, aswell as with the events/possibilities detailed in the bible code.  so there's another two areas anybody who's interested can look into if they like.  though re: the bible code, i think you'll find that the main possibility reffered to in the second book of the series is not the one which will occur.  rather the other possibility, very briefly mentioned but not detailed in that book, is the one which i'm placing my money on as occurring.  which brings us to the topic of which search terms to run thru the code, and what the details of that "other possibility" are...

all the best all,
Oazaki.
Expect No Mercy

findtruth

so we continue training as always, and wait.  If nothing happens, we continue on as always.  If something does, well, then we'll all have to cross that bridge when we come to it.[;)]  Provided there is some all out war or whatever, I'll side with those who I see as most rightious and honorable (yes, I believe in such things, even today).  Either that, or I'll be a loner.  [B)]

kakkarot

quote:
Originally posted by Clow

Though we only have a few more years till this is over and we will all get our answers won't we[|)].

well, not really. people will just pick a different date a few years into the future, pick a different catastrophe, and start all over again ^_^ .

~kakkarot

Clow

That is probably true if it doesn't happen but I strongly believe that it will. Besides it about time that the goverment falls, this one sucks.
You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.

findtruth

All governments suck.  By nature, they take away freedom.  We, as a society don't know what true freedom is like, just because some people we don't know are ruling over us.  
Anyway, if you guys are right about the 2012(or sooner) war, won't it be the first time that a group like this has actually been right about a prophecy?  Think of all the other events and apocolypses that have been predicted and never happened.

Clow

You can't outrun death but you can make the Bastard work for it.

"Does the Walker choose the Path, or does the Path choose the Walker."

Like a light at the end of a tunnel that goes on forever.