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quote:Originally posted by Dark Knight The other is the concept that a guide can and will do anything to you (no boundaries whatsoever) to teach you a lesson, including lying.
quote:Originally posted by McArthurI couldnt read this entire thread because i find it hard to read these so-called "channellings" from negs/unclean spirits/astral shells. *shivers*Dont you people realize that an unclean spirit will pretend to be ANYTHING so long as you allow it to keep feeding off your attention/energy? But from what i have read here it seems that some here (or the negs they are host to) are attempting to recruit other gullable persons to allow these spirits (by inviting them in) to come feed. So im going to have some questions for your "spirit guides" if they are prepared to answer. After all, the Bible says to "test your spirits" so i feel that any positive spirit surely wont mind being tested right?Here is test No.1: Tell the spirit that you have decided you want it to leave for exactly 1 month and make no contact with you WHATSOEVER during this time. If it refuses or comes up with an excuse such as "I am not able to do that because we have important work to do to fulfil Divine Plans" then you can be sure its a neg. Any positive helpful spirit will understand your wishes and do as asked.Not all negs will cause negative symptoms. So long as they get to feed on your attention why would they? Some negs feed by giving their victim an orgasm. feels good eh but its still a form of vampirism.I will have more to say on this soon (and after i have read the whole thread) i'm just so shocked at present how gullable some people really are. You can choose to take my post as being negative if you like, and i'll certainly be interested in what any of your "guides" have to say- so fire away. I do realize that this post may seem slightly antagonistic but thats because i really dont like negs.Here is a question for anyone with a guide: Ask it what the special meaning of the number 228 is. If it is a guide with contacts Higher up it will know.Try this link; http://www.clairvision.org/CKB/CKBC/CKBC_000_077/Index.htmlHere is a couple from the FAQ;From: Could some entities be extra terrestrials or related to them?"All jokes aside, if there is one thing that has emerged from the Clairvision exploration of entities, it is that you can never believe what they tell you. Entities exist on a fluid, changing level. They can easily modify their appearance, and the 'feel' attached to them. They are ready to play all sorts of games. And they are always looking for someone to buy into their game, because it is their best chance of survival."From: You say that entities are not evil. How do you reconcile this with other people's reports of demonic entities?"Entities have a chameleon nature.Once you identify an entity, the entity will try hard to make you believe you can't live without it, or that it is so powerful that there is no chance you will ever get rid of it.The reason is simple: if you clear it, it loses its life support system. Fragments (by far the most common category of entities) are unable to survive by themselves. In most cases, when a fragment is expelled from its host, its only chance of survival is to find another host in a matter of days or weeks. So when the client consciously gets in touch with the entity, the entity is ready to play all sorts of games to 'extend its visa', so to speak. Give the entity a lead, and it will follow it. Ask it, "Are you evil?" and it will answer you, "Yes! More evil than you can possibly imagine."Ask it, "Are you my spirit guide?" and it will answer you as if it were your spirit guide.Ask it, "Are you an alien?" and it will immediately draw from the client's memory to fabricate extra-terrestrial stories.This is one of the reasons why entities appear different in different cultural and religious contexts.In the Clairvision style of work, entities are reduced to their smallest denominator. They are not given much chance to build up stories. Their wantings are analysed with as little 'wrapping' as possible, keeping the story side to the strictest minimum. Then they are cleared."
quote:Originally posted by SpectralDragonThis IS only fair  Very well, I already did the month thing with Kereen. She did not like the idea (for reasons I will not explain, but it was not the "we have divine" stuff that you were talking about) but she agreed because at the time I had to sort myself out (long story) So that's a plus there.
quote:228...hmmm let's see what she says... she's luaghing. Don't know why.
quote: Sorry seems like she thinks this is misguided a bit or something.
quote: Has to do with Chaos Math I know (and am getting) that much.
quote:Also, she said "you need to come up with better tests, negs do so like to act like the real thing."
quote:Originally posted by Dark KnightWhoa, Whoa, whoa, Spectral and MacArthur, take it easy. I know your story MacArthur, you sent it to me before you disappeared, and I have spoken to Spectral "a few times". You guys might end up being friends and don't know it.MacArthur, Spectral's guide Kereen is "unusual" and so is Spectral. Do I agree with Kereen all the time, no, and Spectral will tell you that. But my trust issue isn't as severe with her as with certain others. And vagueness is a problem I have with Mayatnik.Read the WHOLE thread MacArthur...and Spectral don't use Chaos Math on MacArthur (he isn't being vague MacArthur, he's doing CM, trying to figure you out too), just be straight forward for goodness sake  You may really like him a lot and I think you two will discover you have a lot in common.
quote:Like you said Dk i need to read the whole thread but its 12 pages looooong!