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D.E.A.T.H

I just want to share some experiences that I have come across.
Sometimes I sit in front of the computer and noticeably feel a change in my brainwaves or patterns, sort of like I'm phasing into an alternate reality. It just feels awkward and wrong, the space is so empty and silent like I am the only one in it, when I walk through my house it feels "not right". Normally I phase back into reality but there was one occasion that I woke up one morning and was in another state of reality, everything felt weird and out of place, I had a horrible day, like a bad dream that you just want to wake up from but can't. I went to work and back and after reassuring myself I should just go to sleep, tomorrow everything will be back to normal and it did. I woke up the next day and was back in familiar reality. When I think back to that day even the day after it happened it all felt surreal, like it didn't happen, like I was dreaming or something but I wasn't because it was the next day of the week.

Timandra

Hi, what you describe, sounds like a depersonalization disorder. I think that if you have this often, it would be wise to go to a doctor.
Just read the link and see if it sounds familiar to you.  :-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization_disorder
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

Greytraveller

Hallo D.E.A.T.H.
I get those 'altered' feelings too but, fortunately. in my case it happens only very rarely (maybe about once every 6 to 8 weeks). When it does occur I usually ending up watching tv or playing a CD and that usually puts things back to normal.
btw are you the same D.E.A.T.H. that used to post at the old astralsociety.com website??
Just curious

Regards  8-)
Grey

D.E.A.T.H

Gray I am not, I have only posted on astralpulse a couple of years back.
Timandra - This "personality disorder" is very interesting but I think it is not a disorder at all. When we dream or when we meditate, we enter altered states of consciousness, our minds tune into a higher frequency. What I think this is is some part of the brain tune into a higher or some unknown frequency while the rest of the brain does not. I am not a brain surgeon but obviously certain parts of the brain is responsible for certain things we perceive. I usually can enter this state easy especially when I'm tired, since some part of my brain is probably sleeping and I am conscious and still in control of myself it would seem that my subconscious is in a higher or altered state. I am just trying to understand this and obviously would a doctor not be capable of treating this since it can only be diagnosed and no scientific tests can be done to confirm it. I have studied the link you gave me about the dpd and I understand that disorder although mine sounds familiar it is not the same.

CFTraveler

Sounds like major deja vu.  I used to get those when younger but at some point they stopped all by themselves.

Timandra

QuoteTimandra - This "personality disorder" is very interesting but I think it is not a disorder at all. When we dream or when we meditate, we enter altered states of consciousness, our minds tune into a higher frequency. What I think this is is some part of the brain tune into a higher or some unknown frequency while the rest of the brain does not. I am not a brain surgeon but obviously certain parts of the brain is responsible for certain things we perceive. I usually can enter this state easy especially when I'm tired, since some part of my brain is probably sleeping and I am conscious and still in control of myself it would seem that my subconscious is in a higher or altered state. I am just trying to understand this and obviously would a doctor not be capable of treating this since it can only be diagnosed and no scientific tests can be done to confirm it. I have studied the link you gave me about the dpd and I understand that disorder although mine sounds familiar it is not the same.

It's good that you know that you don't have that disorder and you're problably correct. I know exactly what you mean with these altered states because I have often experienced several of them, (not the one talked about here in this thread) and I know they are normal.
Some things have to be believed to be seen ~ Ralph Hodgson

Astral316

This sounds exactly like derealization... this is different from depersonalization which I've had far more experience with. My experience with derealization happened a couple summers back when I quit a long-term addiction to marijuana. Within a week of being clean I felt a clear change in my perception of this reality. I noticed this one evening when I was walking my dog along train tracks that are somewhat isolated from residential areas. I've grown up along these traintracks and have jogged on them for years, but in this altered state the environment had a distinct dreamlike quality that made me feel uneasy of my surroundings. These surroundings felt like a dreamworld that I visited at some time but couldn't recall. It had a mystery about it that was intimidating. My house became creepy, tv shows became empty and colorless, reality became less trusting with an underlying sinister nature. This lasted for a week or two, and during that time I was panicking thinking it would never go back to normal. Google the term and see if your experience matches, the condition can be brought upon by stress as well as withdrawl from drugs or alcohol.

D.E.A.T.H

Derealization does seem to be a better description of what I encounter. I can however induce this state out of will. I do not take drugs or alcohol and never suffers from anxiety and I never stress about stuff most people make huge issues of. people that go through huge emotional trauma or above mentioned conditions will probably be the most likely candids for derealization which is understandable but I think coming back to the topic of quantum states and realities what we perceive and "tune" into is in fact different realities which is "real" since it can be experienced and psychologist/doctors etc that try to categorize and label this phenomena is just stuck in 3d world and are blind to the endless possibilities that is there to explore.

Lexy

I think you are just shifting in between dimensions.  You could focus & breath in that feeling when it happens, see what you can experience.  Is this something that bothers you? Try not to analyze it when it happens, just flow with it. If you want to stop it, try more grounding activities.
"Life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves."

Lunarvegan

It sounds exactly like derealization, and to a lesser extent depersonalization. I would seek help if it gets troublesome, as it has pretty much ruined my life as I knew it. When everything seems surreal and dream-like, you lose the will to live anymore.  Mine started in flashes every couple of months, then became weekly, daily, and then perpetual. I was existing in another dimension while being in this one, seeing things one isn't "supposed" to see, and hearing things one isn't "supposed" to hear; everything, always, felt like an abstract painting, as though I was an alien, or not even an organism - as though consciousness was foreign to me. I was eventually diagnosed with Schizophrenia, and put on medications. It has lessened the intensity and frequency of the feeling, but I still can't be alone for myself for extended periods of time in case I miss a dose or two, in which case I will experience mind-blowing intense de-realization/personalization that has on occasion caused me to harm myself, not seeing any reason why I shouldn't, or hearing voices why I should.

D.E.A.T.H

@Lunarvegan. Wow you make it sound like it is a sickness, it shouldn't be classified like this. Maybe people just can't accept the fact that their reality isn't the only one and when they stumble into something that is not of their reality their responses are fear based. This I think comes from not having enough knowledge or rejecting the knowledge presented in such altered states. Doctors and Psychs treats this all wrong. You do not need to fear anything, rather explore and accept the truths given, not kill or harm yourself, that would just be pointless. If you believe in reincarnation, life after death and understand how the "forgetting" process works when you enter this world you cannot commit suicide because it isn't a way out, you will just one day realize the bigger picture and then remember that you are there where you are because you killed yourself previously and see the cycle of patterns repeating itself into infinity until you learn the lessons and experiences that you set out for yourself before you came to this world reality in the first place. Killing yourself is just a setback and you will "awaken" later in your life every time you come back. This is what I think  :-)

i smoke and drink coffee

i was still in school when I first got online, and started to RP on Old MSN.
So, there I was, Paradise Knight, and got blown up by a character that went by the name "Orochi Zero".
Made a new character, called him 'darkzeroseth'.  So that eventually became my pigeonhole for all things satanic and evil, and as the cybering and rp went hand in hand, I engrossed myself in satanic things while trying to maintain a pure intention.  All manner of things happened, love, quests, battles, and so forth.
So!  I was about nineteen, and I would go for long walks, eight mile walks down the backroads.  It was all surreal, and the light that I was seeing in everything was crystalline, pure, clear, and vivid.  I invented a lot of ideas in those days, I have a storage box filled with papers about 'swords' and 'powers' and character based things.  What I don't get about what you guys are saying is how a surreal reality could be something unwanted??  I lived in it for a few years, and loved every second of it.  Was getting extremely mentally ill and died and came back and all other ungodly sorts of things happened, apparently my long walks and runs out in the backwoods paid off, cuz ten years later, I'm still here being an idiot spewing all manner of things from my mind as absolute truth.
Even when I was nineteen, I still pushed the boundaries of reality, out there in the north field with my staff and fighting thieves and walking with the 'rain stone' in my pocket.  I'll always remember the crystaline, clear, lucid quality that the light had in those days. 
Surreal EQUALS Super Cool, imo.

Summerlander

QuoteI just want to share some experiences that I have come across.
Sometimes I sit in front of the computer and noticeably feel a change in my brainwaves or patterns, sort of like I'm phasing into an alternate reality. It just feels awkward and wrong, the space is so empty and silent like I am the only one in it, when I walk through my house it feels "not right". Normally I phase back into reality but there was one occasion that I woke up one morning and was in another state of reality, everything felt weird and out of place, I had a horrible day, like a bad dream that you just want to wake up from but can't. I went to work and back and after reassuring myself I should just go to sleep, tomorrow everything will be back to normal and it did. I woke up the next day and was back in familiar reality. When I think back to that day even the day after it happened it all felt surreal, like it didn't happen, like I was dreaming or something but I wasn't because it was the next day of the week.

Hallucinations...just hallucinations...Are you seeing anyone about this?

I wanted to revive this thread and create more of a heated debate. :evil:

Dazino

Quote from: Summerlander on May 01, 2011, 16:28:27
Hallucinations...just hallucinations...Are you seeing anyone about this?

I wanted to revive this thread and create more of a heated debate. :evil:

Whats the point? Everyone shared what they wanted to share...or did you just want people to get upset at each other for their beliefs?  :-)

Summerlander

I just wanted to stir the pot to see if people explored other arenas. Why should they get upset if they experience a paradigm shift? :wink: