O.R.M.E.

[Nick]

Thanks for the post Nightwolf, and welcome to the Astral Pulse! [] In addition to what you've mentioned, I would also recommend that members interested in Quantum Metaphysics read a copy of Understanding the Grand Design - Spiritual Reality's Inner Logic by Joachim Wolf. There are posts by Mr. Wolf in this forum that can be read as well. Here is a link to the book, as well as a sample excerpt, and brief bio of the author:

http://www.trafford.com/robots/02-1283.html

[JoWo]

You can even get the book free, please read my recent post in the Sticky topic "Who Understands Quantum Metaphysics?" above.

Jo.

[Nightwolf]

BTW a very good link on this subject would be ...

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/whatisit.htm

It has many scientific reports on this subject and there is even a email discussion group which I have been in for a very long time.  Also this substance has really benificial abilities like it helps people remember their dreams ... I'm even inclined to think that it would also help with shadow memory too.  This stuff is a room temp superconductor.  And many other interesing things too.

I'm currently taking gold ormus.  Its not only a scientific thing that people research, its also a ... the best way to call it would be an energy body suppliment. [|)]

[Rob]

Hey Nightworlf - how is the ormus going?
I tried some a while back, we got it for my grandad cos he was unwell. It seemed to make senses and perceptions sharper, and stuff....[]

Rob

[Nightwolf]

Hey Inguma I'm glad that your dad is feeling better.  Yes ormus has many good qualities.  For me I've been taking the stuff that Don Nance makes.  I'm currently taking his gold ormus "the golden tear" and so far I have noticed some things but not big changes like when I first started... although I would wish to keep on going for like a year and so on but I've havent been able to take it concecutively.  But Now I'm going to stick to it.  Even before this supply runs out I'm going to be ordering more.  Normally you... well I notice some ESP changes after about 2 months and so far I dont think it has been but there have been a few changes that have been happening.  Also I've started another practice called "Sungazing"

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[Rob]

Hey
well actually, my grandad is not better, not in the typical sense of the word anyway....the effects I mentioned were ones I noticed in me after I snagged a few spoonfuls![] - Oh the stuff we were trying was umm ocean alchemy great lakes stuff I think, high in rh and ir.
Don Nance....name sounds VERY familiar. I think he's on the ORMUS discussion list. A good list btw if you aint already on it! Barry runs it.
Well hey, sounds like you like the stuff then! I really should order me some....

whoa! Sungazing - you do that???!!!! Like that guy NASA supposedly looked into who stared at the sun instead of eating??! Do go on!!! Lets hear allll about it!!!

thanks for the reply and info,
Rob

[Nightwolf]

Hmmm whats wrong with yer grandad?  Ormus doesnt fix everything although its deffinately a health booster, and gives who ever takes it more awarness.

Oh btw Don Nance is the alchemist behind Ocean Alchemy []

Well, currently as I told you I'm taking the The Golden Tear.  And so far I'm starting to understand the inner workings of connection.  I'm begining to think in that way more and being able to feel it.

On to Sungazing [] Well currently i'm up to 3:30 and its going good I do have accounts in 2 places where I knew I was on the right path.  One time I had a headache before it was noon (I do my sungazing in the Noon time) and I took an Alieve and it made it stop hurting but you know those times where it doesnt take it away and you can still feel it there nagging in the back of your mind?  It was like that.  And when I did my sungazing it got rid of it completely.  And the other time it showed me that I was on the right path.  Was when I was in Yosemite and I was on hike trail, and we were going to a fallen great red wood where you can climb in it and all.  And on my way back I was feeling quite exhausted and hungry.  So I stopped by the side and I held on to a tree with my hands (ground energy) and gazed at the sun for I would a sume would be about 1:30 although I didnt have a stop watch with me at the time.  And once I finished it I had alot more energy and my hunger had died down to almost a nagging little thing instead of a NEED for food.  So those are the 2 moments that showed me that sungazing was working for me. [|)]

But one thing I'm not trying to get anyone to do anything here so if you wish to its your choice. []

[|)]

PS. I have been on that email for for a very long time... I'd say aproximately more than 3-4 maybe more years.  Dunno exactly []

[Rob]

Hey - sorry for the delay in replying I've been on holiday sailing round majorca and other nearby island aaahh hard life....[]

anyhoo....my grandad, well he had alzheimers, but died a while back. Well, he is free now, which is a blessing.

quote:Oh btw Don Nance is the alchemist behind Ocean Alchemy

aha!!! that would be why he sounded familiar lol...yeah I am confident in that guy, will buy more from him.

The sungazing - sounds interesting, but you are still have to eat right? Oh well, maybe it just takes practise eh? But how do you stop your eyes from burning and going blind??? Mad..

Hey you interested in any other fringey science stuff? I just got a load of books from keelynet.com, bloody brilliant I must say. One bloke is using a modern aether theory and applying fluid dynamics to it, and been able to derive both einsteins famous e=mc(2) AND plancks equation amongst other things...!!!!!...impressive to say the least (not got the book around at the moment though). Then there are a couple of free energy motors I now understand the principles of, can elaborate if you're interested.

quote:PS. I have been on that email for for a very long time... I'd say aproximately more than 3-4 maybe more years. Dunno exactly

hehe you're well ahead of me then! But I gotta admit I dont really read all the mails any more....or close - there are so damn many of them!! But when I have the time I'll go through and have a looksey. I have some gold leaf my dad brought back from poland, in vodka, in a little round glass container, perfect for ormus experiments!! You tried any of that pyramid stuff?? I actually mailed on the list when I first got on about a big orgonite pyrmaid with all great pyramid dims, powerful device but a bit.....weird

Anyway I gotta rush to go to my bros graduation ceremony.....

quote:But one thing I'm not trying to get anyone to do anything here so if you wish to its your choice

haha dont worry you dont have to disclaimer yourself!! []

Rob

[Nightwolf]

quote:The sungazing - sounds interesting, but you are still have to eat right? Oh well, maybe it just takes practise eh? But how do you stop your eyes from burning and going blind??? Mad..

I'm actually taking a break from Sun Gazing currently I have found out that with the trees in the way and the houses too and the mountain I really cant find a place to do it within the half hour safety zone... Besides I'm going to move soon too.  So []

quote:hehe you're well ahead of me then! But I gotta admit I dont really read all the mails any more....or close - there are so damn many of them!! But when I have the time I'll go through and have a looksey. I have some gold leaf my dad brought back from poland, in vodka, in a little round glass container, perfect for ormus experiments!! You tried any of that pyramid stuff??

Hehe yeah... you know you've been there long when realize that most of the stuff that has been said is being re-said.

quote:Hey you interested in any other fringey science stuff? I just got a load of books from keelynet.com, bloody brilliant I must say. One bloke is using a modern aether theory and applying fluid dynamics to it, and been able to derive both einsteins famous e=mc(2) AND plancks equation amongst other things...!!!!!...impressive to say the least (not got the book around at the moment though). Then there are a couple of free energy motors I now understand the principles of, can elaborate if you're interested.

THAT is verry impressive I love other fringey science thingys It absolutesly facinates me plus with the old sciences of the ages.  Could you tell me more on that and also show me a link to it that would be great!  That sounds too cool!  So with this divice he is able to use matter for energy... amazing.  It was stated that a sandwhich could run New York City for a day I think... I dunno saw that program a while back. [:I]

Anywho, all the usuals [] and dont hurt me [B)]
Nightwolf

[Rob]

Hey again!

quote:
THAT is verry impressive I love other fringey science thingys It absolutesly facinates me plus with the old sciences of the ages. Could you tell me more on that and also show me a link to it that would be great! That sounds too cool! So with this divice he is able to use matter for energy... amazing. It was stated that a sandwhich could run New York City for a day I think... I dunno saw that program a while back.

Well now!!! Yes keelynet.com is a good good place to look around. Articles by Dan Davidson are good - http://www.keelynet.com/davidson.htm eg "free energy, gravity and the aether" look into some stuff which the book "shape power" covers in more detail. He's the guy who was deriving the plethora of equations from aether theory - no no working models which convert matter into energy that he talks about anyway! But he does go into this as possible. By creating standing waves in water (about 41.5-42kHz if I remember right - sonic waves) it can be made to "aetherise" - keely was the first bloke to do this but the experiments have been confirmed. Lol what precisely happens is the mass is turned directly and suddenly into water, then shoots out the top of the tube (quartz is used) (looks like it just vanishes) boring a hole through any matter it comes into contact with. A poor mans railgun perhaps?? But there are ways to do this without the catestrophic and sudden breakdown. I have a photo on my comp from a friend of a friend, you can see bubbles in a tube of water - hydrogen bubbles (and presumbably oxygen too). Resonance breakdown at lower than the standard energies and stuff, therefore allowing over-unity (more energy out than in).

OK, I was about to go into another electrical FE design, but am thinking about it I have questions. I will mail jerry decker at keelynet, see what he thinks....basically its all about using capacitors and back emf from electromagnets, but also using the electromagnet to power a spinning device. I think there may be two overunity mechanisms going on....hhmm

quote:
Anywho, all the usuals  and dont hurt me

Meh???

laters!

Rob

[Rob]

Aha yes now the free energy electrical concept. I just needed to have another look at the book in the end []
OK you have a capacitor, then an electromagnet, then another capacitor. If you start with one charged, current will even between the two caps at first - but cos its passing through an electromagnet it creates an electromagnetic field. When current stops flows as the caps have evened out the charge the field collapses and the back emf ramms the rest of the charge from the first cap into the second one. End result is the mirror image of what you started with - the second cap has all the charge, with very little in the way of losses.
Now, if you want to create free charge, and hence free energy, all you need to do is be a little cunning and kinda break the circuit half way between, and have a rectified diode there with it. That way, once the charge has evened itself out between capacitors, the field collapses but this time its taking the easiest route - which happens to be the one (break and diode) without the first capacitor on it. End results the first cap is at 50% initial charge but the second one is at 100% charge. Get it???!! Its easier with an electrical circuit infront of you.....
Anyway that is the primary mechanism. To make anything useful from it you need a sly way to shuttle charge back and forth, or use an actual mechanical spinning wheel which is powered by the brief electromagnets field spike, and also you can use that spinning wheel to time the shuttling of charge between the capacitors.
Lol you really need to get the keelynet book "free energy and high voltage something" (err not sure name right now is downstairs!) by george moonhie. Top quality!
Another fe mechanism involves permanent magnets (one with collapsing the field into a piece of iron between two magnets then removing the iron and watching the magnets sping apart with a sacrifice of only 1/6th energy to remove the iron - sounds simple though, need to test it. Another uses a rotational aspects to permanent magnets which not very many people at all know about - sshhhh!!! [8D])
mebbe i can provide you with the relevant circuit later, but not now, I need bed!

adios

Rob

[Nightwolf]

Cool ... Makes me want to know what your talking about I'm an amature ... well more like novice ...  less than that actually hehe.  But I am quite intereseted in learning those things I know that capacitors hold energy... thats about it.  I know what a diode is but I forgot if I recall they would lite up when current went through them.  I am learning about alchemy too.  So there is a lot of info out there.

quote:Well now!!! Yes keelynet.com is a good good place to look around. Articles by Dan Davidson are good - http://www.keelynet.com/davidson.htm eg "free energy, gravity and the aether" look into some stuff which the book "shape power" covers in more detail. He's the guy who was deriving the plethora of equations from aether theory - no no working models which convert matter into energy that he talks about anyway! But he does go into this as possible. By creating standing waves in water (about 41.5-42kHz if I remember right - sonic waves) it can be made to "aetherise" - keely was the first bloke to do this but the experiments have been confirmed. Lol what precisely happens is the mass is turned directly and suddenly into water, then shoots out the top of the tube (quartz is used) (looks like it just vanishes) boring a hole through any matter it comes into contact with. A poor mans railgun perhaps?? But there are ways to do this without the catestrophic and sudden breakdown. I have a photo on my comp from a friend of a friend, you can see bubbles in a tube of water - hydrogen bubbles (and presumbably oxygen too). Resonance breakdown at lower than the standard energies and stuff, therefore allowing over-unity (more energy out than in).

OK, I was about to go into another electrical FE design, but am thinking about it I have questions. I will mail jerry decker at keelynet, see what he thinks....basically its all about using capacitors and back emf from electromagnets, but also using the electromagnet to power a spinning device. I think there may be two overunity mechanisms going on....hhmm

Thanks for the link Will look into it.

I looked in your profile and saw that you use AIM do ya still use it... and that you play games what games do you play?

Sincerely,
Nightwolf

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[Rob]

Capacitors store energy (and can be used to buffer energy spikes). They release the energy VERY quickly when the pressure's taken off as one short pulse. Electromagnets build an electromagnetic field when current runs through them, when the current ceases the field collapses, causing an equal current to flow in the same direction as the first (called "back emf" and is something electrical engineers generally try to avoid....sigh!). A rectifier diode only allows current to flow one way through it - I think you are thinking of an LED or Light Emitting Diode.
Well, I dont know much about electronics either! I prefer to learn what I need when I need it.
Alchemy! Nice! Did you see that oil of iron post on the ormus newsgroup the other day? I think I'm going to send that to a chemistry student friend, see what he makes of it.

"I looked in your profile and saw that you use AIM do ya still use it"
Yeah, well, actually I use trillian which allows me to connect to all the networks and the software is, on the whole, much much better. But I am in yorkshire at the moment, at my parents place, so not able to get to my comp which has all that stuff on it.....should be back to place around uni in a month or two.

"and that you play games what games do you play?"

ACTION QUAKE 2!!!!!!!! ROCKS!!!!!!!! Tehehehehe......quite retro but oh so much fun. I map a bit too. Dont tend to go in for stealthy games - just give me a big gun and let me run!
Also play some c&c generals, ummm.....quake 3, unreal tournament, halo.....generally first person shooters (FAST ones!) and strategy, maybe driving games too but rarely. PC gamer.

You???

Rob

[Nightwolf]

Ahh yess... thats what it was... I still have a small kit on electronics hehe.  Hmm you over there? I live in Cal.

quote:Alchemy! Nice! Did you see that oil of iron post on the ormus newsgroup the other day? I think I'm going to send that to a chemistry student friend, see what he makes of it.

Ya got my interest with this... where did ya see this... which newsgroup? In yahoo, mail?  Sounds very interesting []

I mainly play Battlefield 1982 and the DC mod Tis GOooood!

Have you read the book of "A Rosicrucian Notebook ~by Willy Schrodter"?

[|)]

Sincerely,
Nightwolf

[Rob]

hullo again!

the bit on the oil of iron was on the ormus workgroup I think, probably a week or so ago now. I think that post had that as its name.

"Have you read the book of "A Rosicrucian Notebook ~by Willy Schrodter"?"

Noo, infact - I have never even heard of it! Rosicrucians?? Sounds dodgy.... Yes, I know who they are! Kinda []

"I live in Cal."

damn you and your sunny weather!!!!!!!!!

Rob

[Nightwolf]

O.R.M.E. (Oribitally Rearanging Monoatomic Elements)  If you guys are seriously trying to explain all this stuff with science Ormus is a great place to start its a new form of matter recently discovered by David Hudson. [|)]