i have been trying to open my third eye for exactly 4 years and 3 months now and i have tried everything: ive meditated for hours, i listened to brain wave frequencies also for hours,I've fasted, researched, prayed, contacted priest and shaman alike and many other methods and in all of them 4 years my third eye has continued to fail opening. i posted this here because i am beginning to become desperate. i have a whole literal library of research ive done my whole life on any and all things related to spirituality and if i cant experience it then i may just go mad, for i have lived my whole life doing nothing but this
Your expectations may be another's interpretation.
Perhaps this is the problem and your looking at it from their perspective.
The amount of 'how to do it' is large. What works for you may have already worked and needs development.
I'm not one for the third eye theme. I have known things outside of the physical senses all my life.
What are your expectations?
Knowing this may help find an answer to your dilemma.
o.0 wow, im usually an open minded person but, the idea of the third eye as possibly false never occurred to me. hmm... this changes alot i will do more research on this as you've opened the only door that i did not. i thank you. you helped my mind expand even further
Quote from: The_Theosophist on November 13, 2013, 09:02:30
i have been trying to open my third eye for exactly 4 years and 3 months now and i have tried everything: ive meditated for hours, i listened to brain wave frequencies also for hours,I've fasted, researched, prayed, contacted priest and shaman alike and many other methods and in all of them 4 years my third eye has continued to fail opening. i posted this here because i am beginning to become desperate. i have a whole literal library of research ive done my whole life on any and all things related to spirituality and if i cant experience it then i may just go mad, for i have lived my whole life doing nothing but this
When you say 'opening the third eye', what do you mean? Becoming clairvoyant, or something totally different?
Although I do not disbelieve the idea of 'third eye' (we do have one inside our heads, it's called the pineal gland, and it is built like an eye), I think that different groups mean different things when they speak about 'opening the third eye.'
I consider this 'being able to become clairvoyant', and clairvoyant does not mean 'psychic' (a catch-all meaningless term), but 'being able to see pictures in front of your closed eyes'. This is achieved with meditation and in my opinion, energy work- but it doesn't 'make you clairvoyant', simply able to see clairvoyant images. Unless it's your 'forte', then it will definitely help you become clairvoyant.
So, what exactly are you expecting, and what are you doing (with specifics) to make it happen?
so the theory you propose Traveler is that the third eye is the means we use to see things that are not "PHYSICALLY" there? hmm... well... both interesting theory's... hmm... IVE GOT IT!! thanks to BOTH of you Traveler if what you say rings true then my ideal of the third eye has been extremely misled GAH i should have seen it! i found a while back the the pineal gland is A: built with retinal tissue as you mentioned and B: it releases Melatonin which has a history of increasing vivid dreaming or otherwise 'projecting into sight' so to speak
this could also drop into my theory of the astral world and the physical plane at another time
again thank you
4 years wasted? no, i learned a lot from it that will aid me in further research and endeavors
I think the best way for you is to get a spiritual GURU
I really suggest that you are reading this website
www.spiritualresearchfoundation.org
or follow the teaching of Sri Sri Ravi Shankar
Quote from: The_Theosophist on November 15, 2013, 05:06:02
so the theory you propose Traveler is that the third eye is the means we use to see things that are not "PHYSICALLY" there?
Not at all. I said that clairvoyance is the ability to imagine. I also said that there are countless theories as to what the 'third eye' is, driven by the fact that we have a pineal gland, which is in fact a 'third eye'. So it has something to do with visual information, but what I don't know.
Time spent learning is never wasted.
The third eye is a real eye, just like the two eyes that you've been using since you were born. Most people fail to understand this. The third eye is an extension of your body. Even after opening it, you must learn how to use it. So for all you know, your eye is already opened. You just need to figure out how to use it, and how to see through it. If that's the case, then trying to open it when that has already been done will probably not get you anywhere further.
Another misconception is that you need to "open" anything.
Everything is already "open". That's not the issue.
Realize what people are asking when they're referring to this concept.
They're trying to get psychic abilities and such. You only need to become aware of what you're already receiving.
Also, this talk of chakras this and chakras that... it's all metaphors. None of this stuff OBJECTIVELY exists. You don't REALLY have a physical body. You're not REALLY experiencing a physical reality with that physical body. So if you don't have a physical body in a physical reality... what is a chakra? Absolutely nothing but a metaphor describing something intangible.
Quote from: Xanth on May 17, 2014, 21:50:57
Another misconception is that you need to "open" anything.
Everything is already "open". That's not the issue.
Realize what people are asking when they're referring to this concept.
They're trying to get psychic abilities and such. You only need to become aware of what you're already receiving.
Also, this talk of chakras this and chakras that... it's all metaphors. None of this stuff OBJECTIVELY exists. You don't REALLY have a physical body. You're not REALLY experiencing a physical reality with that physical body. So if you don't have a physical body in a physical reality... what is a chakra? Absolutely nothing but a metaphor describing something intangible.
Would you then say that energy is nothing but a metaphor?
Quote from: AAAAAAAA on May 17, 2014, 21:55:56
Would you then say that energy is nothing but a metaphor?
I would.
"Energy" is the metaphor we use for that "thing" that effects change.
When someone asks for healing... we say we "send them energy"... because our human minds need something that *acts* on something else. It's just something we've learned as humans.
Although, through learning to control and initiate your Intent, you can actually do away with all of that... and just begin the act of "doing", instead of requiring something like "energy".
It almost sounds like in your obsession with finding it it could have happened already and in your brutal unawareness haven't realised .. I also recommend "The Intuitive Way" by Penny Pierce :)
I'm somewhat uncertain as to what the function of this third eye is.
Do you mean visualizing something like the mind's eye?
Or like seeing what we can't in the physical?
Since this is the spiritual progression sub forum I guess it's the latter...
I have been on a quest for about 7 months now to dramatically harness my mind's eye and I could share some pretty good ideas you might not have considered if that is what you're talking about...
If the 3rd eye is for seeing the non physical then have you considered just staring at your hand with unfocused eyes? My pops taught me that you can see your astral body/energy,etc. around and extending from your fingers that way.
Quote from: ukrainflyer on July 24, 2014, 05:27:37
I'm somewhat uncertain as to what the function of this third eye is.
Do you mean visualizing something like the mind's eye?
Or like seeing what we can't in the physical?
Since this is the spiritual progression sub forum I guess it's the latter...
I have been on a quest for about 7 months now to dramatically harness my mind's eye and I could share some pretty good ideas you might not have considered if that is what you're talking about...
If the 3rd eye is for seeing the non physical then have you considered just staring at your hand with unfocused eyes? My pops taught me that you can see your astral body/energy,etc. around and extending from your fingers that way.
The function of this third eye is to give you little perks. Small benefits like being able to see auras better. Things like that. Your third eye is probably more useful in the astral.
Okay. My experience with the clairvoyance and clairaudience is that it is preceived by me as being sight and sound.
My belief is that sight is the same essentially as phasing but only in degree of involvment.
THe question is how are you spiritually? Edgar Cayce who is one of the best medical intuitives that ever lived said that your closeness to God however you see him/her is what gives you sight. Your a spirit of course you can see. The ability is called the third eye in eastern thought and the association with the pineal gland modern and possibly accurate. but that is more a like a seed that you need to grow and nurture. You don't get fruit until the plant is mature.
So how does it happen? meditate pray get closer to the Source. Phasing; focusing inward moving your focus away from the physical towards the spirital. It's not natural to everyone. You may be talking years before you get anywhere with this. There are no shortcuts sometimes a book or person will say something that will help break through obstacles but even once your connected with your sight you have to learn to use it. ... just like a blind person has to learn to use their eyes.
Golden Dawn and Benjamin Rowe started with imagination in developing sight. I tried that and didn't have much luck with it. I think Cayce's way works better for me but if you read a short course on scrying which is here some people have had good luck with it. But you need to understand the psychic ability is not the same as imagination. the inward speaking and seeing is a start but it is not the full and perfect development of the ability.
THe article is here I recommended it before but it's buied somewhere http://hermetic.com/norton/ashort.htm
The third eye is a bugger, Some people really see it as if you open it while your eyes are closed all suddenly you see everything in front of you.
How I see it theses days is just a way to imagine things.
How my third eye works is, it analyze everything it sees just like a spy.
It figures out anything that could happen in any situations.
It's always opened.
It would analyze every gesture that someone can do and then make a spiritual profile of them.
It is infinitely imaginative.
The third eye is a way to see things differently around you.
It contacts the spirit directly and tells you what it sees, you are free to listen to whatever it says(describe or make you feel).
Unleash the mobile forces of the astral body, raise the inner light fire, watch the spiraling mists of eternity dance upon your visualizer, and then crystallize into the expanse of lucidity.
Do know its impossible to achieve something that is not real, I mean if you follow guidelines that you read out of a book that were, A) made up, and B) intentionally designed to string you along so you keep reading and keep buying$$ more books by the author than you're bound to get a little frustrated.
If you sit in meditation and try to force that "third eye" open, I guarantee that nothing will ever happen.
My first recommendation is you ask yourself what it is that you really want out of your mind and then take the necessary steps to achieve it.