What is "The Light" from NDE's?

[Aaron330]

Went through a phase about 6 months ago where I looked up every NDE account there was on youtube, read every book I could find from Nanci Danison, Eben Alexander and many more. If anyone has watched an NDE video such as on this youtube account https://www.youtube.com/user/NDEaccounts or on NDERF.org then you know very well that just about 98% of them talk about meeting "The Light" which is similar to what we would call "God". They always talk about this "Light" being overwhelmingly loving and completely non-judgmental. This was very comforting to me as I have grown up Christian but was starting to doubt if there was any kind of "God" or deeper meaning to the universe at all.

So anyway, I'd just like to hear your opinions on what you think this Light is? Many NDE'rs describe it also as "Prime Creator" or "The Source". Nanci Danison refers to it as "Source" and gives the idea that it is basically the total collective consciousness of everything, which is able to simultaneously appear as One great entity and split itself up into a "bajillion" different pieces in which to experience this vast multiverse it (we) has created. I guess I believe that we are all apart of this "Source" who is experiencing reality in and through us, while remaning One at the same time. I'd like to hear some dialogue on this so I can get my thoughts straight on it. Has anyone experienced anything in the Astral that could help answer this question perhaps?

[soarin12]

I've had several experiences with God/Source, only one of which he spoke to me in words. -That one I'll keep private.  Words can't describe these experiences but this is how I would try.

completely humbling, overwhelming love, bliss    An all knowing-ness    I was one with God    Experienced everything from God's perspective

Some say that God's love/energy is impersonal.  I wholeheartedly disagree with this.  I found God to be not only infinitely bigger or vaster than anything in the human experience, but on the other side of the coin, God knows everything we are going through as humans and has ultimate tenderness and compassion for us in all that we go through.  He/she is just as involved in the 'details' as you ask or expect.

There is a song called 'whatever you need...God is' I remember from years back.  I find that to be absolutely true.

I was completely changed from my experiences.  For weeks after I was humble and loving to everyone I saw.  -Just a fraction of how much God had loved me, but it was all the love my human body would contain.  I had the desire to keep treating people in that humble/loving/ nonjudgmental way, even when the feelings dissipated.

I also lost all fear and worry -most of that was gone for good.  I had a knowing that everything is and would be OK, and what remains with me is a desire to love/do good.  The time is now.

[Szaxx]

It's as Soarin said.
When you connect to the source the mind cannot understand it. We need time to comprehend everything. The source is all time instantly.
Gold star to Soarin.

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I have also had several experiences with the source. Last time it happened I got a little too close and had to be carried out. I haven't seen any God. As far as I'm concerned, the source is just a thing that creates and destroys things. It is a special place, though. And I recommend traveling there when you can.

Also you don't have to have a near death experience either. You can travel to the source via the astral plane.

[Szaxx]

I have also had several experiences with the source. Last time it happened I got a little too close and had to be carried out.

That's sauce lol.
You've got a wicked sense of humour.

You don't possess any form even near the source.
Everything is in a mental form, the gained data has to be interpreted through time or it's totally beyond the human minds ability to comprehend.

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That's sauce lol.
You've got a wicked sense of humour.

You don't possess any form even near the source.
Everything is in a mental form, the gained data has to be interpreted through time or it's totally beyond the human minds ability to comprehend.

So you say.

[Xanth]

So you say.

He's providing you his perspective.  Not demanding you take it on as your own. 
So yes, so he says.  Kind of doesn't have to be said.  Everything said on this forum by anyone is merely an opinion shared.  I guess, sometimes, that needs to be reminded.  hehe

Although, for myself, I'm fairly certain that as long as you're analyzing your experiences with no bias (or at least very little... bias, I guess, is inevitable) and you allow what you experience to take you where ever it takes you... you will also come to the same conclusions that Szaxx has. 

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He's providing you his perspective.  Not demanding you take it on as your own. 
So yes, so he says.  Kind of doesn't have to be said.  Everything said on this forum by anyone is merely an opinion shared.  I guess, sometimes, that needs to be reminded.  hehe

Although, for myself, I'm fairly certain that as long as you're analyzing your experiences with no bias (or at least very little... bias, I guess, is inevitable) and you allow what you experience to take you where ever it takes you... you will also come to the same conclusions that Szaxx has. 

I haven't and won't. But I guess that is just my perspective. I travel to the source whenever I get the chance to.

[Xanth]

I haven't and won't. But I guess that is just my perspective. I travel to the source whenever I get the chance to.

And that is 1000% excellent too. 

[Szaxx]

It would be very interesting to know what you experience. I can only say what I've interpreted from my years of experiences. At your age they were different from what they are today.
What you see, feel etc. has changed as I understood it way back. At present I share Soarins viewpoint, there may be differences as we experience things based on our ability to understand from our knowledge base.
It's trying to find a general consensus so the target is easily identified for those wanting an experience close to the source.
The aim being to teach everyone.

Your input is appreciated.

[Aaron330]

I've had several experiences with God/Source, only one of which he spoke to me in words. -That one I'll keep private.  Words can't describe these experiences but this is how I would try.

completely humbling, overwhelming love, bliss    An all knowing-ness    I was one with God    Experienced everything from God's perspective

Some say that God's love/energy is impersonal.  I wholeheartedly disagree with this.  I found God to be not only infinitely bigger or vaster than anything in the human experience, but on the other side of the coin, God knows everything we are going through as humans and has ultimate tenderness and compassion for us in all that we go through.  He/she is just as involved in the 'details' as you ask or expect.

There is a song called 'whatever you need...God is' I remember from years back.  I find that to be absolutely true.

I was completely changed from my experiences.  For weeks after I was humble and loving to everyone I saw.  -Just a fraction of how much God had loved me, but it was all the love my human body would contain.  I had the desire to keep treating people in that humble/loving/ nonjudgmental way, even when the feelings dissipated.

I also lost all fear and worry -most of that was gone for good.  I had a knowing that everything is and would be OK, and what remains with me is a desire to love/do good.  The time is now.

Thank you for this, Soarin. I found myself comforted by a warm, loving feeling while thinking about God for the first time in a long time As I said in my OP, I grew up with a ferocious love for God and a desire to please him and know him beyond anything else. When I started questioning my faith alot of the belief in God went out the window because I just haven't known what to think. Atheism is usually not just a self-concluded belief that there is no God, but rather a fervent hope and desire that there really isn't one. I sort of became an atheist who fervently hoped the opposite.

I've never been attached to an idea of "God" as a humanoid figure or a political king/monarchical boss of the Universe. I don't need God to be a human or even have a physical form. But I need Him to be a real entity, who cares about us all personally and loves us beyond imagination. I need for Him to be good and desire good for everyone. And that's basically the God I see when I read about or listen to NDE accounts. Alot of NDE'rs describe how they talked to "The Light" and all, and then they'll say something like "but throughout my entire experience there, I never did see a "God" of any kind"... And I suppose that's because the view of God is so typically "the big boss man upstairs", and I am most definitely an atheist to that God. God to me has only ever meant the highest form of Goodness, Love and Infinite intelligence who is the prime creator of this entire reality we experience. Pretty much the entire reason I've gotten so into AP, is so that I can discover (and experience) the real God for myself and find the answers to the questions that have been plaguing my mind for so long.

All that to say, I am very inspired and comforted by what you wrote, so thank you again. I'd like to ask you some other questions about your experience(s) if you don't mind? Would you like me to PM them to you?

[Xanth]

It would be very interesting to know what you experience. I can only say what I've interpreted from my years of experiences. At your age they were different from what they are today.
What you see, feel etc. has changed as I understood it way back. At present I share Soarins viewpoint, there may be differences as we experience things based on our ability to understand from our knowledge base.
It's trying to find a general consensus so the target is easily identified for those wanting an experience close to the source.
The aim being to teach everyone.

Your input is appreciated.

There's also what I speak about in terms of "bias".

A lot of people come here after reading many books, articles, etc on the subject.  Their minds have already formed this belief of what they're going to experience (ie: "leaving" the "physical" body).
These people try so very hard to squish their experiences into one of the belief-boxes they've read about.  A lot of the time they succeed... but ONLY by ignoring a large portion of their experience.

This is why going at this from a bias-less perspective is paramount.

[Szaxx]

I can't agree more, I've learned from fifty years of experiences, the only book bought covered what I was experiencing while less than 9 years old.
The rest is open minded experiences.
I've read on this subject for the last 3 years and some of the info is BS.
The perpetrators have never experienced toast, everything else is copied out of context as no experiential reference is available. There are some authors with real experiential references, we know who these are.
It's unfortunately this BS that forces bias to prevent some practitioners from any success because of 'excess baggage' and false beliefs.
As a physical world example,
To go shopping for food you must wear your bio hazard suit and take you private army with you. There's baddies out there that'll get you if you don't.

What a load of tosh. 

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I share the belief that I leave a physical body, and I don't ignore any of my experiences yet I still succeed in doing what it is that I want to do when I travel in the astral plane. Kind of irrelevant, but I also don't read a lot. My teachers teach me.

[Szaxx]

That's exactly how I saw it too, at 5 years old I went to bed and later floated up when the room lit up while going to sleep.
I don't today and haven't for decades...
This is the difference we are looking for, once the various types of experiences are known a chart of sorts can be made and depending upon your experiences a correct direction can be construed and the resultant info can guide anyone to experience the white light of the source.

[soarin12]

Thank you for this, Soarin. I found myself comforted by a warm, loving feeling while thinking about God for the first time in a long time As I said in my OP, I grew up with a ferocious love for God and a desire to please him and know him beyond anything else. When I started questioning my faith alot of the belief in God went out the window because I just haven't known what to think. Atheism is usually not just a self-concluded belief that there is no God, but rather a fervent hope and desire that there really isn't one. I sort of became an atheist who fervently hoped the opposite.

I've never been attached to an idea of "God" as a humanoid figure or a political king/monarchical boss of the Universe. I don't need God to be a human or even have a physical form. But I need Him to be a real entity, who cares about us all personally and loves us beyond imagination. I need for Him to be good and desire good for everyone. And that's basically the God I see when I read about or listen to NDE accounts. Alot of NDE'rs describe how they talked to "The Light" and all, and then they'll say something like "but throughout my entire experience there, I never did see a "God" of any kind"... And I suppose that's because the view of God is so typically "the big boss man upstairs", and I am most definitely an atheist to that God. God to me has only ever meant the highest form of Goodness, Love and Infinite intelligence who is the prime creator of this entire reality we experience. Pretty much the entire reason I've gotten so into AP, is so that I can discover (and experience) the real God for myself and find the answers to the questions that have been plaguing my mind for so long.

All that to say, I am very inspired and comforted by what you wrote, so thank you again. I'd like to ask you some other questions about your experience(s) if you don't mind? Would you like me to PM them to you?

I'm glad it comforted you Aaron.  Yes, the 'big boss man in the sky'  -a human creation.  The few NDErs that have that experience are the ones who seem to have the very strict belief systems along those lines.  Please feel free to PM me any time!