I need your help.

[KentuckyRose]

A friend of mine is having a very hard time right now. He says he used to be in contact with his 'higher energies' and even felt he lived in a higher realm. Now, his contact is gone and he is in a deep depression. He feels he isn't even fully incarnated in his body and feels cramped. He has strange symptoms and feels cramped in his body. He feels intense pressure in his head.

I have read about ascension and the symptoms that go along with it and I don't know if this is what he is experiencing or not. What I am here for is this: does anyone know how this man can get relief? He has expressed to me that he doesn't want to be here anymore and I am concerned for him. He is just miserable with all these weird symptoms and I am trying to help him. If anyone has any idea on what I can relate to him, please post.

Thank you.
Kentucky Rose

[James S]

Hi Kentucky Rose,

Seeking answers to probles such as this on the internet is most likely going to provide you with nothing much more than confusing and conflicting information.

There could be a number of reasons why your friend feels this way, and without seeing him, speaking to him or feeling his energies directly, it would be near on impossible to make any kind of diagnosis. In fact I would even say that it could be dangerous to take advice from members of an internet forum who don't know the full story.

My best suggestion would be to get him along to a spiritual healer, such as a crystal healer or Reiki master, or even a spiritual counsellor of some kind. He needs to go to someone who has the skills and knowledge to see first hand what might be affecting him.

Kind regards,
James.

[KentuckyRose]

Hello James:

I agree James. I have been trying to get him to see a spiritual counselor but he is afraid and won't go. There is even a psychotherapist that deals with spiritual emergencies such as his that lives near him but he has too much fear to go see her.

Thank you for your reply.

Kentucky Rose

[Rastus]

I have been through physical Depression as well as Ascension symptoms.

Whether physical Depression, Dis-ease, Imabalance, or a Metaphysical condition (ascension) there are several things you can do to help.

First off, take care of yourself.  Since this is a friend (I assume not a live-in?) that usually isn't a problem.  You can't help someone when you are if you are in the same state as them.

Second off, be there for them.  Don't judge them (which goes without saying), everyone handles things differently.  I mean on the physical, mental, and spriritual level.  Sometimes that means cooking or cleaning for them.  Don't hound them about things like hygeine or sleep patterns.  Sometimes that means just 'being there' or listening to them.  On the spiritual level it gets trickier, but if you honestly care for them as a person, then you will be there in some spiritual form and they will know that.

If you can at all manage it, try and get them out into a quiet place.  I mean nature without any crowds.  If you are with them, then make sure you thorughts are clear as well.  Just a walk in the park or nature trails can help them ground out whatever is disturbing them.  Swimming is helpful (especially the ocean) but given that is seasonal dependent.

Don't try and push 'help' on them.  Being told you need to seek professional help is usually upsetting.  If you can get a healer to come over, that is helpful for diagnosing the condition.  But you can't force a healing (the healer can explain it).  You may be witnessing old thoughtforms 'burning off'.  It can be an interesting process     Or you may be witnessing some other dis-ease, it's hard to say since the symptoms are very similiar.

Just hold your friend in the light, it does help.

[Chimerae]

Carolyn Myss:  Spiritual Maddness.  It's been out awhile, so it's pretty easy to find a used copy cheap.

I'm not a Myss fan, but she talks about The Dark Night Of the Soul here in ways that people can access, understand, and make use of right in the middle of their biggest trouble.

I don't push it on people when they are in trouble, even though I do try to keep copies to loan out.  Instead, I tend to listen to it when someone close to me is in this space.  

Somehow, listening to the tape refreshes the "map out of the abyss" (how to grow through) in my awareness.  If I hold "the map" in my own awareness without really thinking about it, it helps them in ways I don't understand.

[Leo Volont]

Dear Kentucky,

This may seem like strange 'spiritual' advice, but you friend needs to back away for a time.  Everything is like breathing -- we breath in and then we breath out.  Now is the time for your friend to breath out -- to forget about spirituality for the time being and to reassert himself in the physical -- to 'ground' himself, so to speak.

The first practical thing he can do is to just concentrate on his tailbone, the lowest vertebre.  If he needs help, then tell him to simply drink a glass of water or whatever, and with each swallow, visualize the energies going down to that tailbone.  Reach behind and massage it a bit so he knows exactly where it is, and confine all energies to to just that little bone.

In the Spiritual Community what your friend is feeling is called "the Dark Night of the Soul".  It happens to everybody.  But being morose about it does not help.  So turn it to advantage... go out and so some other things that your Spirituality had otherwise prevented.   During my Dark Night, I took up motorcycle racing, and then long distance running.  I went from Spiritual Books to History and became a much more rounded a scholar.  Then, after a few years, I had a dream where Elijah of the Astral Cave of Prayer actually left the Cave and came looking for me.  He found me at a beautiful pond with flowers and tree all about, and my wonderful White Horse sleeping in a field of clover.  Elijah told me "you have rested long enough now", and he pointed to the ascending road.

Your friend needs to take his rest and relax.  Elijah will tell him when it is time again to apply himself.

[KentuckyRose]

Believe me, I am reviewing all of your suggestions.

I have since found out more information. It seems he is scared to open to the spiritual truth. He has spiritual information coming to him but he is scared to open to it and he feels he is losing his mind. He used to be quite religious and now he is feeling guilt about his Catholic upbringing.

I think the suggestion to let go of all of for the time being is a good one. Many years ago I had to do that for a year also.

Thanks everyone. Great forum here.

Kentucky Rose