Masturbation

[upstream]

please, don't do it until you check my calcualtions.
perhaps I put the decimal point in wrong place, and you have to produce only 12011 liter

[hannerl]

If you continue to "pull your rope you will become a "rope-a-dope".  Pun intended.

quote:Originally posted by __--nezabaleta--__

I've find that masturbation is a reliable way for to settle my physical body and have success in pulling the rope at least in hte first stages of dropping brainwaves to alpha state. I reachs, too, something like a perspective sensation (seed of "mind split effect"..?). Sensation wich I assumes as indicative of detachment but I try to ignore it, for don't to lost the thread of splitting process. Anyone have similar experiencies..?

[Psionic303]

According to Eastern thought and Taoism....when you masurbate you release vital energy called "jing". So in theory....I don't see how it would help you since you would be releasing vital energy that you might need to OBE. If anything...you should refrain from masturbating as long as possible to cultivate and build up energy. []

[FreeFaller]

this has got to be the grossest topic ...it wasnt that bad in the beginning it was logical and stuff and it was just a thought then it turns into like ....ugg ...but i agree mastrubation does calm you down..and who cares if you lose a precious energy... just gain alot through you energy source and use your own. plus it gets rid of thats songs that get stuck in your head

[Taalnar]

quote:To those who think this thread is too nasty, what did you expect in a thread about masturbation?

Agree entirely, that's why I wrote what I did.  If people are worried about losing energy they can either stop doing it or take the plan B route. I sort of said what I said in jest to make people stop and think what they are really worrying about and given the simple (of what I find logical) solution how silly it all sort of seems (to me anyways).  It seemed to me people were just trying to beat around the bush instead of looking at the real issue.

PS Beavis, should we market the product as something along the lines of "Spam in a Can" except changing the first word a little to something that sounds similar? []

PSS Protein contains 18kj/gram.  Just drink 100ml of low fat milk and you should get your energy and protein back.

[majour ka]

Yeah psionic, ive heard that theory, the shaolin monkes reckon knocking one out realses vital chee, as they call it. I know i fell pretty energised when im full of chee lol [^]

[KEN LONG]

Its a shame that my first post would be about something like this. Anyway it seems like its a crutch. You should be able to relax without it.

[des Jardins]

I think some credits must be given to nezabaleta.
As woman that I am, I have verified that orgasm sensations are like (but MORE stronger) to that derivative of body energy development exercises, when from the center sub-bellybutton I re-energize all the parts of my body.
When that occurs I've partial success in climbing the rope. By example, seeing trough eyelids and full viewing of aura are the two main sequels.
Natalia

[ady]

I have read all of the replies in this topic and was fascinated by the imagination and creativity of participating members concerning masturbation! lol
But lets not forget what this forum is all about I would say that the loss of energy (chi) during ejaculation, stimulates energy movement in the body and therefore can help in AP. The question of usability of this method depends on how much of it is left for the AP itself. -Andrei-

[Abbz_Bitch_2004]

That is totally GROSS 4 pages taken up about masterbation? Ain't you guys getting any or somat??

OHMIGOD![xx(][xx(][xx(][xx(]

TELL YOU WHAT I'LL GIVE YA ALL SOMAT TO FINK ABOUT WHILE YOU DO IT
AVRIL LAVINE LEZZIN OFF WID J.LO

[upstream]

J.Lo? hmm..yam..yam...thanks for the tip.

[des Jardins]

Although masturbation is nasty thing, I think nezabaleta (this topic's author) is partially right. Masturbation can works like a dinamo process leading to store a great amount of mental energy. Such a big amount of mental energy can be sublimated boosting the rope pulling mental work, avoiding subsequently the energy loss involved by the orgasm.
Natalia

[BlackBox]

Ady said: "But lets not forget what this forum is all about I would say that the loss of energy (chi) during ejaculation, stimulates energy movement in the body and therefore can help in AP."

Come again? How does losing chi stimulate energy-development?

Since abstaining from masterbation for the last month (to spite runlola), it was hard in the initial weeks, especially when a *&@#ing incubus made me have an unfortunate "accident". But I can certainly say that I am far more clear minded now for partaking in this "not-doing" exercise. I'm striding more towards sexual relations for the purpose of amplification of our electrical-vibrations (and expression of love -- of course...), rather than just hump-hump, wam-bam-thank-you-mam purposes. And I can only look at male-masterbation as an idiotic perverted past-time. Everything that favours it is rubbish. Female-masterbation on the other hand...hmmph. Art-nouveau? [8D] Seriously though, I don't think it is necessarily the same form of energy-depletion in the feminine aspect. This is because the woman is the bearer, the holder of energy rather than seeker. The male chi/essence is concentrated in our ejaculated semen (god, I can't believe this thread has led me to speak with no shame on this subject), and this is for the purpose of creating a friggin life-form. So it makes sense why energy is zipped into an export. I call male masterbation a perversion because I don't think it was ever intended for a man to sit or stand in any areas jerking Mr.One-Eyed-Magic-Johnson like a damn tire-pump. When we do it, we are taking advantage and manipulating ourselves, plain and simple. Yes, it may have relatively well-intended results due to lack of "getting-some" (build up stress/strain), but that doesn't make it reasonable for humanity to redefine the purpose of biology to claim it is natural. It isn't. But what IS natural in our society anyway? Masterbation is just another side-effect from a tweaked out world. If it was up to me, we'd all be running around naked playing "capture the flag" all-day. []

Anyways, with that said:

[Saints]

I've read that most of the fluid in semen is prostrate fluid - and that a research study in Australia showed that if you masterb a lot 1-2 times daily in during puberty and on-ward, you have a much lower risk of developing prostate cancer. Also, as you get into your 40-50s the level of sperm drops off dramatically and basically alls thats left is the prostate fluid.  If you don't get rid of it, you get inflamation and prostatitis and/or a swollen prostate, urinary retention and then you'll need surgery so you can peeeee and then you can cap it off with some cancer.  So u critics,...read up before you get to sanctamonious.  Mb may be the cure to prostate cancer.

quote:Originally posted by __--nezabaleta--__

I've find that masturbation is a reliable way for to settle my physical body and have success in pulling the rope at least in hte first stages of dropping brainwaves to alpha state. I reachs, too, something like a perspective sensation (seed of "mind split effect"..?). Sensation wich I assumes as indicative of detachment but I try to ignore it, for don't to lost the thread of splitting process. Anyone have similar experiencies..?

[The Maven]

Masturbation isn't that different from having sex when you think about it, and I don't believe that you lose any more mental energy than if you were watching a movie, all you really lose is physical energy. The health benefits are there, and men were obviously "designed" to regularly release some semen so you should jerk off if you're not having sex. You people aren't seriously suggesting that men shouldn't be jerking off, are you? I mean boys eventually find out about it naturally that's it's plesurable to play with their penis, and I believe they find out with or without any outside influence, so I would say that masturbation is just as natural as sex. Besides, if you aren't jerking off or having sex, your body will release semen while your sleeping eventually.

[Mystic Cloud]

quote:Originally posted by The Maven

 You people aren't seriously suggesting that men shouldn't be jerking off, are you? I mean boys eventually find out about it naturally that's it's plesurable to play with their penis, and I believe they find out with or without any outside influence, so I would say that masturbation is just as natural as sex.

Even badly disabled boys start doing this when they reach
the teens. It's not like THEY would get any external influence,
since they would never understand it anyway [|)]

[__--nezabaleta--__]

quote:Originally posted by des Jardins

Although masturbation is nasty thing, I think nezabaleta (this topic's author) is partially right. Masturbation can works like a dinamo process leading to store a great amount of mental energy. Such a big amount of mental energy can be sublimated boosting the rope pulling mental work, avoiding subsequently the energy loss involved by the orgasm.
Natalia

Hi, Natalia..!
Your approach is a very good assertion in pro of the benefits of masturbation. I think a thought form is created whilst masturbation act is in progress. Such a thought form can be used as reservoir of mental energy leading to an increase of pulling act efficiency. Then, is critical to avoid orgasm for to retain and use it. Keguel exercises are advised.
NEZabaleta

[upstream]

We could build up imaginations to prevent energy leackage. Think about the body centered thoroidal flow whhich is used as a general imagination in psyhic protection excercises.

You can recycle the toughtforms as well if you believe so, however, in theory, parasites could use these images to make themselves more appealing to you.

The real problem could be the overburning of the brain 5HT-, dopmaine- and noradrenaline system and the resulted depression.

[BlackBox]

Have any good links to websites describing the "Keguel Exercises"?

[__--nezabaleta--__]

quote:Originally posted by BlackBox

Have any good links to websites describing the "Keguel Exercises"?

Search at sites devoted to Tantra Yoga and ejaculation control techniques.

[GANAMOHA]

hahahhahahaha please forgive me i just find it funny on the subject that you guys have been talkin about for the last five pages i mean its important to talk about its just not your normal conversati0on if you know what i mean

example-[B)]-[][][]-[]-[8D] oh yeaaa! lol

[Jarthur]

This thread is hilarious. I just wanted to wish Beavis and Upstream success and prosperity in their new business venture.

[Jaclyn]

Who says women don't admit to masterbating?! I DO! [] In fact, last time I attempted to project (YESTERDAY) I did it, and was succesful!! [][][]  Whoever says masterbation is gross, I bet yer the biggest fan of it on these forums!! [] And also, whoever it was that said men shouldn't do it, and weren't meant to, that's bs. [] I don't think men could live w/o it, unless they're gay... maybe not even then...?? Welp sorry if I've offended anyone with my blunt post, but that's my views on the topic.

Everybody have a good day, and, guys,remember! Protect yourself against prostate cancer!!!!

[Nay]

Well, there is nothing wrong with discussing such things, if it can be done in a mature manner.  

In my opinion one doesn't need to tell others when they practice self love.[] Take you, Jaclyn, that was just too much information as far as I'm concerned.[xx(] YIKES!  

Nay

[BlackTalon]

Interesting subject...I remember when I was younger...where I'd masterbate quite often being a teen of course ...but a few times after the following day it would feel as though I was on the virge of ejaculation, everyone ever have that? it was strange but, kinda uncomfortable, the feeling was in between my belly button and my groin.