Masturbation

[Jaclyn]

Nay, LOL. Sorry 'bout that. I just don't find my post as bad as the ones tellin' people to eat their sperm. Now THAT was uncalled for. [xx(][]

[Astral-Jas]

Looks like I will be doing a "medical procedure to prevent prostate cancer" tonight [] Lmao

I agree jacklyn, people would just fall over and shrivle up if they didn't. And I realy don't believe your losing LARGE amounts of energy.

awe, to fun anyways....

[no_leaf_clover]

I've seen this topic on the Active Topics list for a while but never really bothered to read any of it until now. I noticed some things that were brought up but never really expanded up that much unless I skimmed a little too much, so here are some links.

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rodin/299/benefits/health%20benefits%20from%20swallowing%20semen%20or%20sperm.htm - Regarding benefits of semen consumption.

http://www.universityobgyn.com/kegal.htm - This is in response to somebody bringing up Kegel/Kegal excercises (there are apparently excercises for men too, but what can I say, I'm lazy.. just do a search on Google).

I also find a sort of calming effect afterwards, and I can also focus more clearly on things that I work on.

[Jaclyn]

WAIT wait wait.... so ya'll were SERIOUS about eatin the "twinkie cream"?!

[Nay]

*gag*

OK..please I'm begging ya, do not speak of such things on the forums.  Ya'll are more than welcome to speak about this "twinkie cream" (have to say, that made me chuckle though[^]) in PM's.  

And I do not want to get a lecture on how this is helpful and a valid conversation either.  Let's just keep the more graphic talk in PM's.

Thanks..

Nay

[andonitxo]

It's said in some mystical books that orgasm releases all those non integrated parts of the psyche.

On the other hand one of the facts, also pointed, is to cleanse and to command the astral body, in which desires (sexuals too) lay. To do so, sexual continence (to some level) and personality improvement are required.

In my own experience I have felt my visualization powers dropping down after ejaculation, not to speak of all that images, you have just used to excite yourself, wandering around your head.

My conclusion is that it's better to have a healthy sexual activity but taking in count not to starve your "mystical" powers due to it.

Greetings.

[Jaclyn]

Hah I've been trying to teach my buddy how to project for a long time now, and NOTHIN was workin so the other night I told him to masterbate be4 he tried and HE PROJECTED for like the third time in his life. So Masterbation=Good. [][][]

[aninfinity1717]

Dear Nezabaleta and my fellow masturbators,

I know that sometimes the need to masturbate is overwhelming. I feel you. We are creatures of flesh, with hormones, etc. However, with such powerful creative force, there is a higher responsiblity for understanding, because of the risks he encounters and the potentials he misses.

Maturbation has some side effects on the individual. It does split his mind (programmers and deprogrammers coin the word "dissociate"), put him in alpha state, and make him more susceptible to ELF and subtle suggestions from evil entities around (especially the serpent humanoids in lower astral). Too much masturbation can also imbalance your root chakra, making it too bright that the individual becomes very addicted (maybe indenial to this of course) and or easily angered. Masturbation is also used in mind control facilities as a tool.

But if you are talking about the astral realm, the sexually abused energy is currently being harvested by evil entities to change our world in their favor! Sex= Power in astral
That is, we dont know how to control the sexual energy.

However, there are some good aspects of masturbation. For one, masturbation prevents stagnancy, which affects the mental-physical-spiritual wellbeing. Celebricy weakens the individual, disguising itself as spiritual enlightenment. Second, although it is abused in sexual magick, one can manifest thoughts or wishes into physical reality by thinking of them at the moment of orgasm (especially when doing it with another who is thinking of the same thoughts).

Ever since the sexual revolution in our culture, many believe that "if it's good, do it." This really prevents them from discovering the spiritual truth of sex, that every position in copulation has a different meaning (sorry, the positions given in spiritual books were tainted by evil astral serpents since the days people say "gods"), and that we can use it as a tool to manifest wishes. We are being enslaved by sexual needs (continually fed by advertisement, etc.), tricked into creating children of the worker line (by being ignorant of the sexual positions and too imbalance at the root chakra that sexual attraction disceits us for true love), and into giving them more powers in changing our reality and consciousness (well, it is us who lets them).

So the bigger question is, are the majority of elites (President, congressmen.. ), really the ones who controlled the media, and so led us through this? Is it true that only people who were in certain fraternities or cults ( *A)have higher chances of obtaining the influential positions of our society? True that performing initiations, drinking blood and performing some rites in the fraternities/cults invite certain astral beings for permanent possession? If that's so, then the NWO does exist.... and the mostly, tall, ancient Serpents and Draconians (mothmen-looking with capes) are still lurking around... Do not think about them when entering the astral realm, or you will be in for a bad treat...

Conclusion. Thanks for reading.
ps. I hope my English didn't turn out too bad this time.
I'd say, spend your root chakra as fast as possible, but visualize its energy as only pale red (like kundalini white combined with some red). It's good, as long as it isn't bright red or another color.

*A
(such as the fraternity, the Bones and Skulls a.k.a Brotherhood of Death, which the Bushes and Kerry publicly admitted of membership [[ Yale University ]] )

quote:Originally posted by __--nezabaleta--__

I've find that masturbation is a reliable way for to settle my physical body and have success in pulling the rope at least in hte first stages of dropping brainwaves to alpha state. I reachs, too, something like a perspective sensation (seed of "mind split effect"..?). Sensation wich I assumes as indicative of detachment but I try to ignore it, for don't to lost the thread of splitting process. Anyone have similar experiencies..?

[aninfinity1717]

I agree with you, especially on the non-integrated part.

From my mindcontrol studies, I learned that performing sex with the other gender is the same as merging each others' non-integrated parts. One releases, as the other accepts, and vice versa. That's why (by account and by my suspection of these events) the elites always sent sex slaves to their fellows, to keep them in line. The sex slaves have programmes in them in which they would release, and they have been mind controlled into servicing only others and not themselves (their sexual sensation numbed, but their performing skills for it trained)

I hypothesize that, in becoming a night club swinger, he or she confuses the connection to God, because of confusing frequency imprints (too much non-integrated parts passed down unto him or her from many different people rather than one).

I hope I am understood; I keep thinking that my English is inefficient, or worse, illegible.

ps. contrary to your experience with sexual release, I find that it it is, for me, something to increase my visualization powers with for a few days.

quote:Originally posted by andonitxo

It's said in some mystical books that orgasm releases all those non integrated parts of the psyche.

On the other hand one of the facts, also pointed, is to cleanse and to command the astral body, in which desires (sexuals too) lay. To do so, sexual continence (to some level) and personality improvement are required.

In my own experience I have felt my visualization powers dropping down after ejaculation, not to speak of all that images, you have just used to excite yourself, wandering around your head.

My conclusion is that it's better to have a healthy sexual activity but taking in count not to starve your "mystical" powers due to it.

Greetings.

[aninfinity1717]

I'm only 10, what's a "twinkie cream?"

lol, no.. I'm not 10, but what does it mean?

[iadr]

Thank you everyone for your input into one of the most incredibly entertaining posts I've ever read.  I've been laughing for at least 10 minutes now.

My own feelings are that masterbation and sex are both good when done in moderation, which moderation will vary from one person to the next, depending on the persons age and their sex drive, with the best objective being to use it when needed, and not allow it to become a habit which takes up so much of the person time that it crowds into or inhibits the time they would be spending meditating.

Concerning those who would think it is beneficial spiritually to save ones semem, which I've not seen many in this forum who think that, ha ha, I would disagree, as at least for me it causes much more to be produced if I keep it flowing, in addition to keeping my organs healthy.  I agree with Jacyln on that, and congratulate her on her healthy attitude on this subject.

I have a feeling I'm going to really enjoy these forums.  Great to be here.

[upstream]

I can't believe that, Nay, you make my post with the hairy egg disappear! I forget the URL so I have to upload the picture.

Jaclyn, is your buddy something to do with RB's new book, 'masturbating astral projection?'

[Gandalf]

Ignore all the ingrained, puritanical, repressed, christian dogmatics concerning masterbation; if they have repressed issues with it, its their problem!

Masterbation is perfectly natural and in fact as medical science has shown, it is unhealthy to NOT vent your seed every day. If you have a partner then you can vent you seed this way (providing they have the time and/or will to participate) otherwise you have to do it yourself... nothing wrong in this and ignore those fools who say otherwise.
Ask any sociologist and/or biologist. masterbation is humanity's 'safety valve', without it we'd all go mad from sexual frustration and end up killing each other; if certain idiots wish to live in such a 'time bomb' society then could they please do so somewhere else! We don't need any more rapist on the streets!

To everyone else I say:
MASTERBATERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR SPERM!

MASTERBATERS!
THE CORPORATE WORLD SUPPORTS YOUR RIGHT TO MASTERBATE:
NIKE: JUST DO IT!
SAFEWAY: LIGHTNING THE LOAD!
MCDONALDS: I'M LOVIN IT!

[]

Douglas

[Nay]

quote:Originally posted by upstream

I can't believe that, Nay, you make my post with the hairy egg disappear! I forget the URL so I have to upload the picture.

Jaclyn, is your buddy something to do with RB's new book, 'masturbating astral projection?'

LOL.. Why must you assume I am the one to do it? [] I swear I didn't even see such a picture. *crosses heart*

Nay [] *I'm a bit curious now* []

[Nay]

quote:Originally posted by Gandalf

Ignore all the ingrained, puritanical, repressed, christian dogmatics concerning masterbation; if they have repressed issues with it, its their problem!

Masterbation is perfectly natural and in fact as medical science has shown, it is unhealthy to NOT vent your seed every day. If you have a partner then you can vent you seed this way (providing they have the time and/or will to participate) otherwise you have to do it yourself... nothing wrong in this and ignore those fools who say otherwise.
Ask any sociologist and/or biologist. masterbation is humanity's 'safety valve', without it we'd all go mad from sexual frustration and end up killing each other; if certain idiots wish to live in such a 'time bomb' society then could they please do so somewhere else! We don't need any more rapist on the streets!

To everyone else I say:
MASTERBATERS OF THE WORLD UNITE! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR SPERM!

MASTERBATERS!
THE CORPORATE WORLD SUPPORTS YOUR RIGHT TO MASTERBATE:
NIKE: JUST DO IT!
SAFEWAY: LIGHTNING THE LOAD!
MCDONALDS: I'M LOVIN IT!

[]

Douglas

Hehehehe..another funny one.[]

Just for the record... I have no problem with the subject in its self, but when you got people talking about when, where and why...that is just too much..[]  It could be just me, but when people speak or I read something that is being described, I always get a visual..[:O]  And those are just some visuals I could do without. [^]

Nay

[Jaclyn]

lol nay

lmao gandalf

lmfao!!! aninfinity (ask nay what twinkie cream is. shell be happy to explain it to ya. Right nay? lol)

upstream, I havent read any ap books.... i just told the guy to whack off be4 goin to sleep and it worked. Thats all I know. lol

[Hannah b]

This is to all the ladies in da house[}:)]:
Since we are made in a way that we don't really "loose" anything during masturbation, except maybe for energy...but..hmm..on the other hand I usually get an energy boost rather than the feeling of being drained afterwards...can we use masturbation as a method of raising our energy? I often work on making the sexual energy go somewhere higher in my body, usually my head..and it feels very different than just leaving the energy in the lower regions of your body.
I can't find my Tisha Abelar book (Carlos Castaneda's "student")...
Apart from the wonderful "recapitulation" exercise (in order to un-hook yourself from the sexual energy of your past partners) I think she had some interesting views on sexual energy raising or modyfying it into something more spiritual.
Any ideas?

[upstream]

Sorry Nay, but it was so Nayish. I can't believe that, EOL007, you make my post with the hairy egg disappear! I forget the URL so I have to upload the picture.


I've got an interesting idea couple of months before. We are told, we are having three energy storage centers and they corresponds with body cavities of the scull, the thorax and the pelvis. Energy saving sexual practices are supposed to transmuting energy between the pelvis and the scull by raising it through the central channel and chakras.

My hypothesis is that the most important biological aspects of the storage centers are same with the three main neurotransmitter pools: acetylkoline, noredraniline & serotonin. If this is true, science is your gimp now, Hannah.

I wouldnt be surprised if someone told me that one masturbation (I mean orgasm not ejaculation) is equivalent with one astral projection or a similar awkward ratio. In fact, masturbation deplete the brain's acethylcoline that required for building up the sufficient REM-force for SOREM. Also, serotonin pool would decrease by ejaculating (not orgasm) so the day-night alteration of awareness (daily alertness and ability for getting deep sleep) become irregular. As a result of serotonin depletion, death of every spiritual practice, depression would fall upon the practicioner.

Ability to regain awareness in sleep paralysis is associated with the middle storage center and not affected directly, I think. It is known that noradrenaline containing neurons in the locus coeruleus fire most frequently during waking, less during deep sleep, and are inactive during and before REM-sleep, but not much more. Irrational fears, sensed presence, rapid heartbeats are part of the effect that noradrenalin have on the brain (limbic system and symphatetic activation).

I might would further explore this possibilities by masturbating a lot and feeding back the results into the forum, hehe.

[__--nezabaleta--__]

I've find that masturbation is a reliable way for to settle my physical body and have success in pulling the rope at least in hte first stages of dropping brainwaves to alpha state. I reachs, too, something like a perspective sensation (seed of "mind split effect"..?). Sensation wich I assumes as indicative of detachment but I try to ignore it, for don't to lost the thread of splitting process. Anyone have similar experiencies..?

[aslegnat]

Very interesting... There are new forists and I want to know its opinions
Then, I'll pump up this forum...
ASLEGNAT

[Phantom Whispers]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!1!!1!11

*takes deep breath*

BWAHahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!1!1111!!!!!!


im going to experiment on this subject...  

[Stillwater]

Why doesn't this topic die? It returns intermittently every six months....
look at the post dates!

[Nay]

LOL..I'm just now seeing the "nayish" comment from upstream ..that was a good one, albeit a bit old for me to be now just seeing it.

A great example on how posts get over looked.

Actually StillWater, it used to come up more often than that..lol.  Funny to see it again though, thanks.

EDIT: sorry SW, I see that it was aslegnat that brought it up..

Nay

[€]

Hmmm... I don't know if it helps with astral projection, but I suppose if you don't use porn it's good visualizing practice...

[Phantom Whispers]