I just met my spirit helpers. I'm overwhelmed and humbled.

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Venus_Goddess_of_Love

My spirit guides, 5 of them, turned up around 40 mins ago, when I was half asleep and half awake.

My body vibrated before that, and I wished to have an OBE. Then the first one appeared, seemed to wrap himself in my bed sheet as he stood tall on the bed and looked down at me. I saw half his face and knew he was my helper. He was young. He had a knowing smile, sat next to me and held my hand, at my prompt, to reassure me. It was like he read my mind.  The next one came over as if to introduce himself and walked away. He had a lovely smile, smooth skin, bold head. He was wearing a Greek style cloth along one shoulder. The other three were coming down the stairs when I snapped back to this reality.

So overwhelmed. I cried tears of joy and can't stop thanking them. I needed the reassurance. Just had to share it with someone!

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Ok, so I had one day to digest this amazing experience. I now understand that my body vibrated involuntarily with external help. I tried to get out of my body but couldn't. So they came to me instead. I also understand my main guide was the first one who appeared and sat down next to me. The other one who greeted me was also a guide but probably not the main one. I think the other three who were coming down the stairs from an opening in my bedroom ceiling (!) were departed family members - two men and a lady, their mother. I didn't get a chance to see their faces or speak to them but could tell their gender from their clothes. I've been feeling very strange all day today, pulptation etc... something energetically different but can't really put my finger on it :)

Anyone had a similar experience?
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi


Venus_Goddess_of_Love

"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi

Szaxx

There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Rakkso


IsayWhaat

I wanted to meet my spirit guide(s) but was unable so far. I'm really happy that someone else succeded!  :-D


Szaxx

The wow factor is off the scale when you do. They know more about you than you do or so it seems and all those questions you form while physical melt into meaningless words.
It's 'rather pleasant' too. The OP says it all.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Venus_Goddess_of_Love

Quote from: Szaxx on August 28, 2015, 06:15:23
The wow factor is off the scale when you do. They know more about you than you do or so it seems and all those questions you form while physical melt into meaningless words.
It's 'rather pleasant' too. The OP says it all.

Spot on. Felt like a family visit. The smiles and unspoken understanding between us, and the love and care they showed me, were more than I've ever known. It was like 'we love you unconditionally, we are your true family'. Also, as I was "awake" I consciously asked to hold my guide's hand, esp as I had a bit of fear in me as it was a new experience... I deliberately noted the feel of his skin, and it was like human skin, warm and plump. I had a million questions but there was a lot going on so just took comfort that he was supporting me, and took my attention to the others.
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi

Venus_Goddess_of_Love

Quote from: IsayWhaat on August 27, 2015, 23:16:10
I wanted to meet my spirit guide(s) but was unable so far. I'm really happy that someone else succeded!  :-D



You will meet them! I asked so many times. You cannot imagine.... The few times I had contact in the past, either I couldn't see them (only feel them), or they take a friendly shape like a baby. Once I went to sleep, then woke up in the other world, to find myself being taught telekinesis by someone sitting in the dark. Couldn't see who it was. Another time I woke up in mid flight towards a light in a tunnel. I felt a presence, turned to my right and there was a baby! I thought that's not really a baby guiding me in a wormhole of some sort! Lol. Well this time, I saw half a face and held his hand. So that's progress! :-)
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi

IsayWhaat

Quote from: Venus_Goddess_of_Love on August 28, 2015, 20:42:05
You will meet them! I asked so many times. You cannot imagine.... The few times I had contact in the past, either I couldn't see them (only feel them), or they take a friendly shape like a baby. Once I went to sleep, then woke up in the other world, to find myself being taught telekinesis by someone sitting in the dark. Couldn't see who it was. Another time I woke up in mid flight towards a light in a tunnel. I felt a presence, turned to my right and there was a baby! I thought that's not really a baby guiding me in a wormhole of some sort! Lol. Well this time, I saw half a face and held his hand. So that's progress! :-)

I also asked so many times, almost ashamed how desperately it was, but I got nothing each time. When we are lucidly aware within non-physical isn't that ideal place and time for them to pop up?

You see, I messed up really hard. I had a simple fear and I allowed it to become phobia. Over the years it literally controlled (actually, still is) my life and it fuels my anxiety. Last couple of months it got worse. I carry this heavy dark sensation in my chest and cannot snap out of it. And that transfers to my non-physical experiences. Everytime I go to bed before midnight or somewhere before 3am, experiences get so bad I wake up in cold sweat. I don't remember them, but when I wake up the very thing I'm afraid of is happening. It throws my senses into dissarray everytime and there is no way out of. The only method that works is me staying up whole night, and sleeping during day. When sun starts rising around 4-5am is perfect time to go to bed. Now what it has to do with spirit guides? After I fall asleep again, I have negative experiences. I'm completely aware I'm dreaming and there is no possible thing that can harm me, but it is so damn strong. And I call out for help, but each time nothing.

Here's how it looked today. After I woke up at 3am it took me an hour and half to calm down and go back to sleep. It started really badly, am I dreaming, is it really happening, I don't know, but I was leaving my body. More like being ripped out of my body, half awake, half asleep, vibrations, paralysis all kicked at the same time. I let it happen, I tried to go with the process, but it felt so damn wrong. My sight was blurry. I couldn't see. I tried so hard to look without waking up and I saw fragments of places, like I was travelling somewhere. I have no idea what happened afterwards, but I got to that somewhere. I wasn't fully aware, but I was aware enough that I know I'm in a dream. And so it started. Shadows, things just started to come around me. It's night. I was really afraid and I usually seek exit by waking up, but I decided to face them this time. And so I fought. Literally fought. Swinging with my hands, legs, flying, throwing shiet to "kill them", but nothing worked. They kept coming, fear was all over me. At one point I was paralyzed by a fear. I screamed within me to move to fight. (It really felt like I was fighting for my life, gets really vivid). Eventually, I called out for my spirit guides. A simple help. Something, gosh anything would do. But once again I was all alone and when those things finally got me and killed me, I didn't wake up, I proceeded to have another dream. Different kind of situation, still same feelings tho. Why is fear controlling my life, I don't know. If you ask me what I'm afraid of, I won't be able to answer to you. I just am. I even stop for a moment in dream, trying to calm down, to smile, to change what is happening, I understand I cannot be harmed and yet no success.

When I first joined up I wanted to meet those spirit guides, well my spirit guides and inner self. I was so excited. So happy. Now as time passes, I'm losing will to meet them. I was alone, guess I still am. (not asking for sympathy). Maybe I'm being too childish, but if I meet them long after everything, I will honestly tell them to go screw themselves.




Venus_Goddess_of_Love

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Quote from: IsayWhaat on September 04, 2015, 14:52:10
When I first joined up I wanted to meet those spirit guides, well my spirit guides and inner self. I was so excited. So happy. Now as time passes, I'm losing will to meet them. I was alone, guess I still am. (not asking for sympathy). Maybe I'm being too childish, but if I meet them long after everything, I will honestly tell them to go screw themselves.

Hey @IsayWhaat, thanks for sharing. We all have fear of the unknown. It is human nature. We're just wired that way - for self-protection since we were toddlers. So don't beat yourself up.

A few comments on your story...
- our spirit guides are more evolved than us earthlings and have a higher purpose for us. It may seem sometimes that we've been abandoned (I certainly feel like that), but remember that we are here for a reason. We decided to come to earth to learn new things, overcome our fears, be more compassionate, realise our one-ness and evolve like everything else in the universe. So we can't expect our spirit helpers to pop round whenever we want. We need to be independent as much as possible. If they don't appear to you when you ask, don't think they're not listening. They want you to do your own research, and be proud that you did it 'all by yourself' even if you didn't.
- they're not humans and don't have human egos, so if you tell them to go screw themselves, they're not going to be offended or stay away from you. They understand why you're feeling that way and won't lash out. Save your energy.
- do some soul searching on why you feel this fear. Remember that you also have a higher self, which is a part of you that is more connected to higher astral planes, that you can always call on in such circumstances. Best way to connect is through meditation. Put aside some 'me time' and meditate with a candle and soothing music before you go to sleep. INTENTION IS KEY. When you meditate, 'intend' to sleep in peace, visualise meeting your guide, visualise yourself being content. EVERY ACTION STARTS WITH A THOUGHT. Control your thoughts and you will control your actions.
- you have full ownership and control of your energies, your thoughts and your body. Choose to keep it that way. Do not allow fear to take over. The beings that you feel or see around you may be fragments of your imagination, or real. I don't know. But they are only able to get to you because you're 'unconsciously' allowing fear to take over. Again meditation would help you control fear. Shower yourself with protective light, magnificent bright white healing light that fills every cell in your body. Believe that you are protected from any low vibration energies. Know, intend, decide.... Take control. If you haven't done this before, go join a meditation class. It's fun, and you will meet likeminds.
- try to have a positive state of mind, always (easier said than done, but possible). Consciously stop and say thanks to the universe, whenever things work out for you, however small. Energy acts like magnet. Positive attracts more positive. Whatever state of mind you are, the universe gives you more of it.
- finally, food for thought "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear"

Hope this helps.
Venus  :-D
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi

EscapeVelocity

Be yourself; everyone else is already taken.
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IsayWhaat

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Quote from: Venus_Goddess_of_Love on September 07, 2015, 22:38:29
Hey @IsayWhaat, thanks for sharing. We all have fear of the unknown. It is human nature. We're just wired that way - for self-protection since we were toddlers. So don't beat yourself up.

A few comments on your story...
- our spirit guides are more evolved than us earthlings and have a higher purpose for us. It may seem sometimes that we've been abandoned (I certainly feel like that), but remember that we are here for a reason. We decided to come to earth to learn new things, overcome our fears, be more compassionate, realise our one-ness and evolve like everything else in the universe. So we can't expect our spirit helpers to pop round whenever we want. We need to be independent as much as possible. If they don't appear to you when you ask, don't think they're not listening. They want you to do your own research, and be proud that you did it 'all by yourself' even if you didn't.
- they're not humans and don't have human egos, so if you tell them to go screw themselves, they're not going to be offended or stay away from you. They understand why you're feeling that way and won't lash out. Save your energy.
- do some soul searching on why you feel this fear. Remember that you also have a higher self, which is a part of you that is more connected to higher astral planes, that you can always call on in such circumstances. Best way to connect is through meditation. Put aside some 'me time' and meditate with a candle and soothing music before you go to sleep. INTENTION IS KEY. When you meditate, 'intend' to sleep in peace, visualise meeting your guide, visualise yourself being content. EVERY ACTION STARTS WITH A THOUGHT. Control your thoughts and you will control your actions.
- you have full ownership and control of your energies, your thoughts and your body. Choose to keep it that way. Do not allow fear to take over. The beings that you feel or see around you may be fragments of your imagination, or real. I don't know. But they are only able to get to you because you're 'unconsciously' allowing fear to take over. Again meditation would help you control fear. Shower yourself with protective light, magnificent bright white healing light that fills every cell in your body. Believe that you are protected from any low vibration energies. Know, intend, decide.... Take control. If you haven't done this before, go join a meditation class. It's fun, and you will meet likeminds.
- try to have a positive state of mind, always (easier said than done, but possible). Consciously stop and say thanks to the universe, whenever things work out for you, however small. Energy acts like magnet. Positive attracts more positive. Whatever state of mind you are, the universe gives you more of it.
- finally, food for thought "when the student is ready, the teacher will appear"

Hope this helps.
Venus  :-D

I love how positive you sound, unfortunately I don't agree on one point. I don't know if we have full control over our energy or our thoughts, but I do know we don't have control over our body, but that's not the point here, right? Because it all comes down to a thought. We can just pretend and act like we have control and it is enough for us? (hopefully this didn't sound like douchebagery, just think about it). You say everything starts with a thought? It's all we humans need. We need to THINK something is, even if it isn't. We need to BELIEVE something is, even if it's not. In other words, ignorance is our best friend. Problem starts when you can't be ignorant. When you can't think that something is, when you know it isn't. You can try and pretend all you want something is nice and shiny, sooner or later reality will slap you, and oh it slaps hard. It slaps you so hard you spin 360 around yourself. Why? Because thinking isn't enough. Because believing isn't enough. Because you are not enough. And no, I don't mean that as someone is dissatisfied with themselves. No. I think it of a way, you can't have control over anything, not even your own body, not even your damn mind, because the control lays in your surroundings. Now, that state of mind is not helping of course, but it is how it is. It's what I learned from my own experience over the years. Something really bad happened, fine, I can handle it. - (or so I thought). So I rebuild my life on spot. A week after another bad thing happens, crashing the very meaning of me. Fine, I can take that as well. So, once again I rebuild my life. But when it happened for the 3rd time, I hit me so hard for being ignorant fool I was, being naive to think something can just be solved, not even solved, something can be changed just from the way you stand. Just from the way you think or even face the problem (negative or positive) you can make a difference, truth is, you can't. You can't overcome problems by just using a positive approach or so called positive state of mind. Truth to be spoken, it doesn't even matter how you approach it, problem is the same and out of your control, the only thing different is you.

Now for that, I did some research on inner self. I came to some conclusions. Before I say what I conclude, I'll shortly describe what I did and how I decided what to "believe" or should I say, acknowledge as truth. I'm not religious but I do use it as a metaphor. I also use all religions and believes. I think everyone looking at the same picture gets different answers (perspectives) so in the end, it sounds as different things even they came from looking at the same thing. In addition to that I used famous personalities and their theories, specifically Sigmund Freud. In the end I used my own, what people refer to as intuition. It can be bad or good intuition, but it has never been wrong. I started with Om sign. There are 5 parts of the Om sign and I used 3 of them (so far). Conscious, unconscious and subconscious mind. Now, I won't go in very detail, but reading about Sigmund Freud theories on those subjects + personality ones, I never understood how come when I think of inner self, when I try to "feel" inner self I feel a different being. How come I don't think of it as me? Why is it not me? Why do I keep having this bad feeling in my chest I can't get rid of?

This is what it said about concious mind:
"The conscious mind includes such things as the sensations, perceptions, memories, feeling and fantasies inside of our current awareness. Closely allied with the conscious mind is the preconscious, which includes the things that we are not thinking of at the moment but which we can easily draw into conscious awareness."

And this is about unconscious:
"The unconscious contains all sorts of significant and disturbing material which we need to keep out of awareness because they are too threatening to acknowledge fully. So, the unconscious is not like a dust bin containing unimportant or irrelevant thoughts. Rather, it is precisely because they are so powerful that they are kept buried. Nevertheless, they exert a significant influence."

By using the logic above, the conscious mind is us. Like, literally me, this, here, right now. That's conscious mind. And the unconscious mind is my inner self. If I connect the bad feelings I have with it, the fears, the phobia, the anxiety, it makes perfect sense that's that. After all, that's what unconcious mind contains. Could I just barely managed to allow the leak of that unconscious mind and now I have this ugly gut sensation I just can't get rid of? Maybe, maybe not. So, I went little bit further and started reading from teist perspective of inner self. As I expected, it only had positive things to say about the inner self. It's your higher being, but reading between lines, in each article there was sentence or meaning like this:

"Remember to be aware of any discomfort you feel when you are working with your inner self. We cannot, and do not, take any responsibility for what you will actually experience because people are all so different. So monitor yourself. Stop if you feel any stress and, if necessary, seek professional help."

Why did I highlight this one? Because, everyone keeps associating your inner self with good, positive things. Something like what you would define as an angel. But it's not like that is it? Even if it's a "higher being" it doesn't mean it will be good. After all, I've just read all of my negative sh*t I buried lays there in real me. So, how come everyone is connecting inner self with good things and I feel totally different? I also remembered, of course, the opposite of good is bad, and opposite of "angel" is "demon", so the famous saying "face your demons" popped into my mind. Could it be that after you "face your demons" you meet your "inner self" or should I say, you become your inner self? Maybe that's why it feels like a stranger to me. But do we really wanna access that unconcious part of the mind? What I also read is that things that are in the unconscious mind are ONLY available to the conscious mind in disguised form. That the influence they have over conscious actions can be discovered by dream content. Now when I think about my dreams and their content, I'm not really all that positive. At the end of one article it asked this question: "Do you wanna be nice or do you wanna be whole? You decide." It just confirmed inner self is not all that shiny and nice as some describe it. Which again I can connect to that THINKING thing. People only need to THINK something is, BELIEVE something is (even if its not). By being ignorant they are helping themselves, and by reading about all those positive things that people forcefully connect with inner self, totally helps them. So, what about us that had stuff happening, bad stuff that are preventing us from being that ignorant? What do we do? How do we face our inner self?

I totally went off-topic!! Sorry ._. and thanks for the positive thoughts! It might not seem like it, but I appreciate them. :)

Venus_Goddess_of_Love

Hey, thanks for the response. We can definitely agree to disagree. I do not associate self belief with ignorance. I think we humans have immense potentials in creating our lives and co-creating our world. Just because we are not yet able to do it easily, or at all, doesn't mean the potential is not there.

Also, although Freud was a genius in his time, he didn't really get it all right. That's why his students, Carl Jung etc, left him to study humans as holistic beings, as clients, not as patients as Freud used to refer to them. He was a bit nuts actually. His ideas are not compatible with current thinking.

If you really want to find out about who or what you really are, ask yourself through meditation. The answer is inside you. Not out there. It's certainly interesting to read about and discuss others' views but YOUR truth is within you. (NB. There may be many routes to the truth, and they're not necessarily right or wrong. But some may be long routes, others short. You choose.)

All the best
Venus :-)
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi

Rakkso

QuoteBut it's not like that is it? Even if it's a "higher being" it doesn't mean it will be good. After all, I've just read all of my negative sh*t I buried lays there in real me. So, how come everyone is connecting inner self with good things and I feel totally different? I also remembered, of course, the opposite of good is bad, and opposite of "angel" is "demon", so the famous saying "face your demons" popped into my mind. Could it be that after you "face your demons" you meet your "inner self" or should I say, you become your inner self?

Choose carefully, we can see the outside, but not the inside, that's why have to quietly analyze and learn to discern.

You can face them, but to place a rash and crude example (please i do not mean to effend anyone this is just what ocurred to me) an example IMHO its like cheating on you wife (I'm not even married), you can love her and stil YOU let yourSELF fall into temptation (not trying to be religious here) and that will bring a chain reaction of events in wether you liked the experience and are willing to repeat it again or not.
You may repent and say i.e. I had these 2 pieces of pie, the one I have at home tastes more delicious than any other pie in the world and i need no more and I am an idiot for eating out of home, and you will have learned and thus continue with your happy life with the consequence of pain of the memory in your conscience which will make you be jelous and alterated easily (you sabotagged yourself) but hopefully overcome it.
Or you may do it again and lots of negative events trigger once you are caught, because everything surfaces in time. Which will then change your conscience and average thinking and you will corrupt yourself more unkowingly but willingly.

So, You can face them, whatever form they take, and control them, or let them control you.

Everything is cause and reaction, so choose carefully. Think long term too, its better.

But this is just me. :-)

IsayWhaat

I guess we all agree on that one thing. Whatever it is, noone will do it for you. You and only you can change things. But, change doesn't have to be good/positive thing. It can always be worse.

I would like to ask you Venus_Goddess_of_Love, if you have met your spirit guides, have you met the higher self as well?

Venus_Goddess_of_Love

Quote from: IsayWhaat on September 11, 2015, 04:19:56
I guess we all agree on that one thing. Whatever it is, noone will do it for you. You and only you can change things. But, change doesn't have to be good/positive thing. It can always be worse.

I would like to ask you Venus_Goddess_of_Love, if you have met your spirit guides, have you met the higher self as well?
Change is always good. If you have a good experience, great. If not, you learn from it and will know better next time.

I don't think one "meets" one's higher self. One merges. If you've had a full blown OBE, you'd know what I'm talking about. When I merged with my higher self in an OBE, I felt like I was a much bigger version of myself. Smarter, faster, wiser...  I knew things and places that I don't know in this life. But I knew that it was me. I think some people are able to do this when faced with imminent danger or when they reach a certain level of meditation.

Best,
Venus
"This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet." Rumi