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Trepkos

One thing i found out is that a sense of balance is a very hard thing to achieve when one's oscillating in high frequencies. I realize that equilibrium is just an ideal, meaning that it's just a thing to strive for, but a general sense of balance is important. At times it's very hard for me to maintain this sense of balance. For instance, paranoïa is an issue. I experience this phenomenon occasionally but my ratio explains the elements away fairly quickly after the occurance. Does this mean i'm in control and that it's just a side-effect of spiritual evolution?


Szaxx

Can you try to explain this differently. I'm unsure of your questions meaning.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Trepkos

Well, when i expressed an aspect of myself on whatever level, then a kind of uncertainty manifests. It appears to me that this uncertainty is based on a type of fear. The consequence of this fear is some connection that i make (or so it appears). For example, on a social level, when i have some deep thoughts and i express them to someone, afterwards i tend to become paranoïd. I know paranoïa is not well understood as for the cause of it in the consensus of psychiatry. The nature of my paranoïa is based on distortions that i perceive in verbal communication processes of other people. This goes together with synchronicity that manifests. It is as if i receive messages (through television or through the mind of other people) that are synchronized with the context of my expression. There seems to be some kind of telepathic connection with a collective being. It seems to me that i can read subconscious thoughts which people have about me or some theme (and this depends on the nature of the expressions that i make). Now, i meditate pretty well and i find myself in some deep trance, so i conclude from this that i advanced far on a spiritual level. However, i can't get used to the energy of this "paranoïa" (mind the quotation marks). Now my question; Does every master of meditation experience this kind of connection or paranoïa or however you want to call it? In question, "is" it paranoïa (a disease) or a connection with a collective subconsciousness when one has progressed far?

Szaxx

I can't say that I've noticed anything paranoid. I have answered questions before they were asked. I've also read the thoughts of others totally unknown to me.
It's not paranoia but it does seem imposing a little. I've done this on the Pulse too.
The only comment made is how did you know, I have no answer barring 'I simply do'.
If that doesn't make someone paranoid, it must be that far more is in the unseen workings of the mind than can be accepted.
Close your eyes to see far more has a latent message for those who know.
You may be on track to develop this further. If you specialise in one colour you'll not see the whole.
Think about this for a while and you should understand once it clicks into place.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Xanth

Quote from: Trepkos on July 03, 2015, 15:50:54
Well, when i expressed an aspect of myself on whatever level, then a kind of uncertainty manifests. It appears to me that this uncertainty is based on a type of fear. The consequence of this fear is some connection that i make (or so it appears). For example, on a social level, when i have some deep thoughts and i express them to someone, afterwards i tend to become paranoïd. I know paranoïa is not well understood as for the cause of it in the consensus of psychiatry. The nature of my paranoïa is based on distortions that i perceive in verbal communication processes of other people. This goes together with synchronicity that manifests. It is as if i receive messages (through television or through the mind of other people) that are synchronized with the context of my expression. There seems to be some kind of telepathic connection with a collective being. It seems to me that i can read subconscious thoughts which people have about me or some theme (and this depends on the nature of the expressions that i make). Now, i meditate pretty well and i find myself in some deep trance, so i conclude from this that i advanced far on a spiritual level. However, i can't get used to the energy of this "paranoïa" (mind the quotation marks). Now my question; Does every master of meditation experience this kind of connection or paranoïa or however you want to call it? In question, "is" it paranoïa (a disease) or a connection with a collective subconsciousness when one has progressed far?
You're a fearful one... aren't you?  :)

How about instead of being paranoid of "what if...", you simply accept "what is..." and allow it to be as it is.

Trepkos

Quote from: Xanth on July 26, 2015, 20:35:00
You're a fearful one... aren't you?  :) How about instead of being paranoid of "what if...", you simply accept "what is..." and allow it to be as it is.

I'm not that fearful you know... :-D The link between the two concepts of paranoïa and fear is an artificial one, as are all connections. You happen to see this link because you want to help people. By the way, the connection is firmly established in psychiatry, where proponents usually dismiss anomalies. An anomaly would be like, say, a paranoïd shaman. All shamans are paranoïd, but not all paranoïds are shamans. My point is that the artificial connection can be broken, in which case there is a detached awareness experiencing or observing paranoïa from a distance, placing it into a positive context. This means that there can be no fear, because if there were, then one would be paranoïd.

Kzaal

I'll go with szaxx on this one and also I'd like to add that it's not uncommon at all.
For exemple I do it all the time, I don't only know what the person will say by their intonation in the voice but with their body language.
I know when someone feel stressed and their level of stress by looking at them and their gestures.
It's both telepathy and reading the signs and body language. Their intonation can explain a lot of things.
And often, people who have all the qualities for spirituality will have no problem knowing when something is wrong because they feel it.
You know it also with life experience. You've been in a situation and you know where that situation is going.
That balance is also very important to notice because when you know how the balance works you'll know where things are going.
You need to deal with the paranoid factor tho. Because it can have a huge effect on your social life.
Even if you know that the person in front of you is telling himself that you're annoying or that they simply don't believe what you're saying you should either just calm down and stop talking about the current subject or change the subject completely. (Let them do the talking).
Don't judge them for judging you, everyone does it, we look at people and judge them on what they're saying all the time (It's also important to train your mind not to judge as much also).
Also this is very common that people will notice that you read their thoughts and you know what they're thinking making them uneasy and making the situation very awkward. Simple solution. Don't read their mind unless that you feel they don't mind.
With time, I've found out that telepathy isn't as useful as I thought it was.
Most discussions I have with people are brief because I already know the issue or they'll tell me straight away.
I'm the type of person who'd rather sit down somewhere, read a book and let the people who really want to talk to me do so.
If that person don't mind, because... My aura and my vibration are much different than most people. Which some can easily see or feel, then most people tend to go on if they are not sure they want to talk to me.
Which is perfectly fine. Because I can read them too and when someone with a low vibration approach me they don't like it.
They know that they're going in a bad direction.
Sometimes I even send telepathic message and they're standing there and looking around to see where it comes from.
You can see/feel people when they're not on the right path.
This is another good way to help people tho.
But when you do this, you have to let aside your ego and everything that is concerning you. You have to do it for others...

But yeah! Don't worry too much about it, deal with the paranoia and eventually you won't even think about it.
Telepathy is not like other things. You can't really tell someone you're telepathic, and they can't really tell you either unless you both agree which in that case the situation can be very funny and you guys end up being good friends.
Lots of times I've met people who'd we start to discuss and we think exactly the same thing and look at each other with that little smile which means everything. You don't even have to say it out loud. You'll both know it.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Trepkos

Quote from: Kzaal on August 26, 2015, 16:19:20
It's both telepathy and reading the signs and body language.

Yes, and telepathy is also more subtle, because it can affect people at a great distance.

Quote from: Kzaal on August 26, 2015, 16:19:20You need to deal with the paranoid factor tho. Because it can have a huge effect on your social life.

I know, something spiritual always has an effect on the social life. :-D

Quote from: Kzaal on August 26, 2015, 16:19:20With time, I've found out that telepathy isn't as useful as I thought it was.

How's that?

Quote from: Kzaal on August 26, 2015, 16:19:20Most discussions I have with people are brief because I already know the issue or they'll tell me straight away.

So it also has an impact on your social life. When things are brief, there isn't much social interaction. But yes, i know the feeling. It's the energy. Our group (the "spiritual" one) is much different than the majority of groups on this planet. So then it follows that the "judging energy" is much more intense.

I liked your post. Good energy :-D

Kzaal

Quote from: Trepkos on August 26, 2015, 17:08:46

With time, I've found out that telepathy isn't as useful as I thought it was.
How's that?


When I started, I imagined big things, very useful stuff.
It actually first happened to me when I was at a party. I was asking myself some questions in my head then (back then I was kinda messed up and yeah..), I was watching hot girls and telling myself we should have sex and everything. Eventually making this idea even more and more intense and everything I could see the girl was starting to watch me and bitting lips etc...
One of my friend (the host) kept going left and right behind me being really angry and talking to himself exactly as if he was talking directly to me but without watching me.
Everything I'd try to communicate to these girls he'd yell at no one like: -GO FOR IT! or MAN! I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! WHAT ARE YOU DOING! GO! OR I'LL GIVE YOU SOME PROTECTION! etc...
Every single time I'd finish communicating some sexual thoughts to these girls I'd get an answer from him.
Back then I was using a lot of heavy drugs and my senses and spiritual abilities seemed much more accurate and stronger. (it wasn't good in some ways because I was addicted and paranoia kicked in etc.)
But yeah, I thought in the beginning that I could do it easy with girls just by doing this (which obviously isn't the case, altho I could've done it...)
Also my intentions weren't good. And well that's why you should always have good intentions when you do stuff like this.
But, I don't regularly use telepathy anymore, I prefer going with the feeling I get from the person than trying to change their way of thinking or invading their privacy in some ways...
Telepathy isn't bad if it's used correctly. But there's not that many use to it. You can get to know someone much faster and better by doing it if they don't mind tho. As long as you stay opened for them to also read their thoughts otherwise they'll feel like you're hiding something.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Trepkos


Kzaal

The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.