anti-Christs already here

[Made O pHI]

While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. (1Thessalonians 5:3)
And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. (Daniel 8:25)

Who here has read The Bible ? It's just a question for myself to see how many people have, I myself have only read up to chapter 2 of Genesis.
Who here believes in all the New Age mumbo jumbo ? This too is just a question for my own observations.

If you don't want to read the paragraphs skip to the bottom for the main point, the paragraphs are just there to help the ones that don't already know and are being mislead by the ones claiming to be "good" and the ones playing the "evil" part.

I grew up in a nice city of Wisconsin, lived a great childhood with much leeway given by my mother. I was never really a believer in God, not yet at least, although we did start going to church with my Aunts, Uncles, and cousins. I didn't really know what to believe in. I just knew I was enjoy my life, carefree while I was young. Not to mention I was always pretty good with sensing things (others emotions and things like that), but I guess that was because I was not yet tainted with lies from the antichrist. Then we began moving due to my step dad joining active duty. I soon end up in my current state of Texas, I personally think it's great seeing that this is the biggest city I've lived in and it's the 2nd safest city in the world yet we are right next to the worlds most dangerous city. How ironic right. I'm 18 now, starting college at the end of the month and just got my first job. And I'll say I was very picky at what kind of job I wanted, I wanted a job I'd enjoy and guess what. I get to work as event staff at the main university in my city ! I feel like my life is just beginning finally ! The way I want

Now to begin. After I met these two brothers that showed themselves to be my friend, I've been struggling, for the real reason has just became clear to me, to find the truth.  They were the EXACT opposite tho, at least this is how they want to portray themselves. The oldest one portrayed himself as trying to help me and gave me little "hints and tips to life" while the younger one portrayed himself just as my friend but said he didn't believe in the Illuminati or any of that, yet he was the one that asked me if I knew what the Illuminati was. From day one when I met them and walked into their house I felt like something was weird, a weird presence or something but I just left it at that. This is when my so called, 'spiritual journey', began. They told me stories of how the people in Arabia (the UAE) would levitate and how they where really thousands of years old because they found the fountain of youth with their father when they were young. I was kind of startled by the thousands of years old thing because right before they said that they told me they were part of the ILLUMINATI, which at that time I had no idea what that was, I just knew it wasn't something good. This is when it all went downhill. The oldest one told me about the Law of Attraction. I went home and researched, looked up the Illuminati, read about how we "create our own reality", and many other things. It's funny because I learned everything I needed to know when I first researched but I wasn't satisfied, I continued searching and looking for things and answers. I even seen the LOA work right in front of my eyes and I still wasn't satisfied. That's when I started losing myself within doing the "right" thing.

One of the first things I learned was that nothing was good or bad, and that we must get this out of our heads. Even The Bible says, ALL things are good if used in moderation. Meaning that nothing is bad but can be used for our enjoyment if that's what YOU enjoy. We are all different, we enjoy different things, but the one thing that unites us is the GOD, the Christ, within us. The second thing was to balance these forces within us. (good and evil)

Remember this while your reading and thinking about the things you like doing in life:All things done in moderation are okay.

The main point:
Now that I look at all this I laugh, it's hilarious that I almost fell into this trap and lost my soul due to my own ignorance of believing and being lead by these 2 brothers. I see now that a lot of this New Age is distorted to the max. It has people believing that you need to stop doing things you enjoy because you want to catch that wave and ascend to the next level before the gateway closes at the end of the year. This is bologna ! The anti-Christs have distorted the truth and a lot of us have feel for it, I myself was getting close to my end due to believing that bogus. The anti-Christ HAS already came, has been here for a long time. Ever since the New Age truth broke through the surface the last 2 anti-Christs (as said in The Bible there was a 7 headed beast that arose from the water and 2 were yet to come) have been here distorting the New Age truth to the FULLEST in their attempt to capture your soul while you are blinded by their lies. I believe these anti-Christs have came in the form of someone "good" (the older brother) and someone "bad" (the one that was slightly younger then the older one). They're here in their LAST attempt to get us to fall and change our morals and perspective of life into something else and force us to create resistance within ourselves and make us believe their truths, not Gods truths. Gods truth is not to live in complete good, or complete evil. It's to balance these forces within you and only then will you live in peace. The anti-Christs truth is that you can't be good (love) if your doing something evil (bad). So they tell you to lean towards one side and that's the exact thing that destroys you, inside out.

God wants us to ENJOY life our way, through free will. Do what YOU want to do, but always remember do it in moderation. Don't become so indulged in whatever it is you do that you lose your grasp on life and begin to fall for the lies. And that includes meditation and anything you might consider "spiritual". I think the word 'spiritual' has become distorted so much over the past years. You don't have to do anything to be 'spiritual', you already are spiritual as long as your enjoying your life and expressing the God within you through love and happiness.

I wonder how many people are believing in the anti-Christs New Age bologna or are actually on the true spiritual path of God's New Age truth.

All comments and criticism are appreciated, and thanked in advance.

Best regards. pHI   

This is not to teach anyone anything, I don't want to teach anyone anything. This is MY view and it feels to be right for ME, the goal is to help YOU find YOUR view and what you feel right with !

[Bedeekin]

wow.

[Made O pHI]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by '"wow" ?

[Karas]

There're about 38,000 anti-christ now days who call themselves christains. To be an anti-Christ is to reject the teachings of Jesus and follow every rebelious Satan (adversary of God).


Jesus taught to follow the Torah taught by Jews.

The experts in the law and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat. Therefore pay attention to what they tell you and do it. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach. (Matthew 23:2, 3 NET)

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have not come to abolish these things but to fulfill them. So anyone who breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever obeys them and teaches others to do so will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall not all enter into the kingdom of heaven."(Matthew 5:17-20)

How can your piety exceed the Pharisees' unless you keep the laws and the commandments?

I find it hilarious when Jesus said he will confront theses anti-Christ and reject them. 

Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter into the kingdom of heaven – only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. On that day, many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?' Then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!' (Matthew 7:21-23)

dam law breakers >_<!

So yea ^^ the anti-Christ has been around for over 2,000 years now and they are still misleading people. 
 

[LightBeam]

"The Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Messiah.  (1 John 2:22)"
I guess I have one of the characteristics of the antichrist lol, since I don't believe that Jesus is God, nor that he is the only way to heaven, etc. If we follow that logic, all my OBEs should have been in a place described as hell (from the Bible). And yet, I have been to the most amazing worlds with magnificent beauty and incredible sense of love and harmony, that to me were the closest to heaven I have ever experienced.

Point being, the Bible itself is misleading, and religion in general is limiting one's spiritual development. The Bible was written by men according to their own understanding of God and they had to dress him in human form, because they were not evolved enough to comprehend the true concept of God, the multidimensional universe and its complexity. The moral values in the Bible are just human values that every human being should possess naturally. Nothing new or revolutionary. If you need religion to be a good person, then you are not a good person by nature.

New Age has its weirdness, just like any theory which tries to search for spiritual answers. But this is how we slowly progress, by searching, trying, experiencing and analyzing. And we may not even find the ultimate truth while here. This world was designed to be closed from the wider reality. And in this closed environment everyone who opposes our own understanding will be perceived as an anti type.

Just go with your instincts and it's ok later in life to change your beliefs. It is perfectly normal. I believe I will change my perspective when it's time for my physical body to be discarded and I move with my full consciousness to the other side. And even then, I believe the journey will continue on some other level.

[Karas]

In the Hebrew scriptures the word Messiah is giving to 3 classes: prophet, king and a priest. And what the Greek scriptures are saying is that anyone who doesn't believe Jesus is one of God's annoited one will be the anti-Christ.
I like how people misunderstood the hole Satan thing too =p when a Christain do there finger pointing and call people Satanist, what they don't understand is that in the Abrahamic context a Satanist is anyone who is against God and his prophets. So an atheist is a Satanist =p

Jesus never claim to be God and always taught his followers to worship God and to keep the Torah (which no christain followers anymore: anti-christ) it seems now days people just take things out of context to make it suit there own personal belief of who Jesus is and what Satan and anti-christ means.     

[Made O pHI]

The experts in the law and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat. Therefore pay attention to what they tell you and do it. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they teach.

This is an excellent example of what I'm saying. Jesus and Buddah (I'll just say the two I'm most familiar with) taught us to live by love. But Jesus practiced (if this is what you want to call it) becoming eternal by dying for US, while Buddah practiced becoming eternal through meditation and stillness or just being.

Just go with your instincts and it’s ok later in life to change your beliefs. It is perfectly normal. I believe I will change my perspective when it’s time for my physical body to be discarded and I move with my full consciousness to the other side. And even then, I believe the journey will continue on some other level.

My ideas and beliefs have already been changing rapidly, I too believed the journey will continue on another level after my physical body is discarded. But have you ever thought that you could continue your journey on ALL levels, and still be fully aware in each of these levels. Jehovah works in mysterious, and miraculous ways. 

Lol, and its kind of ironic how there's 2 people who's comments leave a certain vibe to them now that I think about it. But I won't point fingers. Lets just say they got that good vibe bad vibe going. Just as I was talking about. 

Love, pHI

[Lionheart]

 Tonight on Coast to Coast AM there was some "nutcase" preaching that the Antichrist is the new Pope. He had all kinds of Biblical jargon to back him up. He said the Apocalypse was coming and the new Pope will lead. I certainly am glad I never bought into all that Religious garbage in my upbringing. Fear, fear and more fear, that's all they spread. Of course it ended up with arguing and anger when people got a chance to finally call in to the show.  

[Bedeekin]

Religious discussion... especially when fringe christianity is involved tends to become a slinging match and a cacophony of over-interpreted bible quotes.

[Karas]

Tonight on Coast to Coast AM there was some "nutcase" preaching that the Antichrist is the new Pope. He had all kinds of Biblical jargon to back him up. He said the Apocalypse was coming and the new Pope will lead. I certainly am glad I never bought into all that Religious garbage in my upbringing. Fear, fear and more fear, that's all they spread. Of course it ended up with arguing and anger when people got a chance to call to call in to the show.  

Lol so now the pope is the bad guy the seventh day advantist and jehovah's wittness (in there early days) taught that the pope was archangel michael =p

Michael is the Pope

Just one such example of changing Russell's understanding is found at Rev. 12:7 where a war in heaven occurs between Michael and his angels and the dragon and his angels. This verse reads:

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels.
C. T. Russell taught the identity of Michael to be "the Pope" (p. 188).

What a shock this has to be to the JW in our day, who teaches that Michael there is Jesus. Is Michael the Pope or Jesus? With only those two choices, both views are wrong, since the Lord Jesus is not Michael the archangel nor is Michael the archangel the pope. (The truth is, the real Jesus of the Bible created Michael the archangel and Jesus is not an angel.)

Russell also revealed the identity of the dragon in Rev. 12:7 to be Imperial Rome (p. 188), instead of the devil or Satan, as the Bible clearly identifies the dragon to be. Please note Rev. 12:7-9 which reveals the real identity of the dragon to be the devil:

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him (Rev 12:7-9).

A more modern version renders the same passage this way:

And there was war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. (Rev 12:7-9)

So again, how could the JWs of our day oppose Russell's teaching about Michael at Rev. 12:7 when the aforementioned, ultra-exalting appraisals of him have been boldly published by them? That, in itself, is a contradiction. Besides that, even more incomparable praises have been declared for Russell:

Many Christian ministers have had glimpses of the Word of God, knowledge of some details of the Plan, some measure of the Holy Spirit; but to Pastor Russell, God's messenger to the last stage of the Church, was given a super-abundance of gifts, to set the things of God in order (Isa. 44:7), to proclaim as harmonious understanding of all the Divine purposes for mankind and of some for the angels. (Eph. 3:10.) He heard the full harmony of "the song of Moses and the Lamb." (Rev. 15:3.) To him the wings (Rev. 12:4), the Word of God, Old Testament and New, sounded their Glad Tidings, a message whose parts "touched one another," were in complete touch, full harmony. He heard for the first time since Apostolic days the Plan of God, "the noise of the wheels [cycles, ages]." He heard the manifestations of the operation of the Holy Spirit, the "noise of a great rushing," and was filled with the Spirit in a measure beyond the portion of most Christian men (p. 385).

Pastor Russell was given a clear, beautiful, complete comprehension of the Plan of God as revealed in the Tabernacle arrangements and sacrifices (p. 235).

http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/finishedmystery.htm

You know, once you studie all scriptures around the world you can clearly see what the true message is. I'll show it through scripture:

The expert answered, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and love your neighbor as yourself." Jesus said to him, "You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live." Luke 10:27, 28

"Those who believe (in the Qur-ān),
And those who follow the Jewish (scriptures),
And the Christians and the Sabians,—
Any who believe in God
And the Last Day,
And work righteousness,
Shall have their reward
With their Lord: on them
Shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."
[Quran 2:62]

Say: O People of the Book (Torah & Gospel)! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for lords beside Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto Him)." [Quran, 3:64]

so simple right? So why do theses Christains focus on things that arnt importent? In the abrahamic world the request from God is to worship him and him alone. So simple >_>

[Volgerle]

"The Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Messiah.  (1 John 2:22)"

After this 'definition' the majority of humans on this Earth now is are 'antichrists'. 

Why attach "literal" value to any scriptures at all? It does not make ANY sense to do so. It's just stuff written down by human beings ages ago. Comparing them (and doing this even as here from stuff posted on evangelical (!!) websites) amongst each other to find 'similarities' (which are over-constructed and over-interpreted anyway) does not add to its validity.

Yes, the scriptures do contain value with regard to mystic / esoteric knowledge. But everything that tries to manipulate you with fundamentalism / literalism and fear and every quote that warns you off not to follow any 'other gods' than the ones 'prescribed' in the scripture should get you thinking (instead of blindly following) in the first place.

And see what happens, even here ... if we do not agree to this literalism here, then the usual pattern follows: we get insulted because we are 'unbelievers' and thus we are are bad, we spread 'bad vibes' (see above) or similar. And just because of being positive and not swallowing any of this anti-christ crap.

Come on people, please get back on the ground again and stop spreading any FEAR-based BELIEFS here. And stop getting personal or be insulting! This place used to be a good one for open-minded and gentle people. Not for close-minded religious fear-mongery. What happened here now? This is frustrating.

[Bedeekin]

Hear hear!

Can you elaborate on what you mean by '"wow" ?

I was surprised to see this sort of stuff been talked about on a forum that discusses reality.

[Xanth]

Oh I'm working towards having this particular sub forum removed.   It causes more harm than good here.

[Made O pHI]

Come on people, please get back on the ground again and stop spreading any FEAR-based BELIEFS here.

This post was not made out of fear, lol. 
Far from it actually, I could say the opposite.
I don't believe in religion. But I do know that The Bible's scriptures are there for a reason, and not just some bs because it was written by man. Man should be your brother so why would you believe he's trying to write you lies ? After all I'm sure they were way more spiritual when The Bible was written. Seeing how all this technology has us brainwashed to some degree.

After this 'definition' the majority of humans on this Earth now is are 'antichrists'.

That's a good thing, for all of humanity. I'm glad that the majority of people are antichrists. Those will be the people who will be destroying themselves and leaving the few million(s) on Earth to repopulate it will be a good thing for humanity. Heaven on Earth shall be at last.

The antichrist is doing a great job of disguising himself I see to have the majority of Earth following his New Age bs thinking it's God's teachings. He deserves a round of applause

[Xanth]

Dude, that post you made reeks of fear...

This is why this subforum has to go.

[Made O pHI]

Lol, how can someone tell me what I was feeling when I made the post?
Maybe take a look at yourself and this post is putting fear within yourselves.
Don't try putting your fear onto someone else.

I once heard that we should pay attention to what we try to put on other people or try to say about someone else because a lot of the times it's really something that you yourself has problems with and needs help getting over.

It's funny how just because you have astral experiences often you think you must be progressing spiritually. Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, if you were really in-tune and connected with God you wouldn't need to induce or have many of these experiences because your already connected with God, enjoying and letting God express him self through you, in the physical realms. Maybe all of you who are having many OBEs are actually losing touch with God, so God is showing you all this hoping you will come back to his side before you lose him. If something keeps occurring in your life a lot, you OBVIOUSLY aren't getting the deeper message of what's trying to be brought to you. So it keeps returning in hopes of you learning the deeper message but the anti Christ has diluted many of us so much with his false New Age teachings that your to blind to see this deeper meaning. Then your over here thinking your progressing spiritually just because your experiencing these OBEs when in reality, your not progressing any. Your only falling deeper into the realm of Illusion.

Much love, pHI.
(if you think this post was made from fear too, I guess in a manner you could say it was. But this fear only comes out of unconditional love for all of you to see the true reality.)

[Lionheart]

It's funny how just because you have astral experiences often you think you must be progressing spiritually. Has anyone thought that maybe, just maybe, if you were really in-tune and connected with God you wouldn't need to induce or have many of these experiences because your already connected with God, enjoying and letting God express him self through you, in the physical realms. Maybe all of you who are having many OBEs are actually losing touch with God, so God is showing you all this hoping you will come back to his side before you lose him. If something keeps occurring in your life a lot, you OBVIOUSLY aren't getting the deeper message of what's trying to be brought to you. So it keeps returning in hopes of you learning the deeper message but the anti Christ has diluted many of us so much with his false New Age teachings that your to blind to see this deeper meaning. Then your over here thinking your progressing spiritually just because your experiencing these OBEs when in reality, your not progressing any. Your only falling deeper into the realm of Illusion.

First off, look at the Title of your post here. Is that supposed to make people happy? Think about it.
This quote shows me that you don't wish to practice OBE any more. It sounds like you have talked yourself completely out of it and that's your choice. We don't try to force or brainwash anyone here to AP. We are here just to aid in experiencing it. AP is about awakening to your own realities. We don't preach our Religious beliefs here and don't wish to be preached to as well.
After this post of yours, I don't see why you are even attempting to AP yourself. It sounds to me like you have all your answers already.
Thank you! 

[Bedeekin]

I once heard that we should pay attention to what we try to put on other people or try to say about someone else because a lot of the times it's really something that you yourself has problems with and needs help getting over.

Maybe practice what you are preaching Made O pHI.

Don't try and put anything on anybody.

Why are you trying to push your reality onto everyone else?

Just let people get on with their own lives and leave them to make their own choices.. not giving them a movie script to base their thoughts and actions around.

People come here to talk and learn about OOBEs and consciousness.. not the devil.

[Made O pHI]

This quote shows me that you don't wish to practice OBE any more. It sounds like you have talked yourself completely out of it and that's your choice

Ohhh no no no, don't put words in my mouth 
I may not practice trying to induce an OBE every night to "sharpen" my skills of OBE because this is natural for me, as it should be for all. All I need is a simple sentence and I can induce one. And sorry for "preaching" my "religious" beliefs, but I am in no way religious. I just believe in God and the power of God.

Maybe practice what you are preaching Made O pHI.

Don't try and put anything on anybody.

Why are you trying to push your reality onto everyone else?

Just let people get on with their own lives and leave them to make their own choices.. not giving them a movie script to base their thoughts and actions around.

People come here to talk and learn about OOBEs and consciousness.. not the devil.

All I simply did was make a post, to see what people thought on this. I didn't FORCE my beliefs on anyone, it was YOUR choice to read my post. Its YOUR choice to believe or even have a little thought that something I'm saying might be true. And then every, all but one, goes about bashing on me because my view is different ? This is what God told me would happen. "They'll bash and think your crazy because your view is different." I think maybe your trying to force this on yourself but are scared because your view is already set.

But okay, people are here to learn about OBE. You can't OBE if your not aware of your own daily life. Once we start increasing our awareness in our daily lives then our awareness in our dreams will increase, and lets not forget a dream is an OBE. After that all you need is an affirmation to help you get out and project and walahh, your having an induced OBE. I can induce an OBE whenever I choose to, but I don't feel the need to induce them often (maybe 1 time a week) because I'm already enjoying and loving myself, my life, and everyone in my life.

[Bedeekin]

I know you are... but it is putting a religious aspect on something that for many here is... sort of way off the motive and subject matter.

I'm sure it's not your personal belief that is on trial... just the subject. It impresses a form to what is a raw consciousness, that already builds its understanding of the world on what it believes is real.

It's the colour of arcane christianity that irks me.. not the message it I hope christianity tries to put out... to just fricken love each other... The message doesn't need evil anymore... we have grown up. We no longer need black and white training wheels to understand what good and bad is. You don't.

The monster no longer lives beneath the bed.... in this reality that is. 

[Made O pHI]

...to just fricken love each other... The message doesn't need evil anymore... we have grown up.

Now this is all that needed to be said, cuz I totally agree with that.
Although how many people just got their panties in a bunch over a simple little post ?
Bashing on someone doesn't seem very grown up.
Your last comment was the most grown up comment I've read out of all these comments.

[Xanth]

Now this is all that needed to be said, cuz I totally agree with that.
Although how many people just got their panties in a bunch over a simple little post ?
Bashing on someone doesn't seem very grown up.
Your last comment was the most grown up comment I've read out of all these comments.

First, you misinterpreted my post above.  I didn't mean that YOU had fear.

I meant that you're attempting to illicit fear through your posts.

Why not focus upon the better things in life, instead of focusing upon the negative?